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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    This is NOT good news.

    I agree that he has become a pain in the ass. But it would have been much better for him to show up in shape and at least be a solid tackle if not a very good one.

    We have NOBODY to put on that side of the line. All indications are that Johnson and Loadholt will be the guys now, but I do not think either one of them would be expected to play LOT.

    This is very sad. A guy with his size and his remarkable talent wasting it away. He could have been a key ingredient to a resurgent run game and a winning Vikings season this year.

    Such a shame.

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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    This should be interesting. In recent years there have been posters clamouring to proclaim him as an elite LT, so in that case teams should be falling over themselves to snap up such a quality player..
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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1102727
    Quote Originally Posted by "Overlord" #1102726
    I think it's too bad. I would have much preferred that McKinnie came into camp ready to work and the team could deal with other areas of need. His contract was pretty reasonable the rest of the way. When he was in shape and trying he was a pretty good player, probably a top 10 left tackle.

    But he was pretty bad a lot of times as well. It's probably the right thing to do for the team if he showed up overweight and out-of-shape.

    I find the idea that he has any meaningful value in a trade for a guy like Umenyiora very unlikely.

    Thoughts on where he will go... maybe end up back with Tice or retire?
    If we cut him, he will go straight to the Bears. Book it.
    and JA will be licking his lips at that matchup, in fact he'll probably run out of nickels paying to go through that turnstile.:laugh:
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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102728
    This is NOT good news.

    I agree that he has become a pain in the ass. But it would have been much better for him to show up in shape and at least be a solid tackle if not a very good one.

    We have NOBODY to put on that side of the line. All indications are that Johnson and Loadholt will be the guys now, but I do not think either one of them would be expected to play LOT.

    This is very sad. A guy with his size and his remarkable talent wasting it away. He could have been a key ingredient to a resurgent run game and a winning Vikings season this year.

    Such a shame.
    I agree. He has been a PITA but he is still better than anyone who we will replace him with.

    I will say that letting players go and replacing them with even more questionable talent seems to be an emerging trend and it will get us straight bavk to where we were a decade ago when Red gutted the team.

    It is beginning to look like history is going to repeat itself.

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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102736
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102728
    This is NOT good news.

    I agree that he has become a pain in the ass. But it would have been much better for him to show up in shape and at least be a solid tackle if not a very good one.

    We have NOBODY to put on that side of the line. All indications are that Johnson and Loadholt will be the guys now, but I do not think either one of them would be expected to play LOT.

    This is very sad. A guy with his size and his remarkable talent wasting it away. He could have been a key ingredient to a resurgent run game and a winning Vikings season this year.

    Such a shame.
    I agree. He has been a PITA but he is still better than anyone who we will replace him with.

    I will say that letting players go and replacing them with even more questionable talent seems to be an emerging trend and it will get us straight bavk to where we were a decade ago when Red gutted the team.

    It is beginning to look like history is going to repeat itself.
    Well not overpaying for players and letting players go is very different.

    I agree though ... this cannot be a good thing really because it means that we are thinner on the line and we have to start someone there that probably does not have the skills or talent to do it. McKinnie at least had those, even though he did not always display them.

    This is part of a process under a new coach though. It is a shame that the lockout happened. We would have likely cut his fat ass a long, long time ago and had a lot more time to find someone and adjust. Our draft would have likely been different, etc.

    But a new coach has to get rid of people that cannot do the job he wants them to do, or that he feels will just be a headache. So, it appears that McKinnie will be hitting the door.

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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102736
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102728
    This is NOT good news.

    I agree that he has become a pain in the ass. But it would have been much better for him to show up in shape and at least be a solid tackle if not a very good one.

    We have NOBODY to put on that side of the line. All indications are that Johnson and Loadholt will be the guys now, but I do not think either one of them would be expected to play LOT.

    This is very sad. A guy with his size and his remarkable talent wasting it away. He could have been a key ingredient to a resurgent run game and a winning Vikings season this year.

    Such a shame.
    I agree. He has been a PITA but he is still better than anyone who we will replace him with.

    I will say that letting players go and replacing them with even more questionable talent seems to be an emerging trend and it will get us straight bavk to where we were a decade ago when Red gutted the team.

    It is beginning to look like history is going to repeat itself.
    It looks like Charlie Johnson will be his replacement. Not great but he did pretty well protecting Manning over the years. He's an offensive lineman Ray Edwards. A solid player but nothing special. Difference is he doesn't have the mouth or attitude.

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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    McKinnie weighs in on Twitter:

    @BryantMckinnie:
    Its been fun

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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102736
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102728
    This is NOT good news.
    ...
    I agree. He has been a PITA but he is still better than anyone who we will replace him with.

    I will say that letting players go and replacing them with even more questionable talent seems to be an emerging trend and it will get us straight bavk to where we were a decade ago when Red gutted the team.

    It is beginning to look like history is going to repeat itself.
    This Charlie Johnson guy has started for two years at left tackle for the Colts and was a starter at various spots on the line two years before that. He doesn't have the potential of a McKinnie (mostly unrealized), but I would not say he is a questionable talent. I expect he will perform better than McKinnie last year, though I would rather have had McKinnie return to top form and Johnson help elsewhere on the line.

    I don't know what the future holds, but I'm not worried the team is going to hemorrhage talent as they did about ten years ago. The front office has been aggressive bringing in new talent over the years and they've drafted relatively well.

    The team is kind of up against the cap this year with it actually going down from two years ago, but they're still being aggressive in acquiring a solid veteran quarterback and bringing in some other pieces. Yeah, Rice is gone and there are some moves the team didn't make, but I don't think they're in a mode where they are going to shut it down and try to save money.
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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1102746
    McKinnie weighs in on Twitter:

    @BryantMckinnie:
    Its been fun
    and never hard work either.. :P
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    Re: Vikings initiate trade talks for Bryant McKinnie

    Quote Originally Posted by "ejmat" #1102745
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102736
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102728
    This is NOT good news.

    I agree that he has become a pain in the ass. But it would have been much better for him to show up in shape and at least be a solid tackle if not a very good one.

    We have NOBODY to put on that side of the line. All indications are that Johnson and Loadholt will be the guys now, but I do not think either one of them would be expected to play LOT.

    This is very sad. A guy with his size and his remarkable talent wasting it away. He could have been a key ingredient to a resurgent run game and a winning Vikings season this year.

    Such a shame.
    I agree. He has been a PITA but he is still better than anyone who we will replace him with.

    I will say that letting players go and replacing them with even more questionable talent seems to be an emerging trend and it will get us straight bavk to where we were a decade ago when Red gutted the team.

    It is beginning to look like history is going to repeat itself.
    It looks like Charlie Johnson will be his replacement. Not great but he did pretty well protecting Manning over the years. He's an offensive lineman Ray Edwards. A solid player but nothing special. Difference is he doesn't have the mouth or attitude.
    It does appear to be the case at this point.

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