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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Quote Originally Posted by "Sajid28" #1087377
    id consider taking him in the 4th round.. hes to much of a project player. id never spend a 1st round pick on a project.
    Where you take Mallet?
    Because his footwork needs to be broken down and redeveloped.
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    Locker? Who has run a Pro offense for 1 year and looked bad doing so.

    The kid is fast, with an elite build for a Qb, a Great Arm and above average accuracy. Again, he was playing a very good Ducks team and still have a decent game, while all the other Qbs that you might rank above him were home watching.

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Quote Originally Posted by "kevoncox" #1087382
    Quote Originally Posted by "Sajid28" #1087377
    id consider taking him in the 4th round.. hes to much of a project player. id never spend a 1st round pick on a project.
    Where you take Mallet?
    Because his footwork needs to be broken down and redeveloped.
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    Locker? Who has run a Pro offense for 1 year and looked bad doing so.

    The kid is fast, with an elite build for a Qb, a Great Arm and above average accuracy. Again, he was playing a very good Ducks team and still have a decent game, while all the other Qbs that you might rank above him were home watching.
    +1 Ducks are good

    Not like he was facing the effin Gophs and sucked

    Im not understanding the hate.. He isnt going to be the first overall pick.. He wasn't supposed to be the elite prospect coming out and absolutely murder anyone in his way

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Typical "athletic ,mobile" QB. He had to have x rays today because instead of standing in the pocket and running an offense he is a running back that passes once in a while and the beating he takes will keep him from being a long term nfl qb.

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087392
    Typical "athletic ,mobile" QB. He had to have x rays today because instead of standing in the pocket and running an offense he is a running back that passes once in a while and the beating he takes will keep him from being a long term nfl qb.

    1. Ya he got hurt.. That is a risk of a mobile QB.. Heard it ALL year with Vick

    2. He is actually very good at passing.. Not a "RB that passes sometimes" He just happens to have athletic ability both running AND passing.. And his mechanics are horrible like Tebow coming out

    3. No saying if he develops his pocket passing skills.. What he did at AUBURN WORKED.. If the team that decides to draft him wants to hone his skills at becoming more of a pocket passer I think he can be more like the Aaron Rodgers mold..

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087392
    Typical "athletic ,mobile" QB. He had to have x rays today because instead of standing in the pocket and running an offense he is a running back that passes once in a while and the beating he takes will keep him from being a long term nfl qb.

    1. Ya he got hurt.. That is a risk of a mobile QB.. Heard it ALL year with Vick

    2. He is actually very good at passing.. Not a "RB that passes sometimes" He just happens to have athletic ability both running AND passing.. And his mechanics are horrible like Tebow coming out

    3. No saying if he develops his pocket passing skills.. What he did at AUBURN WORKED.. If the team that decides to draft him wants to hone his skills at becoming more of a pocket passer I think he can be more like the Aaron Rodgers mold..
    Rodgers is a terrible example.

    You can't say he is good at passing and then say his mechanics suck. There are bazillions of QBs that can pass in college that never see the light of day in the pros and that is because it is more mental than physical.

    I love him as a college player. he is exciting and he has the whole university eating out of his hands. He has electrified the entire campus and that is rare.

    But in the pros you need to be able to stand in the pocket and stay healthy..this I see as a oroblem for him and unless chilly drsfts him he wont get 5 years to develop.

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Quote Originally Posted by "purplepat" #1087350
    Got to admit, I don't watch much college football. But, given the Vikings plausible need to draft a "franchise" QB in the first round this offseason, I watched bits and pieces of some of the bowl games.

    Watched roughly the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the BCS title game to see Cam Newton. Frankly, I wasn't impressed at all. Most of his throws were little dump offs of 10 yards or less, and I suspect a lot of his passing yardage came on yards after the catch. He made a single read, and if that wasn't there, he'd take off running. I didn't see anything that implied he could successfully drop back, stand in the pocket, make multiple reads and find an open receiver. The offensive scheme looked gimmicky at best.

    The guy looks like a project to me, certainly not a guy that we could expect to take the opening day snaps in 2011. Frankly, it might take 2 or 3 seasons before this guy looks like an NFL QB. I might take him in the 4th round, but not at #12.

    Thoughts?
    Why wouldn't they run that offense with him? He is the best athlete on the field and they scored 40+ points a game with it. Doesn't mean he can't run a pro style offense. You can't really fault him and his coaches for going out to, you know, win a championship.

    He will need to learn a pro style offense but you can't really say for sure how long it'll take him to pick up. Bradford played pretty well after coming from a spread system in college that didn't ask him to make very many reads and he looks well on his way already to a good career.

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087392
    Typical "athletic ,mobile" QB. He had to have x rays today because instead of standing in the pocket and running an offense he is a running back that passes once in a while and the beating he takes will keep him from being a long term nfl qb.
    There have already been plenty of "athletic mobile" quarterbacks succeeding in pro football and having long careers as well. Vick, Cunningham, McNair, McNabb, Steve Young, Tarkenton, hell even Staubach came from an option attack going to the pros. Pretty good list in my opinion.

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    As an avid Auburn fan, I would love for Cam Newton to be in purple and gold next year, in fact - I'm hoping for it!

    He did, however, dissapoint in the BCS championship game. If that is the only time you've seen him, you really haven't been able to appreciate how good of a QB he is. He can put the ball anywhere, anytime, but he obviously didn't show this during the game.

    However, he did make some big throws and put 200+ yards on the #2 team in the nation...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIkMMW5TU4

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Quote Originally Posted by "Brazilian Rider" #1087436
    As an avid Auburn fan, I would love for Cam Newton to be in purple and gold next year, in fact - I'm hoping for it!

    He did, however, dissapoint in the BCS championship game. If that is the only time you've seen him, you really haven't been able to appreciate how good of a QB he is. He can put the ball anywhere, anytime, but he obviously didn't show this during the game.

    However, he did make some big throws and put 200+ yards on the #2 team in the nation...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIkMMW5TU4
    Video wasn't impressive. I watched Pat White do the same thing for WVU for a number of years.

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Brazilian Rider" #1087436
    As an avid Auburn fan, I would love for Cam Newton to be in purple and gold next year, in fact - I'm hoping for it!

    He did, however, dissapoint in the BCS championship game. If that is the only time you've seen him, you really haven't been able to appreciate how good of a QB he is. He can put the ball anywhere, anytime, but he obviously didn't show this during the game.

    However, he did make some big throws and put 200+ yards on the #2 team in the nation...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIkMMW5TU4
    Video wasn't impressive. I watched Pat White do the same thing for WVU for a number of years.
    Did you really just try to compare Pat White to Cam Newton?

    You either have short memory or are just lying. White never threw even close to what Newton has done. Hell, White never broke 1,900 yards passing in a season and his passing efficiency rating never broke 159.7. Pat White also never has as many yards rushing. White never won a national championship either.

    He is also six inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter.

    In short ... Comparing Pat White to Cam Newton is an absolute joke.

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    Re: Wasn't impressed by Newton in BCS Title game

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087445
    Quote Originally Posted by "Freakout" #1087442
    Quote Originally Posted by "Brazilian Rider" #1087436
    As an avid Auburn fan, I would love for Cam Newton to be in purple and gold next year, in fact - I'm hoping for it!

    He did, however, dissapoint in the BCS championship game. If that is the only time you've seen him, you really haven't been able to appreciate how good of a QB he is. He can put the ball anywhere, anytime, but he obviously didn't show this during the game.

    However, he did make some big throws and put 200+ yards on the #2 team in the nation...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIkMMW5TU4
    Video wasn't impressive. I watched Pat White do the same thing for WVU for a number of years.
    Did you really just try to compare Pat White to Cam Newton?

    You either have short memory or are just lying. White never threw even close to what Newton has done. Hell, White never broke 1,900 yards passing in a season and his passing efficiency rating never broke 159.7. Pat White also never has as many yards rushing. White never won a national championship either.

    He is also six inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter.

    In short ... Comparing Pat White to Cam Newton is an absolute joke.
    Oh I'm not lying at all and I fail to understand what measurements has to do with the style a guy plays.

    White didn't throw as much with Rich Rodrigez coaching. He also had Steve Slaton in the backfield as well as Owen Schmidt who also got carries.

    Still both guys are run first, pass second, quarterbacks. Just because Newton has a stronger arm and more size doesn't matter much because in the NFL Newton will get crushed trying to run the way he does. Just ask Vick.

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