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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "magicci" wrote:
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    "ktarinze" wrote:
    if it is moss we should get him it was stupid to trade him in the 1st place
    it was not stupid
    he wanted out, he was a distraction,
    i liked the trade when it happened, and with the pick that we got with him, who would have known twill would have sucked this bad,
    if we never would have traded him we never would have gotta AD this year, so im glad hes gone and i DONT want him back.
    Moss did not want out. I remember Moss mulling retirement at the time of the trade. He loved the vikes and the fans.
    exactly..what is with all these misinformed fools that have some random thought in their head that moss wanted out? makes zero sense

    aside from that, wilf made it very clear that he wanted moss to remain a viking while he was in negotiations with mccombs to buy the team, something red failed to live up to on his end of the bargain

    he was traded because red mccombs wanted to screw over the vikings franchise and its fans..moss said at the time of the trade that he had no desire to play anywhere but minnesota, and even this year, has said twice that he wouldve loved to have retired a viking and never saw himself playing anywhere but minnesota

    now can people stop with the random statements they pull out of their asses regarding moss?
    People who see life as anything more than pure entertainment are missing the point.

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    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty damn good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats damn good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    People who see life as anything more than pure entertainment are missing the point.

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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "olson_10" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?

    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "olson_10" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are bullshit IMO. Watch the highlights.

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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "olson_10" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726966#msg726966 date=1203736248]
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are kaka del rio IMO. Watch the highlights.
    [/quote]
    I have watched the highlights.
    Pepp wasn't that accurate.
    If he was he would still be playing someplace.

    Do you think CC made all those shoestring catches on the sideline cause he wanted the ball thrown out of bounds or damn near out of bounds....

    Gimme a break.
    Bullshit my ass.
    Those boys made Pepp and you know it.
    ;D
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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
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    "olson_10" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=42554.msg726969#msg726969 date=1203736460]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726966#msg726966 date=1203736248]
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are kaka del rio IMO. Watch the highlights.
    [/quote]
    I have watched the highlights.
    Pepp wasn't that accurate.
    If he was he would still be playing someplace.

    Do you think CC made all those shoestring catches on the sideline cause he wanted the ball thrown out of bounds or gol 'darnit near out of bounds....

    Gimme a break.
    kaka del rio my jiggly butt.
    Those boys made Pepp and you know it.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    Crap, now I gotta chime in. ;D

    Pep was accurate.
    Incredibly accurate to be honest, especially on the long ball.
    His problem was that he couldn't read a defense worth a shit.
    Linehan made Culpepper.
    It certainly didn't hurt that he had a great receiving corps. but I wouldn't say that they made him.
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "olson_10" wrote:
    "SharperImage" wrote:
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=42554.msg726969#msg726969 date=1203736460]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726966#msg726966 date=1203736248]
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are kaka del rio IMO. Watch the highlights.
    [/quote]
    I have watched the highlights.
    Pepp wasn't that accurate.
    If he was he would still be playing someplace.

    Do you think CC made all those shoestring catches on the sideline cause he wanted the ball thrown out of bounds or damn near out of bounds....

    Gimme a break.
    Bullshit my ass.
    Those boys made Pepp and you know it.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    The reply was mainly about people claiming that all the high balls were bad passes. Look at the same scenario with Cunningham, George & Brady. The target was to be above Mosses head. That is where he wanted the ball. Of course QB's aren't going to be dead nuts on all the time.

    Are you trying to insinuate now that Moss made Brady?
    :P

    Show me clips where Moss went 5-10 yards out of his way to the left or right to catch passes.

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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "olson_10" wrote:
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726976#msg726976 date=1203736819]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=42554.msg726969#msg726969 date=1203736460]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726966#msg726966 date=1203736248]
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are kaka del rio IMO. Watch the highlights.
    [/quote]
    I have watched the highlights.
    Pepp wasn't that accurate.
    If he was he would still be playing someplace.

    Do you think CC made all those shoestring catches on the sideline cause he wanted the ball thrown out of bounds or gol 'darnit near out of bounds....

    Gimme a break.
    kaka del rio my jiggly butt.
    Those boys made Pepp and you know it.

    ;D
    [/quote]

    Crap, now I gotta chime in. ;D

    Pep was accurate.
    Incredibly accurate to be honest, especially on the long ball.
    His problem was that he couldn't read a defense worth a pooh.
    Linehan made Culpepper.
    It certainly didn't hurt that he had a great receiving corps. but I wouldn't say that they made him.
    [/quote]
    OK, just because you both say I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

    Pepp couldn't read a defense.
    I will agree with that.
    Moss was fast enough to recover/adjust to whereever Pepp threw it especially on the deep ball and if we had a CC catching the short stuff TJ would be called accurate.

    Damn.
    Feel like I am in a gang bang or something.
    ;D
    ;D
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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=olson_10 link=topic=42554.msg727047#msg727047 date=1203749189]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726976#msg726976 date=1203736819]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=42554.msg726969#msg726969 date=1203736460]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726966#msg726966 date=1203736248]
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are kaka del rio IMO. Watch the highlights.
    [/quote]
    I have watched the highlights.
    Pepp wasn't that accurate.
    If he was he would still be playing someplace.

    Do you think CC made all those shoestring catches on the sideline cause he wanted the ball thrown out of bounds or gol 'darnit near out of bounds....

    Gimme a break.
    kaka del rio my jiggly butt.
    Those boys made Pepp and you know it.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    Crap, now I gotta chime in. ;D

    Pep was accurate.
    Incredibly accurate to be honest, especially on the long ball.
    His problem was that he couldn't read a defense worth a pooh.
    Linehan made Culpepper.
    It certainly didn't hurt that he had a great receiving corps. but I wouldn't say that they made him.
    [/quote]
    OK, just because you both say I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

    Pepp couldn't read a defense.
    I will agree with that.
    Moss was fast enough to recover/adjust to whereever Pepp threw it especially on the deep ball and if we had a CC catching the short stuff TJ would be called accurate.

    Damn.
    Feel like I am in a gang bang or something.
    ;D
    ;D
    ;D
    [/quote]

    Show me clips where Moss repeatedly went 5-10 yards out of his way to the left or right to catch passes. The majority of the time he just zipped down the sidelines without adjusting much at all.

    "If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"

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    Re: Vikings interested in big name WR?

    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=42554.msg727057#msg727057 date=1203768272]
    [quote author=olson_10 link=topic=42554.msg727047#msg727047 date=1203749189]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726976#msg726976 date=1203736819]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=42554.msg726969#msg726969 date=1203736460]
    [quote author=SharperImage link=topic=42554.msg726966#msg726966 date=1203736248]
    The Vikings will "almost certainly" make a run at free agents Jerry Porter and Bernard Berrian, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Berrian is believed to be No. 1 on Minnesota's list of potential offseason acquisitions. Porter would be a nice fallback as 6'2/220-pound West Coast receiver. D.J. Hackett should also be on the Vikings' radar.


    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

    That just gave me an erection... Could u imagine Benard Berrian to strecth the field..and Jerry Porter as our go to guy..

    Like you didn't have one while reading the posts about Moss.
    :P
    Maybe:P...LOL but think about it singer... Tjack with a rocket arm...AD...Berrian...Porter...Rice..Allison
    and what accuracy? 50 yards down the field and 5 yards out of bounds

    i do agree that having porter and berrian would be amazing, and would give us one of the best receiving corp's in the nfc..i really think weve gotta land 2 of these FAs to really make a splash..its clear that nobody available is a big time, bonafide elite #1 pass catcher, but they are pretty gol 'darnit good..if you get berrian to stretch the field, porter as a big body over the middle, rice as an amazing athlete on the outside, and bobby wade subbing in and playing the slot, thats gol 'darnit good for a passing attack (assuming theres somebody to throw them the ball)
    Usually I stay out of the "Moss is gone get over it" arguments but on this one I gotta chime in.... ;D

    Do you really believe that TJ is less accurate that Pepp?

    Moss and Carter made Pepp look good.
    How many times did we hear, "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" kindof stuff?


    Take another tack my friend.
    TJ doesn't come into play here.
    He can get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Hell, I could get it close enough for Randy to catch it.
    Now it's my turn to chime in.

    You do need a fairly accurate QB to catch the ball & Culpepper was quite accurate. The "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss was referring to was he wanted his QB's, Cunningham, George, Culppeper to throw it to him, but above his head so he could out jump his defenders to get the ball. And that is where they threw it. They were not inaccurate overthrown passes by any means, but exactly what Moss wanted.

    We know what happens when a ball is thrown lower & Moss has to try & wrestle & keep the ball away from the defender.

    Also, the "Just throw it up there and I'll go get it" comment Moss made, never meant get it within 5-10 yards of him & he'll catch it like way to many people believe. He never said, "Just throw it over there and I'll go over & get it". It was always about the jump ball & out leaping his defenders vetically.

    Comments members make like just get it within 5-10 yards of Moss & he'll catch it are kaka del rio IMO. Watch the highlights.
    [/quote]
    I have watched the highlights.
    Pepp wasn't that accurate.
    If he was he would still be playing someplace.

    Do you think CC made all those shoestring catches on the sideline cause he wanted the ball thrown out of bounds or gol 'darnit near out of bounds....

    Gimme a break.
    kaka del rio my jiggly butt.
    Those boys made Pepp and you know it.

    ;D
    [/quote]

    Crap, now I gotta chime in. ;D

    Pep was accurate.
    Incredibly accurate to be honest, especially on the long ball.
    His problem was that he couldn't read a defense worth a pooh.
    Linehan made Culpepper.
    It certainly didn't hurt that he had a great receiving corps. but I wouldn't say that they made him.
    [/quote]
    OK, just because you both say I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

    Pepp couldn't read a defense.
    I will agree with that.
    Moss was fast enough to recover/adjust to whereever Pepp threw it especially on the deep ball and if we had a CC catching the short stuff TJ would be called accurate.

    gol 'darnit.
    Feel like I am in a gang bang or something.

    ;D
    ;D
    ;D
    [/quote]

    Show me clips where Moss repeatedly went 5-10 yards out of his way to the left or right to catch passes. The majority of the time he just zipped down the sidelines without adjusting much at all.
    [/quote]

    The part that we can't see is that Moss had an "extra burst". When moss runs he makes it look effortless, so on TV we are not GOING to be able to see when he turns on the burners, or adjusts his route slightly to catch an inaccurate ball. There were lots of times that I remember where Moss and the DB would be stride for stride, the ball was thrown WAY deep and by the time Moss caught the ball, he was 5-10 yards past the DB without us being able to physically SEE that he adjusted his speed to catch that pass.
    So, I think that there is some credibility that goes along with the statement "Moss can catch anything if you put within 5 yards" But, I also agree that if he is running a short route, and he needs to plant, and move 5 yards to the left or right to catch a ball, he is going to let it go. I'm sticking with Marr on this one and saying that Pepp looked REALLY good when he had Carter (who was willing to go out of his way to catch the short, miss-thrown balls, which too the TV watcher is also hard to spot. We don't know when Carter had to adjust his route to catch a miss-thrown ball) and Moss (who was willing to turn on the burners and go up and fight for a jump ball when he needed). Culpepper was not REQUIRED to be THAT accurate because of the receiving core that he had.

    PHEW.... hope that makes sense.
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