Thread: Vikings to keep 5 WR's

Originally Posted by "PurpleTide" #1103766

Everyone seems to think that Berrian is a lock to make the team.

Has something to do with the fact that despite the hate here, Berrian actually does have skill, and Fraizer said many, many times he's working Berrian in to be a huge part of our offense. He's not goign anywhere, I guarantee it.

Arceneaux could be the wildcard, if we go with youth, but Camarillo is the backup for Harvin, and could force either Aromashou, or Arceneaux to the practice squad or be cut. We are going with youth this year and JJ is a up and comer with the same exact skill set as BB just younger and less expensive. This is just food for thought but I can see this happening. Thoughts?

Thoughts are Jaymar and Berrian can both return punts. That makes Camarillo very expendable.

Aromashodu is more of an outside receiver, I see HIM as the backup to Berrian, not Jaymar. Jenkins will play the other outside, and if we want to go with speed for certain plays, I see a lineup of Berrian, Harvin and Jaymar as our top-3.

We've got alot of guys with just slightly different skill sets, but I think the top-3 is a lock barring injury. Jaymar pretty much has the #4 spot down, it all comes down to Aromashodu, Camarillo and Arceneaux for that #5 spot.

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103768

Originally Posted by "PurpleTide" #1103766

Everyone seems to think that Berrian is a lock to make the team.

Has something to do with the fact that despite the hate here, Berrian actually does have skill, and Fraizer said many, many times he's working Berrian in to be a huge part of our offense. He's not goign anywhere, I guarantee it.

Arceneaux could be the wildcard, if we go with youth, but Camarillo is the backup for Harvin, and could force either Aromashou, or Arceneaux to the practice squad or be cut. We are going with youth this year and JJ is a up and comer with the same exact skill set as BB just younger and less expensive. This is just food for thought but I can see this happening. Thoughts?

Thoughts are Jaymar and Berrian can both return punts. That makes Camarillo very expendable.

Aromashodu is more of an outside receiver, I see HIM as the backup to Berrian, not Jaymar. Jenkins will play the other outside, and if we want to go with speed for certain plays, I see a lineup of Berrian, Harvin and Jaymar as our top-3.

We've got alot of guys with just slightly different skill sets, but I think the top-3 is a lock barring injury. Jaymar pretty much has the #4 spot down, it all comes down to Aromashodu, Camarillo and Arceneaux for that #5 spot.

Other than your comment that Berrian can return punts, I agree with your stances completely.

Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1103773

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103768

Originally Posted by "PurpleTide" #1103766

Everyone seems to think that Berrian is a lock to make the team.

Has something to do with the fact that despite the hate here, Berrian actually does have skill, and Fraizer said many, many times he's working Berrian in to be a huge part of our offense. He's not goign anywhere, I guarantee it.

Arceneaux could be the wildcard, if we go with youth, but Camarillo is the backup for Harvin, and could force either Aromashou, or Arceneaux to the practice squad or be cut. We are going with youth this year and JJ is a up and comer with the same exact skill set as BB just younger and less expensive. This is just food for thought but I can see this happening. Thoughts?

Thoughts are Jaymar and Berrian can both return punts. That makes Camarillo very expendable.

Aromashodu is more of an outside receiver, I see HIM as the backup to Berrian, not Jaymar. Jenkins will play the other outside, and if we want to go with speed for certain plays, I see a lineup of Berrian, Harvin and Jaymar as our top-3.

We've got alot of guys with just slightly different skill sets, but I think the top-3 is a lock barring injury. Jaymar pretty much has the #4 spot down, it all comes down to Aromashodu, Camarillo and Arceneaux for that #5 spot.

Other than your comment that Berrian can return punts, I agree with your stances completely.

do you not remember the 08 season? He was punt returner while Bobby Wade was hurt. Returned one for a TD as well.

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103776

do you not remember the 08 season? He was punt returner while Bobby Wade was hurt. Returned one for a TD as well.

Do you not remember the 2010 season? He was punt returner and got benched because he sucked and muffed.

=Z=

Originally Posted by "Zeus" #1103777

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103776

do you not remember the 08 season? He was punt returner while Bobby Wade was hurt. Returned one for a TD as well.

Do you not remember the 2010 season? He was punt returner and got benched because he sucked and muffed.

=Z=

nope.

I prefer to pretend that 2010 didn't happen.

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103778

Originally Posted by "Zeus" #1103777

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103776

do you not remember the 08 season? He was punt returner while Bobby Wade was hurt. Returned one for a TD as well.

Do you not remember the 2010 season? He was punt returner and got benched because he sucked and muffed.

nope.

I prefer to pretend that 2010 didn't happen.

You need a new avatar.

=Z=

I think Camarillo is the odd man out. He didn't do anything for us last year and frankly hasn't done much his entire career. It doesn't do much good to have good hands if you're never open.

Originally Posted by "BloodyHorns82" #1103781

I think Camarillo is the odd man out. He didn't do anything for us last year and frankly hasn't done much his entire career. It doesn't do much good to have good hands if you're never open.

Yeah ... I was expecting him to get along with Favre last year and be a solid dump down guy. He really was nothing for us and at this point I could see him getting cut with all the positives I am hearing about JJ from camp.

I think you really need to look at what the staff is going to try to do scheme wise.

Split end (X) Outside/Deep Threat
I, for one don't think we are going to see alot of deep outside stuff (Berrian) so you don't need two of those cats........

Options on the roster....
87 Bernard Berrian WR 30 6-1 185 8 Fresno State
11 Jaymar Johnson WR 27 6-0 176 2 Jackson State
84 Juaquin Iglesias WR 23 6-1 202 1 Oklahoma


As much as I like JJ, not sure if we keep two of these cats right now, BB stays for sure, thats why they had him restructure his contract. JJ seems to be the odd man out when we talk about this position with Iglesias filling in as nothing more than camp fodder (not even in the discussion).

Flanker (Z) Intermediate/Red Zone
First, let me say thats right Rice wasn't the deep threat that some of you think. That was BB even though we didn't throw to him. Did Rice catch alot of extended 5, 6, and 7 routes, yes, but they weren't designed to deep routes. They just wound up that way because of what the QB did behind the line.

Having said that. Who do we have on the roster that can work those zones.

12 Michael Jenkins WR 29 6-4 214 8 Ohio State
16 Emmanuel Arceneaux WR 23 6-2 215 R Alcorn State
9 Dominique Johnson WR 23 6-4 221 R Cal Poly-S.L.O.
84 Juaquin Iglesias WR 23 6-1 202 1 Oklahoma
86 Stephen Burton WR 21 6-1 224 R West Texas A&M
19 Devin Aromashodu WR 27 6-2 201 4 Auburn
81 Andre Holmes WR 23 6-5 208 R Hillsdale

Jenkins is a lock. Iglesias and Aromashodu are interesting, but I really don't see them as physical enough nor do they seem to have the body control to do what Rice did.

My guess.....

Jenkins and Arcenaux make the roster with one, two or all three (Burton, Holmes and Johnson) getting moved to the PS squad if they really impress. So far none of them really have from what I've read.

Slot receiver (Y)Short to Intermediate
Again, when I look at what the staff will try to do in this position, I like what Percy can do, however, I think he is going to take a beating and even though he professes that his migrains are over, they still might happen.......sooooooo , my guess is they might opt to keep a backup for this slot especially considering how often they will go to this guy if a TE or RB isn't in the zone.

Options on the roster
12 Percy Harvin WR 23 5-11 184 3 Florida
85 Greg Camarillo WR 29 6-2 200 6 Stanford
11 Jaymar Johnson WR 27 6-0 176 2 Jackson State

Again, Percy is a lock. Cam isn't really that fast but he is sure handed (even though the Noodle didn't throw to him much). The wild card here is JJ. He has nice size, is pretty damn fast and adds depth as a returner that can actually move the ball. Probably what makes Cam espendable.

In the end, if they do keep five.........Here is my guess.

Starters-Backups:
X - Bernard Berrian - JJ
Z - Michael Jenkins - Arceneaux
Y - Percy Harvin - JJ

Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103921

Flanker (Z) Intermediate/Red Zone
First, let me say thats right Rice wasn't the deep threat that some of you think. That was BB even though we didn't throw to him. Did Rice catch alot of extended 5, 6, and 7 routes, yes, but they weren't designed to deep routes. They just wound up that way because of what the QB did behind the line.

OH so what you're saying is Favre was able to get Rice MORE yards by what he did... Hmmm.