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    Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    I'll start with my short list... Add or delete yours
    Troy Williamson
    Jeff Dugan
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Or both - Can't decide)
    Mewelde Moore
    Dwight Smith
    Tank Williams

    Others?
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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    Troy Williamson for sure
    Dwight Smith
    Mewelde won't be retained.. no need for him really
    I kind of like Brooks as a third option at QB. He can come in and do a decent job but won't set the place on fire. Kelly will probably be gone and we'll bring in another Veteran to supplant him.
    Ronyell Whitaker hopefully. Chuck Gordon has been awesome this year and again we have no need for Whitaker.


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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Troy Williamson for sure
    Dwight Smith
    Mewelde won't be retained.. no need for him really
    I kind of like Brooks as a third option at QB. He can come in and do a decent job but won't set the place on fire. Kelly will probably be gone and we'll bring in another Veteran to supplant him.
    Ronyell Whitaker hopefully. Chuck Gordon has been awesome this year and again we have no need for Whitaker.

    Good choice on Whitaker. Forgot about him.
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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    I'll start with a short list...
    Troy Williamson
    Jeff Dugan
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide)
    Mewelde Moore
    Dwight Smith
    Tank Williams

    Others?
    Troy Williamson - Agree
    Jeff Dugan - Not sure but the way Garrett Mills looked last night I have to agree
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide) - Holcomb is gone
    Mewelde Moore - Unfortunately true but I hope he gets resigned
    Dwight Smith - See ya!
    He had a good year but he doesn't see eye to eye with Childress (off the field issues)
    Tank Williams - Unfortunately he hasn't had the chance to play because of injuries but I have to agree.

    I would add to the list:

    Darion Scott - Seems to have too much of an ego and the marijuana incident didn't help much
    Mike Doss - Maybe too many injuries
    Ferguson - I'm not sure here becasue he did come on strong late in the season but it's possible
    Adrian Peterson - Just kidding

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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    I'll start with a short list...
    Troy Williamson
    Jeff Dugan
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide)
    Mewelde Moore
    Dwight Smith
    Tank Williams

    Others?
    Troy Williamson - Agree
    Jeff Dugan - Not sure but the way Garrett Mills looked last night I have to agree
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide) - Holcomb is gone
    Mewelde Moore - Unfortunately true but I hope he gets resigned
    Dwight Smith - See ya!
    He had a good year but he doesn't see eye to eye with Childress (off the field issues)
    Tank Williams - Unfortunately he hasn't had the chance to play because of injuries but I have to agree.

    I would add to the list:

    Darion Scott - Seems to have too much of an ego and the marijuana incident didn't help much
    Mike Doss - Maybe too many injuries
    Ferguson - I'm not sure here becasue he did come on strong late in the season but it's possible
    Adrian Peterson - Just kidding
    So you want to get rid of 3 safeties?
    I can't say I understand...
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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    "LuckyVike" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    I'll start with a short list...
    Troy Williamson
    Jeff Dugan
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide)
    Mewelde Moore
    Dwight Smith
    Tank Williams

    Others?
    Troy Williamson - Agree
    Jeff Dugan - Not sure but the way Garrett Mills looked last night I have to agree
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide) - Holcomb is gone
    Mewelde Moore - Unfortunately true but I hope he gets resigned
    Dwight Smith - See ya!
    He had a good year but he doesn't see eye to eye with Childress (off the field issues)
    Tank Williams - Unfortunately he hasn't had the chance to play because of injuries but I have to agree.

    I would add to the list:

    Darion Scott - Seems to have too much of an ego and the marijuana incident didn't help much
    Mike Doss - Maybe too many injuries
    Ferguson - I'm not sure here becasue he did come on strong late in the season but it's possible
    Adrian Peterson - Just kidding
    So you want to get rid of 3 safeties?
    I can't say I understand...
    Safety could be the one thing that if we had two bonafied studs back there behind Winfield and Griffin, We would have the worst pass defense in the leaugue.
    When Corners are confident in their safeties they tend to play much better.
    Even Smoot plays better when he has quality safeties behind him.
    I am not saying Sharper and Smith aren't good, I am saying they have both lost a step or two and they have seen their better days.
    Four score and seven years ago, Brad Childress has brought upon this team, a west coast offense, conceived in San Francisco, and Dedicated to be a Kick jiggly butt offence. We are now engaged in an NFL season, testing weather that offense can get going or that our defense can long endure.

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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    I'll start with my short list... Add or delete yours
    Troy Williamson
    Jeff Dugan
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Or both - Can't decide)
    Mewelde Moore
    Dwight Smith
    Tank Williams

    Others?
    Dugan it all depends on how they want to use him. He has been one of those players that has hung around for a reason. Not sure if he goes or not.

    Both Bollinger and Holcomb will be gone.

    Mewelde Moore I think they should keep. If The Vikings are not going to use Alison as the KR/PR then why not MM. He has done a decent job when he has done it but it has been KR/PR by rotation.

    Tank and Doss should of been Gone long ago. I was upset when they let Greg Blue Go to keep both these guys on the roster. Blue was not a starter but filled in nicely when needed and was healthy.

    T-Won't see ya!
    Whitaker Will be gone.
    at least one of our OL will. My guess would be Marcus Johnson, or Hicks. Cook will stay but will be used as a back up center and be groomed to take over for Birk eventually. But could play T if needed in a emergency.

    Erasmus James his career is over unfortunatly because of his injuries.

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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    Not that I would want it to happen and it might be a mistake depending upon who the get but I could see Hester being involved in some sort of deal. The 2 headed monster at RB can work two way. You can have like we have now. Or you could get one of those big Bruising Backs to complement AD. A back that could just pound and pound out yards as a pile move and then let Ad Run all over.

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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    "LuckyVike" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    I'll start with a short list...
    Troy Williamson
    Jeff Dugan
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide)
    Mewelde Moore
    Dwight Smith
    Tank Williams

    Others?
    Troy Williamson - Agree
    Jeff Dugan - Not sure but the way Garrett Mills looked last night I have to agree
    Kelly Holcomb or Brooks Bollinger (Can't decide) - Holcomb is gone
    Mewelde Moore - Unfortunately true but I hope he gets resigned
    Dwight Smith - See ya!
    He had a good year but he doesn't see eye to eye with Childress (off the field issues)
    Tank Williams - Unfortunately he hasn't had the chance to play because of injuries but I have to agree.

    I would add to the list:

    Darion Scott - Seems to have too much of an ego and the marijuana incident didn't help much
    Mike Doss - Maybe too many injuries
    Ferguson - I'm not sure here becasue he did come on strong late in the season but it's possible
    Adrian Peterson - Just kidding
    So you want to get rid of 3 safeties?
    I can't say I understand...
    You bring up a great point.
    I never said I wanted to get rid of anybody.
    The thread asks who may or may not get cut or traded.
    Honestly I didn't take any position in mind so thank you for that feedback.
    I based my thoughts on a player by player basis only.
    However, if you look at the players I typed, how much of a differnce will it make?
    Besides Smith, neither of the other two actually made enough of a contribution so that is why they were included in my list.
    As far as Smith is concerned we all know he's not at the top of Childress' favorites list.
    I like all 3.
    Smith, Doss and Tank and if anyone would stay it would most likely be Doss since he and Frazier have a history.
    I do see the Vikings drafting a Safety as a high priority.

    Does that explain?

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    Re: Who's gonna get cut or traded (or not renewed) in 2008?

    Here are some potential Cap Casualties:

    WR Troy Williamson; has 2 yrs left, my numbers show no cap releif if cut before june 1st, but the team would save $910k after june 1st, not it could be more if the bonus he is due is indeed in a roster bonus, in which not giving it to him, would result in him being cut, and the money would be saved. But for 2008 the vikes save 910k and for 2009 they save over $1.4m. But it would prolly be more since he has roster bonuses due to him.

    S Dwight Smith; has 1 yr left, and if cut before march 1st, when he is due i beleive a 600k roster bonus, the team saves his entire 3.1m salary, since the roster bonuses if conitigent on him being on the team in march.

    QB Kelly Holcomb; saves the team $1.535m since he has no bonuses due, as he was traded for.

    QB Brooks Bollinger; saves the team $950k, since he has no bonus due(I just found out that he has no bonus due in 08)

    TE Jeff Dugan; has 4 yrs left, and would save the team $625k after june 1st, but only around 65k before june 1st.

    DE Erasmus James; has 2yr's left, and had no Signng Bonus in his deal, so i thik they save most of his 2008 salary, they did give him a $4.91m OPtion Bonus last yr, which was pro rated, so the team would only eat the pro rated amount of $1.115m before june 1st, or $2.091m after june 1st

    As for Moore, Whitacker, Scott, T.Williams, they are all FA's, so they count 0 against the cap.

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