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    Re: shows how good packers are

    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "superior230bartime" wrote:
    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
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    I am one that always cries about calls.
    The one call that was bad was the INT taken away from Harris when he stripped the ball from TO.
    Other than that, I don't remember any others.
    I didn't watch the entire game though.

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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "superior230bartime" wrote:
    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
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    I am one that always cries about calls.
    The one call that was bad was the INT taken away from Harris when he stripped the ball from TO.
    Other than that, I don't remember any others.
    I didn't watch the entire game though.
    The pass interference call was bogus too.
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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "superior230bartime" wrote:
    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
    \
    I am one that always cries about calls.
    The one call that was bad was the INT taken away from Harris when he stripped the ball from TO.
    Other than that, I don't remember any others.
    I didn't watch the entire game though.
    The pass interference at the end where their feet got tangled up, the ref right there called incidental contact and the flag was thrown 20 seconds after the play was done - this gave Dal the ball at the GB 5 yard line.
    The spot of the ball on a clear first down by Grant that forced the packers to kick a field goal instead of keep a drive going for a touchdown, a couple of face masks that should have been
    the 5 yard ones were ruled 15 yard face masks.
    Every controversial call was ruled in Dalls favor and was acknowledged by the announcers and analysts after the game.
    I'm not pointing this out to whine and state the Packers were robbed, just trying to make a point to all of the "refs favor the packers" guys on this board that the Packers get their share of bad calls too.
    Even if the only bad call was the int by Harris that you acknowledged, that was a huge call that woould have given the Packers the ball back at around the Dal 30 yard line instead of allowing them to drive down for a field goal - this could have been a huge difference in the game.
    In my opinion, that game proved more that if the two teams meet up again in an evenly reffed game where the Packers are healthy, the Packers can definitely compete with the Cowboys.
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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "superior230bartime" wrote:
    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
    \
    I am one that always cries about calls.
    The one call that was bad was the INT taken away from Harris when he stripped the ball from TO.
    Other than that, I don't remember any others.
    I didn't watch the entire game though.
    The pass interference call was bogus too.
    The PI call really could have gone either way.
    I don't think his arm was enough to cause the PI, but I also don't think that getting their legs tangled was "incidental" by any means.
    If he hadn't been all over his back their legs would not have gotten tangled.
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    Re: shows how good packers are

    I hate both teams. So my unbiased opinion between the two is that they are both pretty damn good teams. One major difference was Romo vs Favre.
    Romo looked Brady like and Favre looked like someone who is less relaxed in big games. I don't know why. Favre has been spectacular for the most part this season.

    It was a good game. There is still a lot of season left and things can still change. It's all about who gets on a roll come playoff time.But Green Bay has some amazing young players that have surprised most of us.
    “What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "superior230bartime" wrote:
    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
    \
    I am one that always cries about calls.
    The one call that was bad was the INT taken away from Harris when he stripped the ball from TO.
    Other than that, I don't remember any others.
    I didn't watch the entire game though.
    The pass interference call was bogus too.
    The PI call really could have gone either way.
    I don't think his arm was enough to cause the PI, but I also don't think that getting their legs tangled was "incidental" by any means.
    If he hadn't been all over his back their legs would not have gotten tangled.
    I do remember that call.
    I have to agree with Nodak.
    It could have gone either way and IMO it should have been called.
    From my view it looked like the everything was pretty intentional to include the leg entanglement.
    Again, that's just my opinion.

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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "rttsbgtgb" wrote:
    Schutz and ultravikingfan - thank you. I've been looking for classy Vikings fans on here and FINALLY I found some.

    The trash talking is inevitable, but sometimes fans of any team need to use their brain rather than speaking through hate. It makes for a far more logical assessment of a game.
    I have said this around the site before:
    I do not like the Pack, but I realize that they are playing good ball and going about it quietly.
    I read people yapping about easy schedule.
    But this is the NFL and anything can happen.
    I think you would have to have pretty big blinders if you truly believe that Pack sucks.
    They are a good team and are doing well this year.
    Even better than I expected, however, as we saw tonight when Lord Favreeeee gets outside of McCarthy's scheme and reverts back to "Chuck it Deep Brett"
    and they have to rely on thier backups they will do bad.

    Injuries killed them, but damn you would think thier backups would put up a better fight.
    Only one that I saw coming off the bench and impressing me was thier young QB.

    Another thing that has been chapping my ass is the fact that everyone keeps saying they are the youngest team.
    Hey, guess what, they are right, they are the youngest team but by only 1 year.

    Someone do the math for me to make sure I didn't do it wrong.
    (R = 1 year).

    7 Tarvaris Jackson QB 24 6-2 232 2 Alabama State
    28 Adrian Peterson RB 22 6-1 217 R Oklahoma
    49 Tony Richardson RB 35 6-1 238 13 Auburn
    82 Troy Williamson WR 24 6-1 203 3 South Carolina
    19 Bobby Wade WR 26 5-10 190 5 Arizona
    81 Visanthe Shiancoe TE 27 6-4 250 5 Morgan State
    78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
    62 Ryan Cook OT 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
    64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
    76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
    74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
    58 years.
    Defense
    NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
    91 Ray Edwards DE 22 6-5 268 2 Purdue
    95 Kenechi Udeze DE 24 6-3 281 4 USC
    93 Kevin Williams DL 27 6-5 311 5 Oklahoma State
    94 Pat Williams DL 35 6-3 317 11 Texas A&M
    52 Chad Greenway LB 24 6-2 242 2 Iowa
    56 E.J. Henderson LB 27 6-1 245 5 Maryland
    51 Ben Leber LB 28 6-3 244 6 Kansas State
    23 Cedric Griffin CB 25 6-0 203 2 Texas
    26 Antoine Winfield CB 30 5-9 180 9 Ohio State
    42 Darren Sharper S 32 6-2 210 11 William & Mary
    24 Dwight Smith S 29 5-10 201 7 Akron
    58 years + 58 Years = 116 years

    Offense
    NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
    4 Brett Favre QB 38 6-2 222 17 Southern Miss

    25 Ryan Grant RB 24 6-1 218 1 Notre Dame
    35 Korey Hall FB 24 6-0 236 R Boise State
    80 Donald Driver WR 32 6-0 190 9 Alcorn State
    85 Greg Jennings WR 24 5-11 197 2 Western Michigan
    86 Donald Lee TE 27 6-4 248 5 Mississippi State
    63 Scott Wells C 26 6-2 295 4 Tennessee
    73 Daryn Colledge G 25 6-4 305 2 Boise State
    72 Jason Spitz G 24 6-3 300 2 Louisville
    76 Chad Clifton OT 31 6-5 320 8 Tennessee
    65 Mark Tauscher OT 30 6-3 315 8 Wisconsin
    59 years
    Defense
    NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
    94 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila DE 30 6-4 247 8 San Diego State
    74 Aaron Kampman DE 28 6-4 270 6 Iowa
    97 Johnny Jolly DT 24 6-3 312 2 Texas A&M
    79 Ryan Pickett DT 28 6-2 322 7 Ohio State
    56 Nick Barnett LB 26 6-2 232 5 Oregon State
    50 AJ Hawk LB 23 6-1 247 2 Ohio State
    51 Brady Poppinga LB 28 6-3 245 3 Brigham Young
    31 Al Harris CB 32 6-1 188 10 Texas A&M-Kingsville
    21 Charles Woodson CB 31 6-1 200 10 Michigan
    20 Atari Bigby S 26 5-11 211 2 UCF
    37 Aaron Rouse S 23 6-4 223 R Virginia Tech
    56 Years + 59 Years = 115 Years.

    1 year, jeeeeezzzz.
    Hell the only place they are really younger than us is on the OL line


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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "rttsbgtgb" wrote:
    Schutz and ultravikingfan - thank you. I've been looking for classy Vikings fans on here and FINALLY I found some.

    The trash talking is inevitable, but sometimes fans of any team need to use their brain rather than speaking through hate. It makes for a far more logical assessment of a game.
    I have said this around the site before:
    I do not like the Pack, but I realize that they are playing good ball and going about it quietly.
    I read people yapping about easy schedule.
    But this is the NFL and anything can happen.
    I think you would have to have pretty big blinders if you truly believe that Pack sucks.
    They are a good team and are doing well this year.
    Even better than I expected, however, as we saw tonight when Lord Favreeeee gets outside of McCarthy's scheme and reverts back to "Chuck it Deep Brett"
    and they have to rely on thier backups they will do bad.

    Injuries killed them, but gol 'darnit you would think thier backups would put up a better fight.
    Only one that I saw coming off the bench and impressing me was thier young QB.

    Another thing that has been chapping my jiggly butt is the fact that everyone keeps saying they are the youngest team.
    Hey, guess what, they are right, they are the youngest team but by only 1 year.

    Someone do the math for me to make sure I didn't do it wrong.
    (R = 1 year).

    7 Tarvaris Jackson QB 24 6-2 232 2 Alabama State
    28 Adrian Peterson RB 22 6-1 217 R Oklahoma
    49 Tony Richardson RB 35 6-1 238 13 Auburn
    82 Troy Williamson WR 24 6-1 203 3 South Carolina
    19 Bobby Wade WR 26 5-10 190 5 Arizona
    81 Visanthe Shiancoe TE 27 6-4 250 5 Morgan State
    78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
    62 Ryan Cook OT 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
    64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
    76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
    74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
    58 years.
    Defense
    NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
    91 Ray Edwards DE 22 6-5 268 2 Purdue
    95 Kenechi Udeze DE 24 6-3 281 4 USC
    93 Kevin Williams DL 27 6-5 311 5 Oklahoma State
    94 Pat Williams DL 35 6-3 317 11 Texas A&M
    52 Chad Greenway LB 24 6-2 242 2 Iowa
    56 E.J. Henderson LB 27 6-1 245 5 Maryland
    51 Ben Leber LB 28 6-3 244 6 Kansas State
    23 Cedric Griffin CB 25 6-0 203 2 Texas
    26 Antoine Winfield CB 30 5-9 180 9 Ohio State
    42 Darren Sharper S 32 6-2 210 11 William & Mary
    24 Dwight Smith S 29 5-10 201 7 Akron
    58 years + 58 Years = 116 years

    Offense
    NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
    4 Brett Favre QB 38 6-2 222 17 Southern Miss

    25 Ryan Grant RB 24 6-1 218 1 Notre Dame
    35 Korey Hall FB 24 6-0 236 R Boise State
    80 Donald Driver WR 32 6-0 190 9 Alcorn State
    85 Greg Jennings WR 24 5-11 197 2 Western Michigan
    86 Donald Lee TE 27 6-4 248 5 Mississippi State
    63 Scott Wells C 26 6-2 295 4 Tennessee
    73 Daryn Colledge G 25 6-4 305 2 Boise State
    72 Jason Spitz G 24 6-3 300 2 Louisville
    76 Chad Clifton OT 31 6-5 320 8 Tennessee
    65 Mark Tauscher OT 30 6-3 315 8 Wisconsin
    59 years
    Defense
    NO. NAME POS AGE HT WT EXP COLLEGE
    94 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila DE 30 6-4 247 8 San Diego State
    74 Aaron Kampman DE 28 6-4 270 6 Iowa
    97 Johnny Jolly DT 24 6-3 312 2 Texas A&M
    79 Ryan Pickett DT 28 6-2 322 7 Ohio State
    56 Nick Barnett LB 26 6-2 232 5 Oregon State
    50 AJ Hawk LB 23 6-1 247 2 Ohio State
    51 Brady Poppinga LB 28 6-3 245 3 Brigham Young
    31 Al Harris CB 32 6-1 188 10 Texas A&M-Kingsville
    21 Charles Woodson CB 31 6-1 200 10 Michigan
    20 Atari Bigby S 26 5-11 211 2 UCF
    37 Aaron Rouse S 23 6-4 223 R Virginia Tech
    56 Years + 59 Years = 115 Years.

    1 year, jeeeeezzzz.
    Hell the only place they are really younger than us is on the OL line


    Dude, your argument would be more meaningful if you had done your math right.
    The defense for the Vikings adds up to 64 making there 7 total years difference between the Packers and the Vikings.
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    Re: shows how good packers are

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "superior230bartime" wrote:
    I don't think anyone is worried about Billvike's opinion, he has proven time and time again that he is an idiot.
    This is the same guy that posted how he thought it was funny when favre's dad died.
    I don't think last nights game proved a whole lot.
    The Cowboy's won a close game at home with the help of some key injuries to the Packers and some bad calls by the refs.
    Even you Viking fans that watched that game and continually try to say that the refs favor the Packers, have to admit that the Packers were on the wrong side of some bad calls last night.
    \
    I am one that always cries about calls.
    The one call that was bad was the INT taken away from Harris when he stripped the ball from TO.
    Other than that, I don't remember any others.
    I didn't watch the entire game though.
    The pass interference call was bogus too.
    The PI call really could have gone either way.
    I don't think his arm was enough to cause the PI, but I also don't think that getting their legs tangled was "incidental" by any means.
    If he hadn't been all over his back their legs would not have gotten tangled.
    I do remember that call.
    I have to agree with Nodak.
    It could have gone either way and IMO it should have been called.
    From my view it looked like the everything was pretty intentional to include the leg entanglement.
    Again, that's just my opinion.
    I thought on the Packers first series when Favre went deep to Driver and the Cowboy defender never turned his head.
    He was face guarding the entire play.
    That was more of a pass interference penalty than the one they called against the Pack in the 4th quarter.

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