Thread: Vikings to bring former Packer DE in for a visit

Rockmolder wrote:

Well, you signed him.

It's going to be interesting to see what he can do from the left side and together with Allen. If he gets the chance to do that.

Why wouldn't he get a chance? You don't think he is good enough to beat out Mitchell?

I hear ya about your eval of him, but hey, you guys let the Noodle go, let Kampman go....etc. Seems your staffs ability to evaluate talent seems to be lacking of late.

FuadFan wrote:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/89481857.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiU47cQUzyaP37D _MDua_eyD5PcOiU

Packers defensive end Michael Montgomery, who agreed to a one-year deal that is believed to be for around the veteran's minimum of $630,000.

Just veteran minimum contract if he can show he is better the Jayme Mitchell he makes the roster if not we just send him packing.

Thanks for the read my friend and you are spot on with your assesment.

Kindof a "What have you done for us" feeling with Mitchell.

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Well, you signed him.

It's going to be interesting to see what he can do from the left side and together with Allen. If he gets the chance to do that.

Why wouldn't he get a chance? You don't think he is good enough to beat out Mitchell?

I hear ya about your eval of him, but hey, you guys let the Noodle go, let Kampman go....etc. Seems your staffs ability to evaluate talent seems to be lacking of late.

I don't know if he's good enough to beat out Mitchell. I can't recall seeing Mitchell play. Lol.

My point was more that he most likely won't see the field a whole lot at all. And he's no pass rushing specialist, so he'll be rotational only. There's a big chance that, the times that he sees the field, it might not even be with Allen out there, as well.

Next to that, the year that he did get his chance to play, he did play on a D-line with Kampan, Pickett and Jolly/Cole. Not exactly your D-line, but no slouches either, and he couldn't get to the QB at all.

Although that was from the RDE spot and no the LDE one.

Like I said, it's going to be interesting to see what he can do if he gets out there with the rest of your starters on the D-line. Question is, how much will that happen, but we'll see.

We led the Noodle go to go with Rodgers. I'm going to chalk that one up in the win column. Kampman didn't fit in the 3-4. If anything, I was worried that we where going to resign him. I'm glad that he wanted to put his hand on the ground again and the Jaguars threw some money at him. I wish him the best, he's a great player and even better person, but I'm glad that we didn't get him back.

Marrdro wrote:

Randy Moss wrote:

marstc09 wrote:
Wait a minute. So it matters if Favre was a Packer but not this guy? LMFAO!

Favre was a Packer?!?!

The Noodle IS A PUKER.....

Always will be. Some of you just seem to ignore that fact.

Well then he must be the first player to beat his team twice in a season. As long as hes wearing a Vikings jersey I will root for him. I care more about the team as a whole than one individual player.

last I checked, Favre was on the Vikings Roster.

Some of you just seem to ignore that fact.

Rockmolder wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Well, you signed him.

It's going to be interesting to see what he can do from the left side and together with Allen. If he gets the chance to do that.

Why wouldn't he get a chance? You don't think he is good enough to beat out Mitchell?

I hear ya about your eval of him, but hey, you guys let the Noodle go, let Kampman go....etc. Seems your staffs ability to evaluate talent seems to be lacking of late.

I don't know if he's good enough to beat out Mitchell. I can't recall seeing Mitchell play. Lol.

My point was more that he most likely won't see the field a whole lot at all. And he's no pass rushing specialist, so he'll be rotational only. There's a big chance that, the times that he sees the field, it might not even be with Allen out there, as well.

Next to that, the year that he did get his chance to play, he did play on a D-line with Kampan, Pickett and Jolly/Cole. Not exactly your D-line, but no slouches either, and he couldn't get to the QB at all.

Although that was from the RDE spot and no the LDE one.

Like I said, it's going to be interesting to see what he can do if he gets out there with the rest of your starters on the D-line. Question is, how much will that happen, but we'll see.

We led the Noodle go to go with Rodgers. I'm going to chalk that one up in the win column. Kampman didn't fit in the 3-4. If anything, I was worried that we where going to resign him. I'm glad that he wanted to put his hand on the ground again and the Jaguars threw some money at him. I wish him the best, he's a great player and even better person, but I'm glad that we didn't get him back.

I know you know, but I just want to make sure......

The LDE's primary job is to stop the run. His secondary job is to contain his end from reverses/end arounds, his tertiary job is to get pressure on the QB.

I don't think the Vikes are bringing him in to play LDE in an effort to rush the QB.

i_bleed_purple wrote:

last I checked, Favre was on the Vikings Roster.

Some of you just seem to ignore that fact.

You could say that some of us actually go out of our way to ignore that fact.

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Well, you signed him.

It's going to be interesting to see what he can do from the left side and together with Allen. If he gets the chance to do that.

Why wouldn't he get a chance? You don't think he is good enough to beat out Mitchell?

I hear ya about your eval of him, but hey, you guys let the Noodle go, let Kampman go....etc. Seems your staffs ability to evaluate talent seems to be lacking of late.

I don't know if he's good enough to beat out Mitchell. I can't recall seeing Mitchell play. Lol.

My point was more that he most likely won't see the field a whole lot at all. And he's no pass rushing specialist, so he'll be rotational only. There's a big chance that, the times that he sees the field, it might not even be with Allen out there, as well.

Next to that, the year that he did get his chance to play, he did play on a D-line with Kampan, Pickett and Jolly/Cole. Not exactly your D-line, but no slouches either, and he couldn't get to the QB at all.

Although that was from the RDE spot and no the LDE one.

Like I said, it's going to be interesting to see what he can do if he gets out there with the rest of your starters on the D-line. Question is, how much will that happen, but we'll see.

We led the Noodle go to go with Rodgers. I'm going to chalk that one up in the win column. Kampman didn't fit in the 3-4. If anything, I was worried that we where going to resign him. I'm glad that he wanted to put his hand on the ground again and the Jaguars threw some money at him. I wish him the best, he's a great player and even better person, but I'm glad that we didn't get him back.

I know you know, but I just want to make sure......

The LDE's primary job is to stop the run. His secondary job is to contain his end from reverses/end arounds, his tertiary job is to get pressure on the QB.

I don't think the Vikes are bringing him in to play LDE in an effort to rush the QB.

In most scheme`s I`d tend to agree with that. However, that seems to be something us vikings fans make up to cover the fact that we havne`t had a LDE that has been exceptional at rushing the passer.

The fact is, in the cover 2, we rely on pressure from the QB. to be successful. We shouldn`t have to blitz to get pressure, and when we do, we take somebody out of coverage and get burnt. If our LDE was not trying to rush the passer, then all a QB needs to do is move to the right a bit to buy time and pass.

i_bleed_purple wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Well, you signed him.

It's going to be interesting to see what he can do from the left side and together with Allen. If he gets the chance to do that.

Why wouldn't he get a chance? You don't think he is good enough to beat out Mitchell?

I hear ya about your eval of him, but hey, you guys let the Noodle go, let Kampman go....etc. Seems your staffs ability to evaluate talent seems to be lacking of late.

I don't know if he's good enough to beat out Mitchell. I can't recall seeing Mitchell play. Lol.

My point was more that he most likely won't see the field a whole lot at all. And he's no pass rushing specialist, so he'll be rotational only. There's a big chance that, the times that he sees the field, it might not even be with Allen out there, as well.

Next to that, the year that he did get his chance to play, he did play on a D-line with Kampan, Pickett and Jolly/Cole. Not exactly your D-line, but no slouches either, and he couldn't get to the QB at all.

Although that was from the RDE spot and no the LDE one.

Like I said, it's going to be interesting to see what he can do if he gets out there with the rest of your starters on the D-line. Question is, how much will that happen, but we'll see.

We led the Noodle go to go with Rodgers. I'm going to chalk that one up in the win column. Kampman didn't fit in the 3-4. If anything, I was worried that we where going to resign him. I'm glad that he wanted to put his hand on the ground again and the Jaguars threw some money at him. I wish him the best, he's a great player and even better person, but I'm glad that we didn't get him back.

I know you know, but I just want to make sure......

The LDE's primary job is to stop the run. His secondary job is to contain his end from reverses/end arounds, his tertiary job is to get pressure on the QB.

I don't think the Vikes are bringing him in to play LDE in an effort to rush the QB.

In most scheme`s I`d tend to agree with that. However, that seems to be something us vikings fans make up to cover the fact that we havne`t had a LDE that has been exceptional at rushing the passer.

The fact is, in the cover 2, we rely on pressure from the QB. to be successful. We shouldn`t have to blitz to get pressure, and when we do, we take somebody out of coverage and get burnt. If our LDE was not trying to rush the passer, then all a QB needs to do is move to the right a bit to buy time and pass.

Have you looked at our LDE's stats in this area? Sure, he only got 8 sacks last year, but he lead the league in hits and was tied at 4th in the league with our RDE for QB pressures.

Doesn't mean he isn't putting on pressure, just means he has to read/react to something else first before he makes that move.

i_bleed_purple wrote:

last I checked, Favre was on the Vikings Roster.

Some of you just seem to ignore that fact.

Marrdro reserves the right to ignore all facts about Favre...


..but he's a Bengals fan, and you know how they are...

Caine