Thread: Vikings - Rookie visits starting to take shape

"JerBearLuvsDaVikes" wrote:

Limas Sweed is not lasting that long....If the Bears want him they're gonna have to take him with their 1st round pick and I don't see that happening...

You could be right.
You got any analysis on that or is that your gut feeling?

[size=13pt]Louisville QB Brohm to visit[/size]

March 19th, 2008 – 1:06 PM

by Kevin Seifert
startribune.com


As the Vikings entertain free agent QB Gus Frerotte on a visit today, they continue to make plans for draft-eligible quarterbacks to make their way to Winter Park.....

"singersp" wrote:

[size=13pt]Louisville QB Brohm to visit[/size]

March 19th, 2008 – 1:06 PM

by Kevin Seifert
startribune.com


As the Vikings entertain free agent QB Gus Frerotte on a visit today, they continue to make plans for draft-eligible quarterbacks to make their way to Winter Park.....

What, say it isn't so........!!!!!


Isn't the Chiller calling all the shots and isn't he married to BB and TJ?

Sarcasim off.
;D

I wonder how far this kid will slide?
At first I thought that even this weak class of QB's would go higher than expected because of the lack of talent at the QB position in the NFL but it seems this class will continue to slide down the boards instead of going up as I previously predicted.

Truth of the matter is that it appears we might have a decent guy not only sitting there at 48 but in the 3rd as well.

Yeah, there is a lot of QB potential in this draft, and that is great news for Vikes Fans!
I wonder how many teams will be pushed by the whole 60+ starting QBs last year to draft some depth there...?

So far I've seen us looking at/talking to: Flacco, Ryan, Brohm, and I believe the list is growing.
How many do we get to bring in for "the interview?"

"Marrdro" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

[size=13pt]Louisville QB Brohm to visit[/size]

March 19th, 2008 – 1:06 PM

by Kevin Seifert
startribune.com


As the Vikings entertain free agent QB Gus Frerotte on a visit today, they continue to make plans for draft-eligible quarterbacks to make their way to Winter Park.....

What, say it isn't so........!!!!!



Isn't the Chiller calling all the shots and isn't he married to BB and TJ?

Sarcasim off.

;D

I wonder how far this kid will slide?
At first I thought that even this weak class of QB's would go higher than expected because of the lack of talent at the QB position in the NFL but it seems this class will continue to slide down the boards instead of going up as I previously predicted.

Truth of the matter is that it appears we might have a decent guy not only sitting there at 48 but in the 3rd as well.

if he looks good we should grab him with our 2nd if he is there
i dont like the idea of gettin a qb in the 1st rd

"Marrdro" wrote:

"MaxVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Let the smoke screens commence.

I love the way this front office works the offseason, however, they aren't fooling me with the Flacco kid.
They will get some Booty at 74.

74 Vikings (Broncos) John David Booty, QB

I live in Delaware, 10 minutes from the campus.
Just took my 16-yr old daughter on a campus visit, courtesy of the AD.
My take, after grilling with questions, the Vikes interest in Flacco is real.
That said, I can't see them pulling a #2 on him, which is probably what it will take.
However, as you've stated, the state of QB in the NFL is deficient, elevating prospective draft picks and desperation for many teams.
I like Booty at the 74 slot and think it would be a fine choice...like Flacco there too, if he's around, don't think he will be.

In fact, I like booty alot
8)

When I look at how the players come off the board (my guess anyways) based on team needs and BPA Flacco is available at 48 but so will a good OT like Cherilus and a WR like Devin Thomas.
Because they took care of DE concerns at 17 they could go alot of ways the rest of the draft.
Here I think they go with the OT because of McKinnies issues and get Booty with one of thier 3rds.

1 Dolphins Chris Long, DE
2 Rams Jake Long, OT
3 Falcons Glen Dorsey, DT
4 Raiders Darren McFadden, RB
5 Chiefs Cedric Ellist, DT
6 Jets Vernon Gholston, DE
7 Patriots(49ers) Ryan Clady, OT
8 Ravens Matt Ryan, QB
9 Bengals Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB
10 Saints Keith Rivers, LB
11 Bills Malcomb Kelly, WR
12 Broncos DeSean Jackson, WR
13 Panthers Johnathan Stewart, RB
14 Bears Brian Brohm, QB
15 Lions Dan Conner, LB
16 Cardinals Mike Jenkins, CB
17 Vikings Phillip Merling , DE
18 Texans Rashard Mendenhall, RB
19 Eagles Jeff Otah, OT
20 Buccaneers Aqip Talib, CB
21 Redskins Kenny Phillips, S
22 Cowboys (Browns) Early Doucet, WR
23 Steelers Brandon Albert, OG
24 Titans Calais Campbell, DE
25 Seahawks James Hardy, WR
26 Jaguars Leodis McKelvin, CB
27 Chargers Chris Williams, OT
28 Cowboys Felix Jones, RB
29 49'rs (Colts) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
30 Packers Antoine Cason, CB
31 Patriots Forfiet
32 Giants Anthony Collins, OT
Round 2 Pick
33 Dolphins Sam Baker, OT
34 Rams Quenton Groves, OLB/DE
35 Raiders Kentwan Balmer, DT
36 Chiefs Reggie Smith, CB/S
37 Falcons Chad Henne, QB
38 Jets Mario Manningham, WR
39 Ravens Ali Highsmith, OLB
40 49ers Xavier Adibi, OLB
41 Saints Fred Davis, TE
42 Bills Andre Caldwell, WR
43 Broncos Pat Sims, DT
44 Panthers Lawrence Jackson, DE
45 Bears Limas Sweed, WR
46 Lions Trevor Laws, DT
47 Bengals Tracy Porter, CB
48 Vikings Gosder Cherilus, OT
49 Falcons (Texans) Joe Flacco, QB
50 Eagles Devin Thomas, WR

I don't think Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is going to last anywhere near this far. I hope we take him if he is there at 17...Then go DE..DE..QB.

"SW" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"MaxVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Let the smoke screens commence.

I love the way this front office works the offseason, however, they aren't fooling me with the Flacco kid.

They will get some Booty at 74.

74 Vikings (Broncos) John David Booty, QB

I live in Delaware, 10 minutes from the campus.
Just took my 16-yr old daughter on a campus visit, courtesy of the AD.
My take, after grilling with questions, the Vikes interest in Flacco is real.
That said, I can't see them pulling a #2 on him, which is probably what it will take.
However, as you've stated, the state of QB in the NFL is deficient, elevating prospective draft picks and desperation for many teams.
I like Booty at the 74 slot and think it would be a fine choice...like Flacco there too, if he's around, don't think he will be.

In fact, I like booty alot
8)

When I look at how the players come off the board (my guess anyways) based on team needs and BPA Flacco is available at 48 but so will a good OT like Cherilus and a WR like Devin Thomas.
Because they took care of DE concerns at 17 they could go alot of ways the rest of the draft.
Here I think they go with the OT because of McKinnies issues and get Booty with one of thier 3rds.

1 Dolphins Chris Long, DE
2 Rams Jake Long, OT
3 Falcons Glen Dorsey, DT
4 Raiders Darren McFadden, RB
5 Chiefs Cedric Ellist, DT
6 Jets Vernon Gholston, DE
7 Patriots(49ers) Ryan Clady, OT
8 Ravens Matt Ryan, QB
9 Bengals Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB
10 Saints Keith Rivers, LB
11 Bills Malcomb Kelly, WR
12 Broncos DeSean Jackson, WR
13 Panthers Johnathan Stewart, RB
14 Bears Brian Brohm, QB
15 Lions Dan Conner, LB
16 Cardinals Mike Jenkins, CB
17 Vikings Phillip Merling , DE
18 Texans Rashard Mendenhall, RB
19 Eagles Jeff Otah, OT
20 Buccaneers Aqip Talib, CB
21 Redskins Kenny Phillips, S
22 Cowboys (Browns) Early Doucet, WR
23 Steelers Brandon Albert, OG
24 Titans Calais Campbell, DE
25 Seahawks James Hardy, WR
26 Jaguars Leodis McKelvin, CB
27 Chargers Chris Williams, OT
28 Cowboys Felix Jones, RB
29 49'rs (Colts) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
30 Packers Antoine Cason, CB
31 Patriots Forfiet
32 Giants Anthony Collins, OT
Round 2 Pick
33 Dolphins Sam Baker, OT
34 Rams Quenton Groves, OLB/DE
35 Raiders Kentwan Balmer, DT
36 Chiefs Reggie Smith, CB/S
37 Falcons Chad Henne, QB
38 Jets Mario Manningham, WR
39 Ravens Ali Highsmith, OLB
40 49ers Xavier Adibi, OLB
41 Saints Fred Davis, TE
42 Bills Andre Caldwell, WR
43 Broncos Pat Sims, DT
44 Panthers Lawrence Jackson, DE
45 Bears Limas Sweed, WR
46 Lions Trevor Laws, DT
47 Bengals Tracy Porter, CB
48 Vikings Gosder Cherilus, OT
49 Falcons (Texans) Joe Flacco, QB
50 Eagles Devin Thomas, WR

I don't think Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is going to last anywhere near this far. I hope we take him if he is there at 17...Then go DE..DE..QB.

we dont need to average DEs, we need one good/great one
and DRC will be lucky to make it outta the top 10 picks

"SW" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"MaxVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Let the smoke screens commence.

I love the way this front office works the offseason, however, they aren't fooling me with the Flacco kid.
They will get some Booty at 74.

74 Vikings (Broncos) John David Booty, QB

I live in Delaware, 10 minutes from the campus.
Just took my 16-yr old daughter on a campus visit, courtesy of the AD.
My take, after grilling with questions, the Vikes interest in Flacco is real.
That said, I can't see them pulling a #2 on him, which is probably what it will take.
However, as you've stated, the state of QB in the NFL is deficient, elevating prospective draft picks and desperation for many teams.
I like Booty at the 74 slot and think it would be a fine choice...like Flacco there too, if he's around, don't think he will be.

In fact, I like booty alot
8)

When I look at how the players come off the board (my guess anyways) based on team needs and BPA Flacco is available at 48 but so will a good OT like Cherilus and a WR like Devin Thomas.
Because they took care of DE concerns at 17 they could go alot of ways the rest of the draft.
Here I think they go with the OT because of McKinnies issues and get Booty with one of thier 3rds.

1 Dolphins Chris Long, DE
2 Rams Jake Long, OT
3 Falcons Glen Dorsey, DT
4 Raiders Darren McFadden, RB
5 Chiefs Cedric Ellist, DT
6 Jets Vernon Gholston, DE
7 Patriots(49ers) Ryan Clady, OT
8 Ravens Matt Ryan, QB
9 Bengals Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB
10 Saints Keith Rivers, LB
11 Bills Malcomb Kelly, WR
12 Broncos DeSean Jackson, WR
13 Panthers Johnathan Stewart, RB
14 Bears Brian Brohm, QB
15 Lions Dan Conner, LB
16 Cardinals Mike Jenkins, CB
17 Vikings Phillip Merling , DE
18 Texans Rashard Mendenhall, RB
19 Eagles Jeff Otah, OT
20 Buccaneers Aqip Talib, CB
21 Redskins Kenny Phillips, S
22 Cowboys (Browns) Early Doucet, WR
23 Steelers Brandon Albert, OG
24 Titans Calais Campbell, DE
25 Seahawks James Hardy, WR
26 Jaguars Leodis McKelvin, CB
27 Chargers Chris Williams, OT
28 Cowboys Felix Jones, RB
29 49'rs (Colts) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
30 Packers Antoine Cason, CB
31 Patriots Forfiet
32 Giants Anthony Collins, OT
Round 2 Pick
33 Dolphins Sam Baker, OT
34 Rams Quenton Groves, OLB/DE
35 Raiders Kentwan Balmer, DT
36 Chiefs Reggie Smith, CB/S
37 Falcons Chad Henne, QB
38 Jets Mario Manningham, WR
39 Ravens Ali Highsmith, OLB
40 49ers Xavier Adibi, OLB
41 Saints Fred Davis, TE
42 Bills Andre Caldwell, WR
43 Broncos Pat Sims, DT
44 Panthers Lawrence Jackson, DE
45 Bears Limas Sweed, WR
46 Lions Trevor Laws, DT
47 Bengals Tracy Porter, CB
48 Vikings Gosder Cherilus, OT
49 Falcons (Texans) Joe Flacco, QB
50 Eagles Devin Thomas, WR

I don't think Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is going to last anywhere near this far. I hope we take him if he is there at 17...Then go DE..DE..QB.

yeah DRC will not be there

"DustinDupont" wrote:

"SW" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"MaxVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Let the smoke screens commence.

I love the way this front office works the offseason, however, they aren't fooling me with the Flacco kid.

They will get some Booty at 74.

74 Vikings (Broncos) John David Booty, QB

I live in Delaware, 10 minutes from the campus.
Just took my 16-yr old daughter on a campus visit, courtesy of the AD.
My take, after grilling with questions, the Vikes interest in Flacco is real.
That said, I can't see them pulling a #2 on him, which is probably what it will take.
However, as you've stated, the state of QB in the NFL is deficient, elevating prospective draft picks and desperation for many teams.
I like Booty at the 74 slot and think it would be a fine choice...like Flacco there too, if he's around, don't think he will be.

In fact, I like booty alot
8)

When I look at how the players come off the board (my guess anyways) based on team needs and BPA Flacco is available at 48 but so will a good OT like Cherilus and a WR like Devin Thomas.
Because they took care of DE concerns at 17 they could go alot of ways the rest of the draft.
Here I think they go with the OT because of McKinnies issues and get Booty with one of thier 3rds.

1 Dolphins Chris Long, DE
2 Rams Jake Long, OT
3 Falcons Glen Dorsey, DT
4 Raiders Darren McFadden, RB
5 Chiefs Cedric Ellist, DT
6 Jets Vernon Gholston, DE
7 Patriots(49ers) Ryan Clady, OT
8 Ravens Matt Ryan, QB
9 Bengals Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB
10 Saints Keith Rivers, LB
11 Bills Malcomb Kelly, WR
12 Broncos DeSean Jackson, WR
13 Panthers Johnathan Stewart, RB
14 Bears Brian Brohm, QB
15 Lions Dan Conner, LB
16 Cardinals Mike Jenkins, CB
17 Vikings Phillip Merling , DE
18 Texans Rashard Mendenhall, RB
19 Eagles Jeff Otah, OT
20 Buccaneers Aqip Talib, CB
21 Redskins Kenny Phillips, S
22 Cowboys (Browns) Early Doucet, WR
23 Steelers Brandon Albert, OG
24 Titans Calais Campbell, DE
25 Seahawks James Hardy, WR
26 Jaguars Leodis McKelvin, CB
27 Chargers Chris Williams, OT
28 Cowboys Felix Jones, RB
29 49'rs (Colts) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB
30 Packers Antoine Cason, CB
31 Patriots Forfiet
32 Giants Anthony Collins, OT
Round 2 Pick
33 Dolphins Sam Baker, OT
34 Rams Quenton Groves, OLB/DE
35 Raiders Kentwan Balmer, DT
36 Chiefs Reggie Smith, CB/S
37 Falcons Chad Henne, QB
38 Jets Mario Manningham, WR
39 Ravens Ali Highsmith, OLB
40 49ers Xavier Adibi, OLB
41 Saints Fred Davis, TE
42 Bills Andre Caldwell, WR
43 Broncos Pat Sims, DT
44 Panthers Lawrence Jackson, DE
45 Bears Limas Sweed, WR
46 Lions Trevor Laws, DT
47 Bengals Tracy Porter, CB
48 Vikings Gosder Cherilus, OT
49 Falcons (Texans) Joe Flacco, QB
50 Eagles Devin Thomas, WR

I don't think Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is going to last anywhere near this far. I hope we take him if he is there at 17...Then go DE..DE..QB.

yeah DRC will not be there

You guys all say that but to date you haven't given me anything to prove me wrong.
;D

Seriously though.
That draft was made up using the top 100 as put out by USA today. I pull the players off according to were they are ranked.
At that time DRC was ranked behind:

16
Cardinals
Mike Jenkins, CB
20
Buccaneers
Aqip Talib, CB
26
Jaguars
Leodis McKelvin, CB

Additionally, I have 2 newer versions of the top 100 (one is a top 350) that that I pay a small fee for that has the same guys ranked higher than him.

That doesn't mean he won't come off first because he fits a certain scheme better, it just means at that point I pulled according to a value board.

"Marrdro" wrote:

"JerBearLuvsDaVikes" wrote:

Limas Sweed is not lasting that long....If the Bears want him they're gonna have to take him with their 1st round pick and I don't see that happening...

You could be right.
You got any analysis on that or is that your gut feeling?

Read in the paper this morning that Sweed improved his 40 time to 4.4 at their pro day.
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/03/20/0320texfoot.html

Kind of fishy that all the UT guys brought their times down considerably.
Especially Griffin, although his combine timing of 4.76 seemed awfully slow.

I think mid to late first round is likely with this guy as the article says.
So called draft experts seem to be mixed on whether Sweed or Kelly will be the first one selected.