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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

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    typical
    In the 2 seasons that he started, Ryan Cook gave up 13 sacks. And had 13 penalties. Steve Hutchinson only has 13 penalties in his entire career...

    You'll have a hard time finding a worse player with the same amount of starting opportunities that Cook has had. Statistically. See for yourself.

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    Remember Todd Steussie?
    I don't remember Steussie being that bad, but I was pretty young. Hard to remember lineman unless they were All-Pro like Randall McDaniel. But he was a 2 time Pro-Bowler in 7 starting seasons with the Vikings. And only allowed one sack in 1998 when we went 15-1. I have a VERY hard time believing that he was worse than Ryan Cook. But to me, Ryan Cook is the worst Viking I've ever seen start for 2 seasons. He is such a bum. I think of Ryan Cook to the O-line as Hank Baskett was to our receiving core. Worthless, frustrating, replaceable, and waste of a roster spot. I think I might hate this guy as much as you hate McNabb :laugh:

    Sorry Rick! Keep up the good work.

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

    And he is not starting anymore. He is kore than serviceable as a backup o-lineman and has improved tenfold the last two seasons.
    Also, comparing him to Hutch is ridiculous. Hutch is a fucking guard. They never give up a lot of sacks.
    Seriously, what isnthe other option? We need bodies.

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

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    And he is not starting anymore. He is kore than serviceable as a backup o-lineman and has improved tenfold the last two seasons.
    Also, comparing him to Hutch is ridiculous. Hutch is a fucking guard. They never give up a lot of sacks.
    Seriously, what isnthe other option? We need bodies.
    He said we brought him in to play "interior lineman positions". Which would mean guard and a couple reps at Center. He is definitely fair game to compare to Hutch. Especially in terms of penalties.

    Sorry Rick! Keep up the good work.

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

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    And he is not starting anymore. He is kore than serviceable as a backup o-lineman and has improved tenfold the last two seasons.
    Also, comparing him to Hutch is ridiculous. Hutch is a fucking guard. They never give up a lot of sacks.
    Seriously, what isnthe other option? We need bodies.
    He said we brought him in to play "interior lineman positions". Which would mean guard and a couple reps at Center. He is definitely fair game to compare to Hutch. Especially in terms of penalties.
    Yes ... But 95% of the sacks that Cook has given up are as a TACKLE. So, comparing the sack numbers is a joke. Tackles also get called for many more holding and false start penalties than guards.

    I don't see you bagging on Load and his 17 fucking penalties in two years.

    It is clear the Cook struggled quite a bit in his first couple of seasons. But beyond that, as a reserve he has been pretty solid and reliable. Failing to notice that is simply just blind hate.

    Again ... What do you want us to do? Just go out and make the Dolphins give us Jake Long?

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

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    And he is not starting anymore. He is kore than serviceable as a backup o-lineman and has improved tenfold the last two seasons.
    Also, comparing him to Hutch is ridiculous. Hutch is a fucking guard. They never give up a lot of sacks.
    Seriously, what isnthe other option? We need bodies.
    He said we brought him in to play "interior lineman positions". Which would mean guard and a couple reps at Center. He is definitely fair game to compare to Hutch. Especially in terms of penalties.
    Yes ... But 95% of the sacks that Cook has given up are as a TACKLE. So, comparing the sack numbers is a joke. Tackles also get called for many more holding and false start penalties than guards.

    I don't see you bagging on Load and his 17 fucking penalties in two years.

    It is clear the Cook struggled quite a bit in his first couple of seasons. But beyond that, as a reserve he has been pretty solid and reliable. Failing to notice that is simply just blind hate.

    Again ... What do you want us to do? Just go out and make the Dolphins give us Jake Long?
    I didn't mention Loadholt because he has been busting his ass this offseason with Larry Fitzgerald's group. And his results spreak for themselves. He is easily the most improved player coming into practice. I am very confident that he figured out his faults, and got into perfect season shape. As far as "What do you want us to do", I just don't want to start Ryan Cook. I view him as a gigantic liability. I'd like for us to start Chris DeGeare from the beginning of the season. Either him, or Herrera when he gets off the PUP list. I'm fine with Cook backing up Sully at center. I just don't want him to start a game, or play tackle ever again.

    Sorry Rick! Keep up the good work.

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

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    And he is not starting anymore. He is kore than serviceable as a backup o-lineman and has improved tenfold the last two seasons.
    Also, comparing him to Hutch is ridiculous. Hutch is a fucking guard. They never give up a lot of sacks.
    Seriously, what isnthe other option? We need bodies.
    He said we brought him in to play "interior lineman positions". Which would mean guard and a couple reps at Center. He is definitely fair game to compare to Hutch. Especially in terms of penalties.
    Yes ... But 95% of the sacks that Cook has given up are as a TACKLE. So, comparing the sack numbers is a joke. Tackles also get called for many more holding and false start penalties than guards.

    I don't see you bagging on Load and his 17 fucking penalties in two years.

    It is clear the Cook struggled quite a bit in his first couple of seasons. But beyond that, as a reserve he has been pretty solid and reliable. Failing to notice that is simply just blind hate.

    Again ... What do you want us to do? Just go out and make the Dolphins give us Jake Long?
    I didn't mention Loadholt because he has been busting his ass this offseason with Larry Fitzgerald's group. And his results spreak for themselves. He is easily the most improved player coming into practice. I am very confident that he figured out his faults, and got into perfect season shape. As far as "What do you want us to do", I just don't want to start Ryan Cook. I view him as a gigantic liability. I'd like for us to start Chris DeGeare from the beginning of the season. Either him, or Herrera when he gets off the PUP list. I'm fine with Cook backing up Sully at center. I just don't want him to start a game, or play tackle ever again.
    And thats completely agreeable with cook is not a good tackle or even decent, But at Center and Guard hes a good player. This hate needs to be placed where it should be it a classic example of chillys round peg square hole approach. Cook never should ever be out at tackle unless everyone else is injured. But at center hes better than sully and cooper, and since we need all the Oline depth we can i think its a good move

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

    At one point I thought Cook would stand a chance at guard or Center because the close proximity of the defenders would hide his feet of cement and to be fair I actually saw a game or so where he had a few decent play, but then I started to watch him closer and saw him in training camp compared to the other OL and he has 2 things that stand out. His footwork is noticeably slower than the other OL on the team and there are plays both in practice and in games where I see him actually move to avoid contact and that is something you cannot do as an OL. As stated above, he did show promise in one game where he even pulled and made a great down field block and if that would happen consistently instead of being an anomaly then I would be fine keeping him. But you cannot fix cement feet and you cannot have an OL that looks to avoid contact.

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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

    Quote Originally Posted by "kramer9guy" #1103030
    Flame me if you so choose, but I am a Ryan Cook fan. Very versatile and under-rated IMO.

    When everyone used to rip Cook his first and second year for an offside penalty here and there, McKinnie would be costing us just as many yards if not more but I barely heard a peep about McKinnie.

    The real problem on the OL is gone.

    Cook is a great, hardworking and inexpensive utility man on the OL and our coaching staff knows it.

    Good signing.
    You won't find much love for Mr. Cook on this site. Most will automatically tell you they don't understand the OL play but then turn around and tell you how bad a guys sucks.

    In the end, Cook is pretty much despised on here because the Chiller shoved him out at RT long before he was ready.

    Most yutz reporters contend that he did pretty good filling in for Sully last year and is a pretty good swing man when it comes to his ability to fill in at 4 of the 5 OL positions.

    I wouldn't be suprised to see him either at C or atleast at RG this season based on some of the comments around Degeare struggling (he was man handled by Ballard) and Frusco struggling at C.
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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

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    @JuddZulgad: Vikings have agreed to terms to bring back offensive lineman Ryan Cook, who has been on the free agent market.


    Worst news ever :sick:

    I hate this.
    I hate it too. My consolation is at some point he might be called on to block for McChunky and then my odds of winning our bet goes up exponentially.:evil:
    If he starts, McNabb has no chance of finishing a full season. And neither does Adrian Peterson. That's what I hate the most about Cook. When he gets beat, he gets beat BADLY. And that gets players killed.
    Thats like saying when Hutch gets beat he gets beat badly.
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    Re: Vikings re-sign Ryan Cook

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1103045
    And he is not starting anymore. He is kore than serviceable as a backup o-lineman and has improved tenfold the last two seasons.
    Also, comparing him to Hutch is ridiculous. Hutch is a fucking guard. They never give up a lot of sacks.
    Seriously, what isnthe other option? We need bodies.
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