06-26-2012, 07:56 PM #121
You take a month to respond and then talk about all the people who think that Whinny and K-dubb are "the greatest."
Who? Seriously ... Who are the "alot of people?"
And I still stand by the teams I listed. Toby is not true starter material in this league. He MAYBE could be a 1,000 yard back. He is a very solid No. 2 and I think a ton of teams would welcome him in that role. But he would not have an expanded presence in most other offenses.
06-28-2012, 08:06 AM #122
Again, back to Toby, it is going to be fun to pull this thread back up and for 2 reasons...
1. To see how a 3rd year back is doing in an expanded role. Anyone who thinks AD is going to come back and be 100% this year is crazy, so Toby's role will expand.
2. to see how a few of these other backs are doing.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-05-2012, 10:56 AM #123
He does not seem to be as effective coming in for a snap here and a snap there. It may just be my conception of what is happening, but that is what I see. I thought he did a great job last year when called upon to be the main back for us. I just don't think he is as good as a backup RB.Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.
07-17-2012, 11:48 AM #124Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-18-2012, 08:17 AM #125
If Toby is the feature back early, I could see that helping Ponder. Teams will not be keying on our RB, but without AP, it may force Musgrave to open up the passing game a little more, helping CP develop his game. It certainly would allow us to see how his progression has come along with a full offseason under his belt. And if he starts out 0-3, it would be all the proof many need to declare him a sure fire bust and it is time to; bring in a veteran QB, draft a QB of the future, give Webb the starting nod, pick up any has been QB that was cut by any other team in the league, etc. Sorry, got sidetracked there. It would be nice to see us hold up well without AP, knowing we will eventually be getting him back. It would also be nice to see what ol Musgrave has in his playbook when he cannot fall back on Adrian. Maybe his offense has progressed this offseason also.
I still think Adrian will be the man from game 1 this (regular) season.Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.
07-18-2012, 11:25 AM #126
I'm thinking right along with you, with one exception, going 0-3 isn't a knock on Ponder which should validate getting rid of him (labeling him a bust).
He is just one piece (albeit important) to the puzzle.
I think Toby will help Ponder in a way AD can't and that is the "Dink/Dunk" portion the RB plays in the scheme. Toby seems to be very adept at chipping and then getting out to the opening. Posted a clip of some of those plays on here in the Toby thread.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-19-2012, 02:29 PM #127Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.
07-23-2012, 11:05 AM #128
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TOby and AP are pretty much the same player aside from speed and a little bit of wiggle... He reminds me of Peyton Hillis... But I think he's the worst kind of back to back up AP... There's no change of pace... just slower pace
08-06-2012, 06:47 PM #130
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