Thread: Capers joins Packers as defensive coordinator

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3843754

McCarthy said the team will switch from a 4-3 defense, which utilizes four down linemen and three linebackers, to Capers' specialty, the 3-4 defense, which uses three linemen and four linebackers.

Oh shit, those Packers are going to have to wait 4-5 years now for the roster to be turned over to fit the new scheme and for the new scheme to be implemented.

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Oh pooh, those Packers are going to have to wait 4-5 years now for the roster to be turned over to fit the new scheme and for the new scheme to be implemented.

BS. As long as they stay in their lanes, they'll be fine !

Boy I thought Marrdro would be all over this thread by now. Do you guys think this will benefit Peterson or make it worse for him?

"marstc09" wrote:

Boy I thought Marrdro would be all over this thread by now. Do you guys think this will benefit Peterson or make it worse for him?

Why?

Anyway, After a quick glance at thier Front Seven candidates, I wonder how they are gonna go to that scheme.
No real big guy in the middle, Not sure thier DE's fit the bill and thier LB's, especially thier outside guys aren't of the typical build associated wtih the scheme.

57 Jason Hunter DE 25 6-4 271 3 Appalachian State
77 Cullen Jenkins DE 28 6-2 305 5 Central Michigan
74 Aaron Kampman DE 29 6-4 265 7 Iowa
96 Michael Montgomery DE 25 6-5 273 4 Texas A&M
93 Kenny Pettway DE 26 6-4 248 4 Grambling State
99 Jeremy Thompson DE 23 6-4 270 R Wake Forest
90 Colin Cole DT 28 6-1 330 4 Iowa
91 Justin Harrell DT 24 6-4 310 2 Tennessee
97 Johnny Jolly DT 25 6-3 320 3 Texas A&M
98 Alfred Malone DT 26 6-5 308 2 Troy

79 Ryan Pickett DT 29 6-2 330 8 Ohio State
69 Anthony Toribio DT 23 6-1 300 R Carson-Newman
56 Nick Barnett LB 27 6-2 236 6 Oregon State
55 Desmond Bishop LB 24 6-2 238 2 California
54 Brandon Chillar LB 26 6-3 243 5 UCLA
53 Spencer Havner LB 25 6-3 244 1 UCLA
50 A.J. Hawk LB 25 6-1 248 3 Ohio State
58 Danny Lansanah LB 23 6-1 248 R Connecticut
51 Brady Poppinga LB 29 6-3 247 4 Brigham Young

Maybe they will be active in the FA period now as they try to get thier roster to fit the scheme.
Oh wait, they could tweek the scheme and just play to the strenght of the players right (even though that would mean they have to stay in a 4-3
;D)

Jenkins is much more of a 3-4 DE then he is a 4-3

Ryan Pickett will be thier NT and will play
it damn well

Kampman is typically on the lighter side.. We will see how that works

Got Hawk who I think is a better 3-4 LB then a 4-3

Barnett in the middle

Poppinga and Chillar are tweeners.. I think they will be ok

I think it can give teams problems.. Might take some time to get used to.. But I think it's a good move

So yes Ryan Pickett is that big guy.. He is a great run stopper

Jenkins is a big guy and will
be a good DE in the 3-4

Kampman may be too light.. but he was doubled all the time anyway

Hawk's strength is blitzing and with the 3-4 they can use him in that role more I.E Julian Peterson, Joey porter kinda guy

Im talking to my guy about Chillar.. He said he played better then hawk this year and really stepped up his game

he said Poppinga can go.. So he hopes they add a guy for his spot that can blitz and cover

"V4L" wrote:

Jenkins is much more of a 3-4 DE then he is a 4-3

Ryan Pickett will be thier NT and will play
it gol 'darnit well

Kampman is typically on the lighter side.. We will see how that works

Got Hawk who I think is a better 3-4 LB then a 4-3

Barnett in the middle

Poppinga and Chillar are tweeners.. I think they will be ok

I think it can give teams problems.. Might take some time to get used to.. But I think it's a good move

Hmmmmmm.
Sure, they have a couple of guys that seem to fit the scheme, however, the predominance of those guys that are currently on the roster don't and that is the rub.

It isn't like they are gonna be able to just plug 7 guys out there and expect to execute the scheme. As with all positions, there will have to be a significant rotation of most positions (especially NT, LB'rs) to keep up the high energy needed to make this work.

The prototypical 3-4 NT is the Raiders' Ted Washington, who is a massive 6-5 365.

3-4 OLBs are the playmakers of the D. They get the glory of picking up sacks on the QB. They must have strong pass rush skills and be able to drop into coverage. If the 3-4 OLBs are unable to consistently apply pressure on the QB, the D is very vulnerable in the passing game. They tend to weigh around 245-270, and many are former 4-3 DE/OLB "tweeners"

http://www.geocities.com/epark/raide...4-defense.html

Just don't see it happening without a complete overhaul of that roster, especially the front 7 canidates.

"Marrdro" wrote:

"V4L" wrote:

Jenkins is much more of a 3-4 DE then he is a 4-3

Ryan Pickett will be thier NT and will play
it gol 'darnit well

Kampman is typically on the lighter side.. We will see how that works

Got Hawk who I think is a better 3-4 LB then a 4-3

Barnett in the middle

Poppinga and Chillar are tweeners.. I think they will be ok

I think it can give teams problems.. Might take some time to get used to.. But I think it's a good move

Hmmmmmm.
Sure, they have a couple of guys that seem to fit the scheme, however, the predominance of those guys that are currently on the roster don't and that is the rub.

It isn't like they are gonna be able to just plug 7 guys out there and expect to execute the scheme. As with all positions, there will have to be a significant rotation of most positions (especially NT, LB'rs) to keep up the high energy needed to make this work.

The prototypical 3-4 NT is the Raiders' Ted Washington, who is a massive 6-5 365.

3-4 OLBs are the playmakers of the D. They get the glory of picking up sacks on the QB. They must have strong pass rush skills and be able to drop into coverage. If the 3-4 OLBs are unable to consistently apply pressure on the QB, the D is very vulnerable in the passing game. They tend to weigh around 245-270, and many are former 4-3 DE/OLB "tweeners"

http://www.geocities.com/epark/raide...4-defense.html

Just don't see it happening without a complete overhaul of that roster, especially the front 7 canidates.

They did play some 3-4 and had some success

Ryan Picket is HUGE man.. GREAT run stopper as well.. He is a lil shorter then 6-5 but probably the same body frame

Hawk is will be a great 3-4 LB.. Like I said they need a new OLB.. Poppinga can come in and cover to spell the guys

It won't be an immediate success IMO.. But not a huge drop off from thier horrible D last year

My buddy is pretty excited and was calling for more of it last year

"V4L" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"V4L" wrote:

Jenkins is much more of a 3-4 DE then he is a 4-3

Ryan Pickett will be thier NT and will play
it gol 'darnit well

Kampman is typically on the lighter side.. We will see how that works

Got Hawk who I think is a better 3-4 LB then a 4-3

Barnett in the middle

Poppinga and Chillar are tweeners.. I think they will be ok

I think it can give teams problems.. Might take some time to get used to.. But I think it's a good move

Hmmmmmm.
Sure, they have a couple of guys that seem to fit the scheme, however, the predominance of those guys that are currently on the roster don't and that is the rub.

It isn't like they are gonna be able to just plug 7 guys out there and expect to execute the scheme. As with all positions, there will have to be a significant rotation of most positions (especially NT, LB'rs) to keep up the high energy needed to make this work.

The prototypical 3-4 NT is the Raiders' Ted Washington, who is a massive 6-5 365.

3-4 OLBs are the playmakers of the D. They get the glory of picking up sacks on the QB. They must have strong pass rush skills and be able to drop into coverage. If the 3-4 OLBs are unable to consistently apply pressure on the QB, the D is very vulnerable in the passing game. They tend to weigh around 245-270, and many are former 4-3 DE/OLB "tweeners"

http://www.geocities.com/epark/raide...4-defense.html

Just don't see it happening without a complete overhaul of that roster, especially the front 7 canidates.

They did play some 3-4 and had some success

Ryan Picket is HUGE man.. GREAT run stopper as well.. He is a lil shorter then 6-5 but probably the same body frame

Hawk is will be a great 3-4 LB.. Like I said they need a new OLB.. Poppinga can come in and cover to spell the guys

It won't be an immediate success IMO.. But not a huge drop off from thier horrible D last year

My buddy is pretty excited and was calling for more of it last year

In the long run, they do have some players that will fit the scheme, but as you said, there will be some dropoff........

Again, to limit some of that dropoff they might be active in the FA market......

Haynesworth, Suggs, Dansby, Scott etc would all be improvements on what they have and the left overs could provide depth/rotation.