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    marcosMN is offline Star Spokesman
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    Re: Are WRs perceived value distorted by their QBs skill?

    "Del" wrote:
    "Purplexing" wrote:
    Collegiate WRs we Viking fans have been discussing may be rated high on the draft boards partly because they played with a great QB who threw the football well.
    Or, a few lower rated WRs may be 'sleepers' because they played on a team with a QB unable to consistently get the ball to them due to lesser skills or poor gameplanning or playcalling by the coach(es).

    Does anyone have any insight into the impacts of the performance of their teammate QBs, or coaches, on the current draft values of CJohnson, Bowe, Ginn, Meachem, Jarrett, etc. ?

    I think this is why great WRs, like Jerry Rice, were overlooked by some draft experts and talent scouts.
    The Vikings may now have a better WR coach (I forgot his name and I'm too lazy to look it up right now
    ....Stewart?) who might provide better insights into collegiate WRs that Studwell, Spielman and Childress have been trying to rate for the Vikings draft board.
    This can be said for NFL players just as much as Collegiate players.
    I was thinking the same thing, lol.

    And then I was going to continue as such:

    "The sky is also blue, water is wet, etc. The team around a player is/has always been taken in to account when rating a player."

    A receiver on YOUR board may be perceived wrong, but its less likely to be wrong on a board written by a professional scout.

    EDIT: That is not to say scouts don't make mistakes. It is far from an exact science.
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    Re: Are WRs perceived value distorted by their QBs skill?

    A players ability to play football well will always be largely effected by his teamates ability to do their jobs, regardless of position.

    And O-lineman will look bad if a RB doesn't know where to run or a QB holds on to the ball too long.

    A QB will look bad for a multitude of reasons pertaining to teamates

    A RB can't do much if there is no blocking or if the defense can afford to stack the box.

    A WR can't do anything if the QB can't get him the ball or they are being double/triple teamed.

    etc etc etc.


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    Re: Are WRs perceived value distorted by their QBs skill?

    "Del" wrote:

    This can be said for NFL players just as much as Collegiate players.
    Exactly, case in point Troy Williamson.
    If he would have had a great QB like Brady throwing to him instead of crappy BJ and TJ, he would have been one of the best in the league!!!


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    Re: Are WRs perceived value distorted by their QBs skill?

    "Billy" wrote:
    "Del" wrote:

    This can be said for NFL players just as much as Collegiate players.
    Exactly, case in point Troy Williamson.
    If he would have had a great QB like Brady throwing to him instead of crappy BJ and TJ, he would have been one of the best in the league!!!
    Oh wait,
    other way around.

    whoops :-X


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    Re: Are WRs perceived value distorted by their QBs skill?

    "Billy" wrote:
    "Del" wrote:

    This can be said for NFL players just as much as Collegiate players.
    Exactly, case in point Troy Williamson.
    If he would have had a great QB like Brady throwing to him instead of crappy BJ and TJ, he would have been one of the best in the league!!!
    I wouldn't go that far, if the ball hits your hands, your head, your arms, your shoulders......I think you should catch the ball regardless of your QB. If I hadn't watched him drop perfectly thrown balls I would agree with you.

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    Re: Are WRs perceived value distorted by their QBs skill?

    Of Course!!


    This is a TEAM SPORT!!
    It takes the whole team working together to have a "clicking" offense!!!!


    Remember all those questionable QBs we had back in the 90s??
    Even Jeff George looked good with that all pro line, 3-deep, and Rob Smith going over 1000 yds!!!

    Each and every member of the TEAM either makes his teammates look better or worse depending on performance!!
    Including, Coaches, trainers, etc!!!
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

    "Balance it on end and thats the third side of the coin!!" -wookiefoot

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