03-20-2012, 12:44 PM #11Ring of Fame
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03-20-2012, 12:53 PM #12Ring of Fame
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You have to take Khalil.. if you overdraft a qb and have a blue chip prospect sitting there at #3 you take him... not because he is that good, but bc you protect your other two biggest investments... AP and Ponder....
I'm not mad at the claiborne pick, but yu can't take a CB over a LT even when both are in need... Besides are Secondary is soo far off i doubt he makes a difference... and we've neglected the OLine since childress was a rookie head coach....
If we had claimed Jared Gaither off waivers last year and re-signed him.. then fine but not now...
Additionally and more importantly, we don't need elite corners to play the cover-2 defense... we can find serviceable cb's later on in the draft...
WAIT... scratch that... a competent GM could find value at cb in the later rounds...
basically, outside of our first 2 picks... we have no hope...lol....
I understand the average rubes desire to draft a top LT. Heck, I have been after the team to upgrade the OL myself for as long as anyone. But in this draft at this spot Claiborne is the best player for us to take. And he is the best defensive player on the board.
We had a historically bad secondary last season and the defense was limited by the team not having the talent to play man coverage when the offense we faced dictated we needed to. Frazier has also stated that they want to run less zone and more man defense this year. There is no player we can take in the draft that will be a better man coverage CB than Claiborne and there is no CB in FA that fits into our budget that can do what he will be able to do.
Yes, having an elite LT would be nice, but if you look at our division we really don't have any young, elite RDE's that even call for a player like Kalil to go against. The best RDE in the division is on our team and while Peppers is a great RDE he is getting up there in age as is Vanden Bosch. The packers RDE is probably the weak link on their line and between the Lions and Packers we will see more pressure from center to the right side of our line than center left.
However, looking at the division we face 3 elite QB's and 3 very good to elite WR groups with the addition of Marshall in Chicago. There is no way we can improve our team than to bring in an elite CB that can lock down a guy like Marshall or Johnson or Cobb/Nelson and make them irrelevant.
Giving the offense more turnovers and better field position will also help Ponder and the offense more than having an elite LT will. And Claiborne can also return punts which can give the offense better field position and limit the pressure defenses can apply which will help Ponder also.
So in the end i am strongly in favor of drafting Claiborne if we stay at 3. ( I would prefer us to trade back and get extra picks personally) I want a better LT but I am not convinced we cannot get a LT that can do the job unless we draft one in the top 3. I think Martin can be the answer and he may slip to the late 1st or early second.
03-20-2012, 08:59 PM #16
03-21-2012, 12:59 AM #17
Frazier has already come out and said that they plan to play more man coverage packages if they can get the players to run it.
Incidentally, if anyone cares to go back and look at the defense that Claiborne actually played in at LSU you would see that he played a great deal of zone coverage and he did extremely well when he was in it.
The idea that he cannot be used in zone is a myth and a misrepresentation. The reason we sucked in zone is because the CB's lacked the footwork and closing speed to shrink the size of the zones the WR's operated in. With his speed and ability the zones are going to be much smaller and lead to a lower completion percentage and higher rate of turnovers because the QB's margin for error is lower.
03-21-2012, 08:02 AM #19
03-21-2012, 10:09 AM #20
Relies too much on athleticism
Poor tackling technique
A bit undersized at 5-foot-11, 188 pounds
Struggles in zone coverage
Gambles too much
Tends to get lazy in his technique and cannot allow that to happen in the NFL, where competition is playing at a higher level - high backpedal, sloppy footwork at times
Doesn't usually get a good jam at the line - may have problems against physical NFL receivers
Read more: 2012 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU :: KFFL - Article
But take Kalil