Would you welcome Brett as a Viking???

**VikingsTw** · 01-12-2006, 06:01 AM

"PurpleManiac" wrote:

Brett was horrible last year but I think if he had Javon Walker and Ahmad Green everyone would be speaking of a different Favre.

I'm not defending him but you have to admit- when you don't know the names of the WR you just threw the ball to its going t be hard to be successful in the NFL.

I think more than his WR and RB but his oline, loosing two guys which where both pro bowlers and protected him and opened up running wholes for whatever RB is in the game. That is freak'n killer, and i dont think you know it till you experience it.

We experienced it with the loss of Birk and Dixon, pass block and run blocking just wern't the same, and it showed, especailly on Daunte.

**ItalianStallion** · 01-12-2006, 06:02 AM

"vikingstw" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

OMFG are you kidding? The guys is terrible now. We are wayyyy better off with Brad, even if it isn't saying much. The guys threw 29 INTs!!!

I'm telling you man, you can't play good football unless your serounded by great players and great coaching, its not gonna happen especailly when your favre. He lost 4 pro bowlers in the matter of one season, two of wich i think protect him from pass rush and two others that take the pressure off of him having to do everything. Favre's a great competetor and forced things, trying to do to much, trying to get a victory, kinda reminds me of culpepper and what he did at the beginning of the season, looses some offensive line, looses his coach, looses his WR. Its not easy to be a NFL QB, especailly when all the pressure is on your shoulders and you have no help around you.

So I suppose Wahle and Rivera had to remind him not to throw into triple coverage in the huddle? The guy made horrible DECISIONS last year. I don't care if the rest of the people around you are terrible, you can't make bad decisions as a QB.

The fact that this guys has led the Packers nowhere since '98, despite lots of talent is another reminder why he would not improve anything.

**LuckyVike** · 01-12-2006, 06:02 AM

"vikingstw" wrote:

"LuckyVike" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"LuckyVike" wrote:

"audioghost" wrote:

Ummm....one word....NO!

Favre can lick my salty sweaty taint.....

He's was a good QB, but he will never be man-enough to be a Viking, no matter what good media attention he'd bring!

I agree with everything in that post except on thing... he's not a good QB.

I don't know wether thats jelousy or what but he's one of the best QB's to ever play the game.

Sometimes you gotta set your feeling aside and think about sh*t. I don't really like him, maybe cause he's a packer or whatever but if he was our QB and lead us to SB victories minds could change in a hurry.

Are you serious man? I'm not questioning what he did in the PAST. He is average at best at this point.

AVERAGE AVERAGE, are you SERIOUS!!! What is average QB in this league? Jon Kitna? Trust me man if favre got in another offense that could protect him and give him time to do his thing he would put up the numbers. He's has great knowledge and experience that will propel him over the average QB till he can't throw the ball more than 40 yards.

Phhh yea ok... I can think of multiple games on the top of my head in which he cost his team the game by throwing a costly pick at the end but I mean usually he already cost his team the game by throwing on average something like 2 picks.

**VikingsTw** · 01-12-2006, 06:03 AM

"LuckyVike" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

OMFG are you kidding? The guys is terrible now. We are wayyyy better off with Brad, even if it isn't saying much. The guys threw 29 INTs!!!

I'm telling you man, you can't play good football unless your serounded by great players and great coaching, its not gonna happen especailly when your favre. He lost 4 pro bowlers in the matter of one season, two of wich i think protect him from pass rush and two others that take the pressure off of him having to do everything. Favre's a great competetor and forced things, trying to do to much, trying to get a victory, kinda reminds me of culpepper and what he did at the beginning of the season, looses some offensive line, looses his coach, looses his WR. Its not easy to be a NFL QB, especailly when all the pressure is on your shoulders and you have no help around you.

Other players in the league didn't throw no 29 interceptions and not all QB's are surrounded by good help. David Carr didn't throw 29, nor did Trent Dilfer, J.P. Losman, or Aaron Brooks.

Those guys are not expected to do the things favre does. The pressure was on there shoulders but not like favre's. Everyone looks for him to do something, to make something happen, that feeling about the QB is not going on up in Buffalo or Clevlend.

**DemonicViking** · 01-12-2006, 06:03 AM

Are you a closet Favre fan or something?

With a better cast he still may be able to produce somewhat , but his best days are still far behind him.

**VikingsTw** · 01-12-2006, 06:07 AM

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

OMFG are you kidding? The guys is terrible now. We are wayyyy better off with Brad, even if it isn't saying much. The guys threw 29 INTs!!!

I'm telling you man, you can't play good football unless your serounded by great players and great coaching, its not gonna happen especailly when your favre. He lost 4 pro bowlers in the matter of one season, two of wich i think protect him from pass rush and two others that take the pressure off of him having to do everything. Favre's a great competetor and forced things, trying to do to much, trying to get a victory, kinda reminds me of culpepper and what he did at the beginning of the season, looses some offensive line, looses his coach, looses his WR. Its not easy to be a NFL QB, especailly when all the pressure is on your shoulders and you have no help around you.

So I suppose Wahle and Rivera had to remind him not to throw into triple coverage in the huddle? The guy made horrible DECISIONS last year. I don't care if the rest of the people around you are terrible, you can't make bad decisions as a QB.

The fact that this guys has led the Packers nowhere since '98, despite lots of talent is another reminder why he would not improve anything.

Daunte Culpepper did the same exact things but he got hurt, he was way beyong Favre's pace, and on a road to set NFL records for most INT's thrown in a year.

His dicision making was bad, i agree with that by all means, they could have one that first Bears game if he hadn't screwed it up. But he presses and forces things. He probaly thought he's never see the red zone again, he better do something big.

I seen what he did the year before last, i know that if he was put in the right position he could do it again.

I'm done arguing for favre.

**LuckyVike** · 01-12-2006, 06:08 AM

"vikingstw" wrote:

"LuckyVike" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

OMFG are you kidding? The guys is terrible now. We are wayyyy better off with Brad, even if it isn't saying much. The guys threw 29 INTs!!!

I'm telling you man, you can't play good football unless your serounded by great players and great coaching, its not gonna happen especailly when your favre. He lost 4 pro bowlers in the matter of one season, two of wich i think protect him from pass rush and two others that take the pressure off of him having to do everything. Favre's a great competetor and forced things, trying to do to much, trying to get a victory, kinda reminds me of culpepper and what he did at the beginning of the season, looses some offensive line, looses his coach, looses his WR. Its not easy to be a NFL QB, especailly when all the pressure is on your shoulders and you have no help around you.

Other players in the league didn't throw no 29 interceptions and not all QB's are surrounded by good help. David Carr didn't throw 29, nor did Trent Dilfer, J.P. Losman, or Aaron Brooks.

Those guys are not expected to do the things favre does. The pressure was on there shoulders but not like favre's. Everyone looks for him to do something, to make something happen, that feeling about the QB is not going on up in Buffalo or Clevlend.

Well if he is as good and all mighty as you say then I suppose he should do what he needs to do on the field to win rather than listen to the media and ignorant fans. Don't you think so? Kind of like Brad Johnson did for us when he would be efficient rather than throwing 40 yards down field into triple coverage.

**VikingsTw** · 01-12-2006, 06:09 AM

"DemonicViking" wrote:

Are you a closet Favre fan or something?

With a better cast he still may be able to produce somewhat , but his best days are still far behind him.

Not at all, but credit is due where credit is do. Just cause i don't like him doesn't mean i can't give him the credit he deserves.

**LuckyVike** · 01-12-2006, 06:10 AM

"vikingstw" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

OMFG are you kidding? The guys is terrible now. We are wayyyy better off with Brad, even if it isn't saying much. The guys threw 29 INTs!!!

I'm telling you man, you can't play good football unless your serounded by great players and great coaching, its not gonna happen especailly when your favre. He lost 4 pro bowlers in the matter of one season, two of wich i think protect him from pass rush and two others that take the pressure off of him having to do everything. Favre's a great competetor and forced things, trying to do to much, trying to get a victory, kinda reminds me of culpepper and what he did at the beginning of the season, looses some offensive line, looses his coach, looses his WR. Its not easy to be a NFL QB, especailly when all the pressure is on your shoulders and you have no help around you.

So I suppose Wahle and Rivera had to remind him not to throw into triple coverage in the huddle? The guy made horrible DECISIONS last year. I don't care if the rest of the people around you are terrible, you can't make bad decisions as a QB.

The fact that this guys has led the Packers nowhere since '98, despite lots of talent is another reminder why he would not improve anything.

Daunte Culpepper did the same exact things but he got hurt, he was way beyong Favre's pace, and on a road to set NFL records for most INT's thrown in a year.

His dicision making was bad, i agree with that by all means, they could have one that first Bears game if he hadn't screwed it up. But he presses and forces things. He probaly thought he's never see the red zone again, he better do something big.

I seen what he did the year before last, i know that if he was put in the right position he could do it again.

I'm done arguing for favre.

About time, I was getting sick to my stomach reading that stuff...

**Ltrey33** · 01-12-2006, 06:10 AM

He's not all that great anymore and I'd rather have Brad than him at this point. With that said, if someone came up to me tomorrow and said "If the Vikings have Brett Favre as their quarterback next year, I guarantee a Super Bowl win." I'd take him as our quarterback in a heartbeat! I just want that damned trophy!