Thread: Vikings Needs Maybe Not So Defined

The defensive line is deep and talented.

Yup. No need to draft high here.

"Marrdro" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

I don't think there are to many on here who would say you are wrong.
The ones that do are just yutz CSA'rs....

By the way, if a deal can't get done before the draft, you might see your coveted CB taken at 22 even with the plethora of talent we currently have on the roster.... ;D

There were a bunch that said I was wrong when I first said it.
;D

I already have his jersey on order.

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

I don't think there are to many on here who would say you are wrong.
The ones that do are just yutz CSA'rs....

By the way, if a deal can't get done before the draft, you might see your coveted CB taken at 22 even with the plethora of talent we currently have on the roster.... ;D

There were a bunch that said I was wrong when I first said it.
;D

I already have his jersey on order.

Still struggling with OT, WR, or CB cause the guy the want to pick (DT) won't be there..... ;D

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

"Zeus" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

That was a major injury. No telling how he will return.

"marstc09" wrote:

"Zeus" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

That was a major injury. No telling how he will return.

Love Chuck to death, however, I will not be suprised if he doesn't come back and continue to progress the way he was.

When a leg sticks out at a funny angle, one would think that is a career ending injury (ala Joe).

"Marrdro" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Zeus" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

That was a major injury. No telling how he will return.

Love Chuck to death, however, I will not be suprised if he doesn't come back and continue to progress the way he was.

When a leg sticks out at a funny angle, one would think that is a career ending injury (ala Joe).

Not neccesarily. Worse to blow out a joint than to suffer a fracture that doesn't invlove the joint.
Either way, I like Gordon as well, but he is a little slow. He is smart and makes the most out of his skills.
I'm pulling for him, but I think an upgrade at nickel would help this team. There is still a place for Gordon on this team even if they do draft a corner.

"jargomcfargo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Zeus" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

[quote author=Marrdro link=topic=51348.msg932598#msg932598 date=1239197281]
[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

That was a major injury. No telling how he will return.

Love Chuck to death, however, I will not be suprised if he doesn't come back and continue to progress the way he was.

When a leg sticks out at a funny angle, one would think that is a career ending injury (ala Joe).

Not neccesarily. Worse to blow out a joint than to suffer a fracture that doesn't invlove the joint.
Either way, I like Gordon as well, but he is a little slow. He is smart and makes the most out of his skills.
I'm pulling for him, but I think an upgrade at nickel would help this team. There is still a place for Gordon on this team even if they do draft a corner.
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Oh for sure. Especially when teams love to pass on us. Teams like AZ like to use the 4 WR set.

"jargomcfargo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Zeus" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

[quote author=Marrdro link=topic=51348.msg932598#msg932598 date=1239197281]
[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

That was a major injury. No telling how he will return.

Love Chuck to death, however, I will not be suprised if he doesn't come back and continue to progress the way he was.

When a leg sticks out at a funny angle, one would think that is a career ending injury (ala Joe).

Not neccesarily. Worse to blow out a joint than to suffer a fracture that doesn't invlove the joint.
Either way, I like Gordon as well, but he is a little slow. He is smart and makes the most out of his skills.
I'm pulling for him, but I think an upgrade at nickel would help this team. There is still a place for Gordon on this team even if they do draft a corner.
[/quote]
Thanks Doc for the clarification.


Some good ones in this draft (all with minor issues) with alot of value in the areas we pick at.
Lets hope, if they burn a pick, they get the right one.
;D

"marstc09" wrote:

"jargomcfargo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"marstc09" wrote:

"Zeus" wrote:

[quote author=marstc09 link=topic=51348.msg932605#msg932605 date=1239198490]
[quote author=Marrdro link=topic=51348.msg932598#msg932598 date=1239197281]
[size=15pt]Assessing the Vikings Needs Entering the Draft[/size]

http://www.vikingsgab.com/2009/04/07...ing-the-draft/

He usually draws the opponents best receiver but is at his best in the slot in the nickel.

Nickel back: ? One of the biggest holes the team has here is the third corner. Who will emerge out of the Karl Paymah, Bennie Saap, and Marcus McCauley trio ? McCauley was a beast in college, but has been a disappointment as a pro.

Saap is usually solid, but has a propensity for shooting himself in the foot with stupid penalties and occasional mental breakdowns. Paymah ? The team signed him for his special teams play and return ability. If he emerges as a coverage corner, that would be an unexpected bonus.

I have been trying to drill this in peoples heads fro a while now. I keep hearing that Winfield is best in the slot. I really think we need to draft a CB in the 1st.

No love for Chuck Gordon?

=Z=

That was a major injury. No telling how he will return.

Love Chuck to death, however, I will not be suprised if he doesn't come back and continue to progress the way he was.

When a leg sticks out at a funny angle, one would think that is a career ending injury (ala Joe).

Not neccesarily. Worse to blow out a joint than to suffer a fracture that doesn't invlove the joint.
Either way, I like Gordon as well, but he is a little slow. He is smart and makes the most out of his skills.
I'm pulling for him, but I think an upgrade at nickel would help this team. There is still a place for Gordon on this team even if they do draft a corner.
[/quote]

Oh for sure. Especially when teams love to pass on us. Teams like AZ like to use the 4 WR set.
[/quote]

Exactly. And we need to counter the Cutler trade with improved pass coverage as well. A great QB can pick on one weak CB. Used to happen to Griffin. And is the reason McCauley doesn't play much anymore.