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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    I like this signing quite a bit, but would have liked it much more paired with signing James Jones or Malcom Floyd.

    I think that the staff is banking on Bernard Berrian getting back to productive. Not superstar, but productive. And that may be asking too much from a guy who seems happy to just be stealing money.

    If Berrian is completely healthy and ready to go then Berrian, Harvin, Jenkins and Aromashodu is not a terrible foursome with the addition of Kyle Rudolph.

    Harvin is a MUCH better receiver than many on here give him credit for and could really have a special year with McNabb.

    Again, I would still like to see us pursue Floyd, but it does not appear we will do so.

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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)

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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102347
    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)
    Well if the box is stacked couldn't a number 2 or 3 wide out easily get open?
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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "VikesFan787" #1102348
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102347
    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)
    Well if the box is stacked couldn't a number 2 or 3 wide out easily get open?

    Look again at our #2 & #3 receivers. How well did they do last year?

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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102352
    Quote Originally Posted by "VikesFan787" #1102348
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102347
    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)
    Well if the box is stacked couldn't a number 2 or 3 wide out easily get open?

    Look again at our #2 & #3 receivers. How well did they do last year?
    True.. but look at the year prior to Favre getting here.. Berrian had some nice catches/plays when he was healthy. Not saying he'll have the same level of production.. but that's what the staff is planning on, I'm sure.
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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    As long as our O-Line play solid our receivers will be fine (I think)

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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    I like the signing. He is an athletic guy. Yeah he may not replace rice but who says we need to. The last time we tried to "replace" a great reciever we had, aka Randy Moss, we strethed and ended up with Troy Williamson... So having said that lets just keep bringing in the athletes and see how we can use them. Jenkins has great hands. Lets see how it works out.
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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102347
    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)
    The box will be stacked, but that is going to be fine. With the 2 TE sets and AD in the backfield, McNabb and Ponder can use their play-action rollout ability to throw a bunch of TD's. Let them stack the box and stop the run. the play-action (a McNabb/Ponder specialty) will hurt them with our TE's.

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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "gamecocksbaseball31" #1102481
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102347
    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)
    The box will be stacked, but that is going to be fine. With the 2 TE sets and AD in the backfield, McNabb and Ponder can use their play-action rollout ability to throw a bunch of TD's. Let them stack the box and stop the run. the play-action (a McNabb/Ponder specialty) will hurt them with our TE's.
    The box has always been, and will always be stacked.

    The key is knowing were the "Stacker" is and going to the opposite side of him when you run or exposing the zone vacated by the stacker when passing.

    To date, we've done pretty good running against stacked boxes. In 09 we did pretty good passing against them. I anticipate that we will do the same in 11.
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    Re: Vikings sign WR Michael Jenkins

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1102489
    Quote Originally Posted by "gamecocksbaseball31" #1102481
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102347
    Quote Originally Posted by "CPonderFan" #1102297
    Quote Originally Posted by "iowa" #1102294
    I like it, I recall picking up another slow, possesion receiver from Ohio State off of the scrap heap, that one turned out OK.
    I couldnt agree more. Keep in mind that we are going to be using a 2 TE set alot this season. Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets alot, with some serious ground and pound. Ill be the first to say it....last year of his contract...2 TE sets...Musgrave....Peterson is going to break Dickersons single season rushing record and Gherhart is going to have a solid sophmore season providing they can stay healthy

    Problem is, Shiancoe and Rudy are going to be primary targets in an area of the field that is "stacked" with defenders defending for AD & the run.

    It's going to be tough for them to get open without a consistent & real deep threat pulling defenders out of the box. (See 2010 without Rice or Moss)
    The box will be stacked, but that is going to be fine. With the 2 TE sets and AD in the backfield, McNabb and Ponder can use their play-action rollout ability to throw a bunch of TD's. Let them stack the box and stop the run. the play-action (a McNabb/Ponder specialty) will hurt them with our TE's.
    The box has always been, and will always be stacked.

    The key is knowing were the "Stacker" is and going to the opposite side of him when you run or exposing the zone vacated by the stacker when passing.

    To date, we've done pretty good running against stacked boxes. In 09 we did pretty good passing against them. I anticipate that we will do the same in 11.
    A man with a clue. As long as we have Peterson, the defense has to stack the box or get creamed.
    That's a limitation for the defense in reality. I don't think we had the offensive ability or creativity to take advantage of that with the previous coaching staff, but think we may now.

    Saw just a glimpse of a few things they worked on the first day of training camp and was encouraged. It is definately different.
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