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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

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    All contracts should be incentive based.
    Get paid for your performance.
    Do you get paid based on your daily performance?
    Is this for my day job or night job
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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

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    BUMP:

    Updated: Added in Glenn Holt.

    Also added in Fred Evans' RFA Tender number.

    Havent seen any details on Cedric Griffin's extension.
    The deal is for five years and a total of a little more than $25 million. It contains $10 million in guaranteed money.
    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-442/Stop-the-presses--Griffin-contract-numbers-in.html

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

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    "bleedpurple" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
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    Adrian Peterson's agent should be fired! His entire contract is incentive based. Good for the team, terrible for AD.
    yeah but at the time it made him the highest paid RB in the league.. top that, he'll get prob every last one of the incentives... he's good!
    No it didn't it was a 40 million 7 years contract and not unusally for the 7th overrall pick. Hell, Laundry got a similar contract and he is a saftey. Just not a great contract it is as average money, with a great risk!
    and at the time if fully fulfilled he's be the highest paid rb in the league... what are you talking about???...

    or don't you know that rookies get ARAB money coming out of college that makes them among the highest paid in the league at their position.. and that their salaries are a precursor for FA the next year...

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/20024298/

    and don't question me again!!!
    ;D j/k.. but i'm not sure where you got that from... honestly!
    Imo, it's so rediculous that early round rookies get such large contracts.
    Not a single one of them has proven themselves at the NFL level... Not that it bothers me that AD and certain others get paid a lot, but I think it's complete bullpooh that first round rookies get paid so much.
    That may be true for first round picks, especially early first round picks, but not so much on 2nd round and further.
    The argument by Upshaw against reducing rookie salaries any more is to protect the veterans.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-rookiecontracts042108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    Upshaw is against additional structuring because the union has already given teams a rookie cap within the overall salary cap, effectively putting limits on how much guaranteed money goes to rookie players. He noted that while the amount of guaranteed money has increased for the top five and 10 overall picks, the amount guaranteed in the second round has decreased. Much of that is because players selected after the first round can only sign four-year maximum contracts.

    Ultimately, Upshaw is concerned that keeping rookie salaries too cheap could price veterans out of jobs, especially those who make one of the varying minimum salaries. That has been an issue before in the salary-cap era.

    In the late 1990s, for instance, the veteran minimum wage was growing at a higher aggregate rate than rookies’. What that eventually meant for teams is that keeping rookies was more cost effective than keeping veterans. For instance, teams could almost keep two or three rookies for the cost of keeping one veteran. The league and the union eventually addressed that issue with a somewhat complex formula for rookie and veteran salaries, making sure the salaries stayed in some proportion.

    “We have to have a system where every player has an equal chance to get a job,” Upshaw said. “We don’t want to get into a position where the league is keeping four or five rookies because it’s cheaper than keeping one or two veterans.”

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

    BUMP!!!!!

    Updated.

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

    The Vikings reportedly are between $17 million and $18 million under the cap.

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

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    The Vikings reportedly are between $17 million and $18 million under the cap.

    http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090507/PKR01/90506195/1058
    hmmm, interesting, i wonder where they got there numbers from.

    Ill check around the web. And Ill get back to you guys.

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

    Our projected FA's after 2009.

    Antoine Winfield CB
    Chester Taylor RB
    Karl Paymah CB
    Fred Evans DT
    Naufahu Tahi FB

    Ray Edwards DE
    Artis Hicks OG/OT
    Benny Sapp CB
    Ryan Cook OT
    Tarvaris Jackson QB
    Jimmy Kennedy DT
    Charles Gordon CB
    Gelnn Holt WR
    Otis Grigsby DE
    Garrett Mills TE
    Eric Frampton FS
    David Herron OLB
    Nick Urban OG
    Juan Garcia OG

    for the moment, all but Frampton and Herron are UFA's, and Garcia and Urban scheduled ERFA's.

    But with a uncapper yr looming some players like Mills, Grigsby, Holt, Gordon, will revert back to RFA's, and not UFA's since they dont have 6yr of experience in the NFL.

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

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    Our projected FA's after 2009.

    Antoine Winfield CB
    Chester Taylor RB
    Karl Paymah CB
    Fred Evans DT
    Naufahu Tahi FB

    Ray Edwards DE
    Artis Hicks OG/OT
    Benny Sapp CB
    Ryan Cook OT
    Tarvaris Jackson QB
    Jimmy Kennedy DT
    Charles Gordon CB
    Gelnn Holt WR
    Otis Grigsby DE
    Garrett Mills TE
    Eric Frampton FS
    David Herron OLB
    Nick Urban OG
    Juan Garcia OG

    for the moment, all but Frampton and Herron are UFA's, and Garcia and Urban scheduled ERFA's.

    But with a uncapper yr looming some players like Mills, Grigsby, Holt, Gordon, will revert back to RFA's, and not UFA's since they dont have 6yr of experience in the NFL.
    Wouldn't TJack also fall under <6?


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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

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    Our projected FA's after 2009.

    Antoine Winfield CB
    Chester Taylor RB
    Karl Paymah CB
    Fred Evans DT
    Naufahu Tahi FB

    Ray Edwards DE
    Artis Hicks OG/OT
    Benny Sapp CB
    Ryan Cook OT
    Tarvaris Jackson QB
    Jimmy Kennedy DT
    Charles Gordon CB
    Gelnn Holt WR
    Otis Grigsby DE
    Garrett Mills TE
    Eric Frampton FS
    David Herron OLB
    Nick Urban OG
    Juan Garcia OG

    for the moment, all but Frampton and Herron are UFA's, and Garcia and Urban scheduled ERFA's.

    But with a uncapper yr looming some players like Mills, Grigsby, Holt, Gordon, will revert back to RFA's, and not UFA's since they dont have 6yr of experience in the NFL.
    Wouldn't TJack also fall under <6?
    nope your correct, same as Tahi i beleive. So, the following would be RFA's

    Jackson
    Frampton
    Herron
    Mills
    Grigsby
    Tahi
    Holt
    Gordon
    Evans

    and maybe Edwards and Paymah(Id have to check on paymah)

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    Re: Vikings 2009 Cap Update

    "JUCJ85" wrote:
    "ThorSPL" wrote:
    "JUCJ85" wrote:
    Our projected FA's after 2009.

    Antoine Winfield CB
    Chester Taylor RB
    Karl Paymah CB
    Fred Evans DT
    Naufahu Tahi FB

    Ray Edwards DE
    Artis Hicks OG/OT
    Benny Sapp CB
    Ryan Cook OT
    Tarvaris Jackson QB
    Jimmy Kennedy DT
    Charles Gordon CB
    Gelnn Holt WR
    Otis Grigsby DE
    Garrett Mills TE
    Eric Frampton FS
    David Herron OLB
    Nick Urban OG
    Juan Garcia OG

    for the moment, all but Frampton and Herron are UFA's, and Garcia and Urban scheduled ERFA's.

    But with a uncapper yr looming some players like Mills, Grigsby, Holt, Gordon, will revert back to RFA's, and not UFA's since they dont have 6yr of experience in the NFL.
    Wouldn't TJack also fall under <6?
    nope your correct, same as Tahi i beleive. So, the following would be RFA's

    Jackson
    Frampton
    Herron
    Mills
    Grigsby
    Tahi
    Holt
    Gordon
    Evans

    and maybe Edwards and Paymah(Id have to check on paymah)
    You need to post more often.


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