Thread: Spielman wants to trade 3rd
03-01-2012, 05:32 AM #11
Agree with me or not, he has two line positions to address. LT and DT. He could move down and address both by taking Reilly Reiff (as the mountain man says) and then use a couple of his newly acquired picks to move back into the first to get a Ta'amu or Brockers and still get a good WR in the second.
Problem is, no one wants to move up to 3 anymore now that the Rams are openly shopping their pick. Only way RGIII doesn't go 2 is if their asking price is to high and all the teams that are thinking about it fix their QB problems with Peyton and Flynn.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-01-2012, 08:44 AM #12
I would say take a chance on him in round 3 or 4.
There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
03-02-2012, 04:14 AM #13
The next team inline for one of these 2 is possibly TN or even the Bengals after them. Poe or Brockers (whoever is left) will go there.
On a side note, not sure why you have Ta'amu rated so low. I watched him in the Senior Bowl and he did exactly what you said he can't do.
On one play he took 2 OLmen straight back to the QB and sacked him. On a another he broke the double and almost ran the QB down.
The only hack on him that I've read is he has short arms and hasn't really developed anything other than a bull rush and is just starting to use a swim move.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-02-2012, 09:17 AM #14
Stay put and draft Matt kalil. There is no reason to not take the gift that is given to you.
I don't understand how anyone would want to trade back and draft a left tackle that is more of a run blocker than a pass blocker. It makes no sense after watching our quarterbacks get killed two years in a row.
But for some reason I have this bad feeling the Vikes will be stupid and we will lose out on the best tackle in the draft.
03-03-2012, 02:53 AM #15
Let me throw a couple of scenario's at you to see what you think........
Using the following as a starting point.... Luck and RGIII are gone. That leaves Kahlil, Blackmon, Clairborne, Richardson, Reif, Coples, Tannehill on the board at 3.
I've heard alot of talk about Coples as the next stud that people will want to trade for and the teams that want him are Bucs, Jags, Pathers, Bills. If the Bucs want to move up to 3 to get him preventing one of the lower teams (Jags, Pathers, Bills) from coming up and getting him would you do it if the draft followed this way?
Browns don't need a LT, they would go after the top WR so that Flynn will have another prime target so both Kahlil and Reif would still be there.
Heck, we could even think about trading down again if someone wanted to go after Tannehill. Wildcard in that one is do the Browns land Flynn? If they don't, do they take Tannehill at 4? Lets, for this drill say that they go with Blackmon at 4 and the Phins don't land Manning and look to go after Tannehill.
IMHO, Reiff wouldn't be a bad selection there. One could also look at Poe or Brockers at DT, Floyd at WR, Kirkpatrick at CB or even a Kuechly to QB our defense for a heck of alot of years, not to mention that you would have picked up several other picks by making one or both of those trades and could afford to move back into not only the bottom of the first, but the second round as well to add two more 2nd rounders and 2 more 3rd rounders.
1. Colts - Luck
2. Readskins - RGIII
3. Bucs - Coples
4. Browns - Blackmon
5. Phins - Tannehill
6. Rams - Hahlil
7. Jags - Clairborne
8. Vikes - Reiff
Last edited by Marrdro; 03-03-2012 at 02:57 AM.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-03-2012, 04:17 AM #16
If Kalil is there at 3, and we trade.. I officially give up with this FO.
03-03-2012, 09:24 AM #17
A left tackle isnt a sexy pick but its a pick you just have to take, just like Cleveland did with Thomas and the Dolphins did with Long.
03-04-2012, 12:18 PM #18Asst. Coach
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I hope we don't screw this up. Kalil should be the pick. We have to protect our QB and haven't been able to for quite a while. Take Kalil he can run and pass block. We need both of those skills for Ponder to have a chance.
03-06-2012, 08:23 AM #19
I am still 100% convinced that even though the OL is important, we can fix alot of our "Blocking" issues by just adding a couple of good WR's, that would allow Ponder more options/targets when it comes to getting it out on a 3 or 5 step drop.
Percy is great, but he can't do it alone. Adding a Blackmon and a vet WR like Garcon automatically makes your OL better without even adding a OLmen.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-06-2012, 08:25 AM #20