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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    One of the Viking's hierarchy either Spielman or Childress said that the Viking's didn't address the O-line in the draft because when they were picking there wasn't an O-lineman that they felt was a value at that pick and they didn't want to take somebody they didn't think would help the team just to take them.

    I have heard so many interviews that I can't remember which one said it.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    :cough: Alan Faneca. :cough:


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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    It has been clear all along that we have had too many needs this offseason to address them all in the draft. Childress is at fault for not addressing more needs in FA.

    In the end, our coach has put his faith in his young guys. The are unproven but do have potential.
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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    "V" wrote:
    It has been clear all along that we have had too many needs this offseason to address them all in the draft. Childress is at fault for not addressing more needs in FA.

    In the end, our coach has put his faith in his young guys. The are unproven but do have potential.
    I'm quite pleased with the job Childress is doing.

    I know he has a plan for the right side of the line.

    I just wish a reporter would ask him the question, so the rest of us have an understanding of what the plan is.

    Optomism reigns on PPO where many pessimists resided pre-draft.

    Give us a good right side of the line and I will be very optomistic.
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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    We got some good undrafted FAs to help fill out the depth...Mozes should end up being a good backup to Birk...and a few of the others should also help fill in the backup holes.
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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    I think we will be ok at the line...it just would been nice that someone would have fell to round 3 or something

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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    "jargomcfargo" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    It has been clear all along that we have had too many needs this offseason to address them all in the draft. Childress is at fault for not addressing more needs in FA.

    In the end, our coach has put his faith in his young guys. The are unproven but do have potential.
    I'm quite pleased with the job Childress is doing.

    I know he has a plan for the right side of the line.

    I just wish a reporter would ask him the question, so the rest of us have an understanding of what the plan is.

    Optomism reigns on PPO where many pessimists resided pre-draft.

    Give us a good right side of the line and I will be very optomistic.
    Pretty much somes it up for me, although I wish they would have signed a veteran (used to start) QB with enough game time experience that T-Jack good learn, draw from & get pointers from.

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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    "singersp" wrote:
    "jargomcfargo" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    It has been clear all along that we have had too many needs this offseason to address them all in the draft. Childress is at fault for not addressing more needs in FA.

    In the end, our coach has put his faith in his young guys. The are unproven but do have potential.
    I'm quite pleased with the job Childress is doing.

    I know he has a plan for the right side of the line.

    I just wish a reporter would ask him the question, so the rest of us have an understanding of what the plan is.

    Optomism reigns on PPO where many pessimists resided pre-draft.

    Give us a good right side of the line and I will be very optomistic.
    Pretty much somes it up for me, although I wish they would have signed a veteran (used to start) QB with enough game time experience that T-Jack good learn, draw from & get pointers from.
    Maybe Jeff George is available?
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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    Analyze the data my friends.

    ;D

    The organization will go with what they have.
    Add to the future through undrafted FA talent (some good prospects on paper in there) and if and only if, a young OL that fits the ZB scheme falls off a roster will they pick him up.

    No roster spots to old guys with bad backs, knees and shoulders....that want lots of bucks.
    What part of you don't go into a season without so much as a back up don't you understand?
    I also don't think you wait, HOPING a OL man gets cut.

    There is no backup for McKinnie & if they move Johnson to guard, there is no back up for Cook. And that's saying they can successfully move him from his normal center position to tackle.

    Who is going to back up McKinnie? Tell me.

    Unless that lone UDFA OL man they picked up pans out.
    Great questions.....
    Probaboy the same plan they used last year.
    Might increase from 8 to 9 or 10 OL this year, but I don't know yet.
    Time will tell.


    Roster last year:

    Matt Birk C

    Ryan Cook C


    Cullen Loeffler C


    Marcus Johnson OT


    Bryant McKinnie OT


    Anthony Herrera OG

    Artis Hicks OG


    Steve Hutchinson OG



    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/roster?team=min


    My assumption is (if they increase number of OL on roster) they will pick from the following:

    Dan Mozes
    Katnik
    Daniels
    Day
    Johnson

    Possibly more to follow to choose from........

    Seems to me they have a few to choose from.

    Now if you are taking the tact that we need to get rid of a few that were on the team last year because of performance, then probably a vet should be added.

    I for one am not of the ilk.
    I think we are set with starters.
    We will add 1 or 2 for depth/future and go from there.

    Could be a slight difference of opnion here I assume
    ;D

    This is how it appears to stack out



    LT: McKinnie Depth: C.Johnson

    LG: Hutchinson Depth: Herrera, Daniels

    C: Birk Depth: Cook? Katnik, Mozes

    RG: Hicks Depth: * Martin? (played C in college)

    RT: M.Johnson Depth: Cook?

    G or T Depth: Josh Day

    * Not sure if Martin is a LG or RG

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    Explosive, small-area blocker who plays with a nasty attitude. Quickly gets off the line, attacks assignments and plays with good pad level. Stays square, works his hands throughout the action and is strong at the point. Anchors in pass protection or gets movement from run blocks. Keeps his head on a swivel and remains aware.

    Neg:

    Struggles in space, is not effective on the second level and has difficulty adjusting to pick up blitzes. Tends to fall off blocks and is not a true finisher.

    http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=132&p=8&c=1&nid=2708866


    Brian Daniels: 6-4, 285 lbs.

    a tremendous offensive lineman who made All-State as a junior. He has excellent quickness and agility for a big guy.

    http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=1&nid=272071


    Chase Johnson: 6-8, 325 lbs.

    The massing 6-8, 325-pound senior is one of the Mountain West's best linemen and should be the anchor of the line. This is his fourth year as a starter having been one of the team's steadiest players. While he isn't always dominant in the running game, his long arms and quickness make him a good pass blocker.

    http://cfn.scout.com/2/553969.html


    It doesn't look promising for Day, but Daniels & Johnson seem to have potential.

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    Re: zerO-Line help in the draft...

    LT: McKinnie Depth: C.Johnson

    LG: Hutchinson Depth: Herrera, Daniels

    C: Birk Depth: Cook? Katnik, Mozes

    RG: Hicks Depth: * Martin? (played C in college)

    RT: M.Johnson Depth: Cook?

    G or T Depth: Josh Day

    * Not sure if Martin is a LG or RG


    I wonder how many they will keep?
    Bolded the ones that I think will make the team and that comes to nine as apposed to them only carrying 8 last year.

    Should be interesting how this all plays out especially if they are gonna keep an extra WR or two on the roster/practice squad and possibly an additional OL or two.

    Who falls off.
    Again, should be very interesting how the staff approaches this.
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