Thread: ESPN Analyst tears into Favre

I turned on ESPN radio tonight and and to my sheer delight, there was a 20-minute long Rant against Favre. It was AWESOME. I think the guy's name was Adam Felgner or something. Here are some points he made:

- Favre was a "riverboat gambler" and "gunslinger" who took way too many chances.
- He also put himself above the team.
- Example: the Giants NFC playoff game, when Favre threw ridiculous passes that again destroyed the Pack.
- Favre is a "diva" in the offseason, and obviously likes it when everyone is speculating on "will he return" or not. I guess a "diva" means, "high maintenance woman".
- Favre always left the team and was more into mowing his lawn down in Mississippi than being with the team to train.

I actually agreed with almost all those points.

The analyst said, these risktakers don't win rings. Guys like Eli Manning do, because they put team ahead of their own desire to just air the ball out downfield.

Nice toss Eli.

I agree with those points but the Eli example made me throw up my cereal. And yes I realized its midnight. that's how bad it is.

All day long on almost every sports program, B.Favre received loads of attention.
I hope he doesn't get the itch to play in a few months, when the mental fatigue subsides.
if he comes out of retirement.

"StillPurple" wrote:

I turned on ESPN radio tonight and and to my sheer delight, there was a 20-minute long Rant against Favre. It was AWESOME. I think the guy's name was Adam Felgner or something. Here are some points he made:

- Favre was a "riverboat gambler" and "gunslinger" who took way too many chances.
- He also put himself above the team.
- Example: the Giants NFC playoff game, when Favre threw ridiculous passes that again destroyed the Pack.
- Favre is a "diva" in the offseason, and obviously likes it when everyone is speculating on "will he return" or not. I guess a "diva" means, "high maintenance woman".
- Favre always left the team and was more into mowing his lawn down in Mississippi than being with the team to train.

I actually agreed with almost all those points.

The analyst said, these risktakers don't win rings. Guys like Eli Manning do, because they put team ahead of their own desire to just air the ball out downfield.

So the superbowl Favre won didn't count?
Sure rip on the guy that has brought success to Green Bay for almost 2 decades.
If that is what he said the guy obviously didn't like Favre when he was playing so I felt I needed to take some pot shots at Favre to seem important.
That was Favre's style, there is so much more to a team winning a superbowl than just a QB in most situations and the fact that the Packers only won one SB(which is more than a lot of players get) isn't on Favre's shoulders.


This is just another sports hack trying to sound like they have some sort of "different" opinion that matters even though he's an idiot.
Favre has more super bowl wins than the Golden Boy Dan Marino.
And apparently the "diva" was just a horrible team player, not to mention the lawn mowing apparently made him one of the best QBs in NFL history.

At the very least I can take pleasure in the fact that this idiot's deep hatred of Favre will only get worse as everybody else tells him why Favre is a great QB, and he'll even half to watch Favre get inducted to the HoF with his super bowl ring that risktakers apparently don't win.
What a joke.

I am with you on this one Schutz.
Eli doesn't just hurl it? Hell ... did this guy even watch the final drive of the Super Bowl! Eli's whole win is based on a hurl into traffic with a lucky catch at the end.
Look ... I know he is a Packer ... I know he took a few too many chances at times, but the guy one more games than ANY QB, one a Super Bowl (which only 26 QBS in history have done and greats like Tarkenton, Kelly, Moon and Marino could not do), won THREE MVP's, threw more TDS than ANY QB, more yards than ANY QB and finished with a career passer rating that is better than Kelly, Staubach, Dawson, Aikman, Jurgensen, Moon, Starr, Tarkenton, Fouts, Elway and Unitas (all HOFers).
Simply put, this guy is a radio hack who is full of shit. To not pay respect to one of the greatest players of all time is an absolute joke.

"Schutz" wrote:

"StillPurple" wrote:

I turned on ESPN radio tonight and and to my sheer delight, there was a 20-minute long Rant against Favre. It was AWESOME. I think the guy's name was Adam Felgner or something. Here are some points he made:

- Favre was a "riverboat gambler" and "gunslinger" who took way too many chances.
- He also put himself above the team.
- Example: the Giants NFC playoff game, when Favre threw ridiculous passes that again destroyed the Pack.
- Favre is a "diva" in the offseason, and obviously likes it when everyone is speculating on "will he return" or not. I guess a "diva" means, "high maintenance woman".
- Favre always left the team and was more into mowing his lawn down in Mississippi than being with the team to train.

I actually agreed with almost all those points.

The analyst said, these risktakers don't win rings. Guys like Eli Manning do, because they put team ahead of their own desire to just air the ball out downfield.

So the superbowl Favre won didn't count?
Sure rip on the guy that has brought success to Green Bay for almost 2 decades.
If that is what he said the guy obviously didn't like Favre when he was playing so I felt I needed to take some pot shots at Favre to seem important.
That was Favre's style, there is so much more to a team winning a superbowl than just a QB in most situations and the fact that the Packers only won one SB(which is more than a lot of players get) isn't on Favre's shoulders.


This is just another sports hack trying to sound like they have some sort of "different" opinion that matters even though he's an idiot.
Favre has more super bowl wins than the Golden Boy Dan Marino.
And apparently the "diva" was just a horrible team player, not to mention the lawn mowing apparently made him one of the best QBs in NFL history.

At the very least I can take pleasure in the fact that this idiot's deep hatred of Favre will only get worse as everybody else tells him why Favre is a great QB, and he'll even half to watch Favre get inducted to the HoF with his super bowl ring that risktakers apparently don't win.
What a joke.

I agree that Favre is/was a great QB & one of the greatest things that happened to GB in their history. Lombardi being the first.

But that doesn't mean the guy was an idiot. In fact, IMO, he was spot on on more than one of his comments.

Favre was definitely a "gunslinger" who took way too many chances. I don't know of too many people that will deny that. Packer fans included. Great QB's do take risks to win ball games, but he has also done it when the Packers had a comfortable lead. IMO. he was the biggest "Risk takers" to ever play the game.

He also put himself above the team in search of breaking records & has lost games because of it when simple ball control would have prevented it. Risk taking when you are ahead is further evidence that he was out to break records.Again, living in Wisconsin & working with Packer fans, I have heard many of them say it.

It's also evident to me & I'm sure many others that Favre loves the attention he gets from the media. His yearly ritual of speculating his return or retirement exemplifies that as well as his pseudo retirement speech after the last game of the season 2 years ago.

As I stated in another post as well, Favre's retirement announcement may have come the day after Moss', not because he was disappointed that GB didn't attempt to or sign him, but possibly to steal the media limelight back away from Moss & focus it back on himself.

Hey Shutz, Brad Johnson has a Super Bowl ring, does that make him "great" ? So does Trent Dilfer and Jeff Hofstelter. Would you call them "great" because of that ?

Remember that game about 5 years ago ? NFC Playoffs, Packers at the Rams. Favre absolutely sank the team by throwing I think 5 interceptions. It was ridiculous. And he has done that more than once (I remember him doing it against us). I think to judge Favre's record, you have to look specifically at what he did or did not do for his team in the playoffs. I don't have the stats, but I just wonder what Favre's overall playoff record is, and how many picks he threw.

And yes, he often at least appeared more personal-stat-driven than team-driven.

Yes, the Packers won the Super Bowl, but if you are such a great QB, why not more than just one ? My argument is that they could have had more than that.

The point is that the great QBs control the game, and that sometimes means sitting on the ball and handing off.

BTW, I disagree about Eli. Throughout the playoffs, he threw zero INTs, and he had to throw some of those passes in the Show, because the game was so tight. Eli learned to throw shorter, high-percentage passes as the season went on. Eli threw those longer balls in the Super Bowl, but they were more like jump balls, because the Giants had decided that their own WRs were taller than the Pats corners, and so throwing those passes made sense, because the Pats corners were getting "owned" in that game.

I also think that Favre's lame attempt to get Randy Moss was bad. No sense of team or history, especially after Moss mooned Lambeau. Can you imagine Tom Brady saying something like "We can't win and I will retire if we don't get Javon Walker ?". Or Joe Montana saying "I walk if we don't get Michael Irvin" ? Lame.

Ohhhhhh Lord.
Will he never go away?


He's gone, let it go.

We should start a pool.
In the first sunday night game, how many times will Madden make mention to Favre.