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    Re: What's so great about Dom Capers?

    GB loses to the Bears at home..... blame it on Dom!

    27-24

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    Re: What's so great about Dom Capers?

    Silly Vikings fan.
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    Re: What's so great about Dom Capers?

    Dom DeLouise?


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    Re: What's so great about Dom Capers?

    "Rockmolder" wrote:
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    I think that there's a lot to be more optimistic about. You call it taking more risks, I call it pressure. You, as a Vikings fan, should know all about how that impacts a defense, as your defense has become so much more effective agaisnt the pass with Jared Allen. Getting Cullen Jenkins back and having Raji on the team will make a huge impact by itsself. The emergence of players like Jeremy Thompson and Desmond Bishop will help as well. Apart from that, we won't be blitzing 6 on every play. Often, it'll be the unpredictability which causes a good blitz in the 3-4. This was just a standard play in the pre-season. NT drops into coverage, DEs pinch the tackles inside, Kampman takes on the RB/TE and Woodson gets to the QB. It's things like that that'll make for the biggest improvement this year.

    As to your original post. I agree, the stats aren't that impressive. It has been impressive that he has shown that he can turn a bad 4-3 defense into a good 3-4 in one year (Jacksonville, for instance). If the man has some talent on his defense, he will deliver.
    I think the unpredictability of the 3-4 is a key reason for its success like you said.
    Especially in the NFC where teams have only seen it a few times each year.
    But the team still needs to be talented and well coached.
    And that's a question mark for the Packers D.


    Yeah, Dom Capers appears to be an adequate coach.
    He's run the 3-4 a lot.
    He's had some success and some failure, hit and miss.
    Is he going to make the right decisions for the Packers?
    We'll see.
    I wouldn't trust him the way I would a few of the very best over the past decade.

    And then the talent level.
    There are reasons to be optimistic, but also reasons for doubt.
    A top ten pick that hasn't cracked the lineup.
    Another top ten pick from a few years ago with talk about him being sent to the bench.
    Guys coming back from serious injuries.
    A good but aging secondary.
    Guys being asked to do things they haven't done before.

    Personally, I don't see it as a top ten defense.
    They could always have a great year, but my guess is that they'll be pretty average and the weakness of that team years into the future.

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Not to be a wet blanket... but when's the last time a defensive lineman has come into the NFL and really done much of anything this first season?
    Even Mario Williams took 2 or really 3 years to round into NFL form.
    D Lineman just don't tend to be impact players when matched up against the bigger, stronger, more physical NFL caliber O Lineman.
    He may have a good career, but I wouldn't count on having a better, more aggressive, higher pressure D Line because of a rookie.
    Tamba Hali had a pretty good rookie season two years ago.
    I know Kevin Williams had a great rookie season (seems way back now).
    Before that I think of speed rushers like Jevon Kearse.
    But you're right, there aren't that many.


    Even if you're not just looking at DEs and sacks, a role Raji probably won't be asked to fill in the 3-4 (even if he's at DE in that system), not many DTs are effective right away.
    Dorsey and Ellis were both much talked about last year, and I think both were somewhat of disappointments in their rookie years.
    Who knows what the future holds for them though.
    I think Ngata had a good rookie season and delivered as expected a few years ago, despite having almost nothing in terms of stats.

    But if I were a Packers fan I would be wondering why this Raji kid isn't starting week 1, assuming he is as great as many would like to believe.
    Especially after seeing the way the last high draft pick, Hawk, has gone.
    Seems you should be able to see how a young kid on the defensive line matches up physically against NFL talent pretty quickly, so to be on the bench seems odd if he is really good.
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    Re: What's so great about Dom Capers?

    Raji is hurt.

    He will be in the rotation for both NT and DE.
    It might be as early as this week.


    We will be running a rotation like we did in '07 with our DL prior to Jolly getting injured that year.






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    Raji is hurt.

    He will be in the rotation for both NT and DE.
    It might be as early as this week.


    We will be running a rotation like we did in '07 with our DL prior to Jolly getting injured that year.
    Ahh... I didn't see that.
    And I actually looked too.

    Oh well.
    I still hope he's terrible.
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    "dfosterf" wrote:
    Silly Vikings fan.
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    What......... 27-24...... it is a good effort even in a loss to the bears!


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    "dfosterf" wrote:
    Raji is hurt.

    He will be in the rotation for both NT and DE.
    It might be as early as this week.


    We will be running a rotation like we did in '07 with our DL prior to Jolly getting injured that year.





    As for Raji, it appears he will be a beast at the NFL level.

    The Packers defense should be improved.

    The Vikings offense should be improved.

    Going to be an exciting year.

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    "snowinapril" wrote:
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    Silly Vikings fan.
    ;D
    What......... 27-24...... it is a good effort even in a loss to the bears!

    Not biting this week.
    You come get me in week 4.
    I will not be available after the first week, because I am too
    nice a fellow, and there is NO WAY I'm going to point out how badly we mauled the Browns and set you guys up for more of your classic delusions in large part due to that (meaningless) pre-season game...not after they beat you this week...
    It just wouldn't be nice. :P

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    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Not to be a wet blanket... but when's the last time a defensive lineman has come into the NFL and really done much of anything this first season?
    Even Mario Williams took 2 or really 3 years to round into NFL form.
    D Lineman just don't tend to be impact players when matched up against the bigger, stronger, more physical NFL caliber O Lineman.
    He may have a good career, but I wouldn't count on having a better, more aggressive, higher pressure D Line because of a rookie.
    Wasn't Vonnie Holiday defensive rookie of the year in '98?
    I didn't look this up..
    I'm just going on memory.
    He was overlooked because, obviously, Moss lit the league on fire that year too.

    It's not often ANY rookie comes in and does much of anything.
    There's always a handful each year that tend to be really successful.
    It's a crap shoot for the most part (at least, for us fans watching).

    Personally, I think Raji will be a pretty decent to good rookie this year..
    Maybe even in the running for defensive rookie of the year.

    As far as Capers..
    I'm not too worried about his defense this year.
    Next year, though..
    We'll see.
    I believe it'll take at least half a season before GB's defense starts to click.
    Against us?

    I'm not worried at all.
    (look at AP's success against the 3-4..)
    Vegans are eating the rainforests. =(

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