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    Top 5 Players at Each Position

    For this thread I am going to use the following link Consensus Draft Services for most of the player rankings and scouting reports. I have never seen them before and want to see how you guys feel about their rankings. Feel free to add your thoughts or other links/sources for the follow-on discussions:

    QB
    #1 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri 6ft 4.1in 242 4.80
    #2 Cam Newton QB Auburn 6ft 5.3in 252 4.60
    #3 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas 6ft 6.2in 238 5.00
    #4 Jake Locker QB Washington 6ft 3.0in 226 4.45
    #5 Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada 6ft 5.4in 225 4.53
    Most drafts have Gabbert and Newton gone by 12 with our choice of the next 3. I am of a mind that none of them are worth taking at 12. Someone got something to convince me otherwise?


    RB
    #1 Mark Ingram HB Alabama 5ft 10.0in 212 4.50
    #2 Mikel Leshoure HB Illinois 6ft 0.0in 230 4.50
    #3 DeMarco Murray HB Oklahoma 5ft 11.5in 207 4.50
    #4 Kendall Hunter HB Oklahoma State 5ft 7.5in 197 4.38
    #5 Ryan Williams HB Virginia Tech 5ft 10.0in 206 4.52
    The way people have hit paydirt with RB's in the later rounds of late, coupled with the backs we already have, I just don't see us burning our number one on one of these cats.


    OT
    #1 Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College 6ft 7.0in 290 5.00
    #2 Nate Solder OT Colorado 6ft 7.7in 307 4.80
    #3 Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin 6ft 7.1in 315 5.20
    #4 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State 6ft 5.1in 305 5.10
    #5 Tyron Smith OT USC 6ft 5.7in 285 5.10
    Seems that alot of rankings have Solder as the number one in this group, regardless, at 12 we should be able to get one of the top 2 T's based on what I think teams ahead of us will do.

    OG
    #1 Rodney Hudson OG Florida State 6ft 2.0in 285 4.95
    #2 John Moffitt OG Wisconsin 6ft 4.0in 314 5.15
    #3 Danny WatkinsOT Baylor 6ft 3.0in 310 5.20
    #4 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6ft 4.2in 310 5.25
    #5 Clint Boling OT Georgia 6ft 5.0in 310 5.40
    Same comment here on G. Doesn't look like any of them with the exception of Pouncey (most other sites have him as their number 1 G) who looks to go someplace between 10 and 20.



    WR
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    #1 A.J. Green WR Georgia 6ft 3.5in 207 4.49
    #2 Julio Jones WR Alabama 6ft 4.1in 218 4.40
    #3 Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy State 5ft 8.6in 188 4.36
    #4 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami (FL) 6ft 2.2in 214 4.48
    #5 Titus Young WR Boise State 5ft 11.1in 170 4.45
    So far I see alot of AJ Green going in the top 5 to 10. Probably won't be there at 12 for us. Anyone think Julio Jones is worth taking at 12?

    TE
    #1 Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame 6ft 5.5in 264 4.80
    #2 Luke Stocker TE Tennessee 6ft 4.7in 255 4.90
    #3 D.J. Williams TE Arkansas 6ft 1.7in 236 4.59
    #4 Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin 6ft 3.1in 240 4.65
    #5 Robert Housler TE Florida Atlantic 6ft 5.2in 228 4.58
    Rudolph and Stocker have the size and speed to be considered true "Inline" kindof TE's, but should we take on at 12?

    FB
    #1 Stanley Havili FB USC 6ft 1.0in 230 4.75
    #2 Owen Marecic FB Stanford 6ft 0.3in 246 4.80
    #3 Henry Hynoski FB Pittsburgh 6ft 1.6in 260 4.80
    #4 Charles Clay HB Tulsa 6ft 3.0in 234 4.70
    #5 Shaun Chapas FB Georgia 6ft 1.3in 245 4.80
    This is a dead position. You can probably get Hayili someplace after the 4th round. Surely no one thinks we should take one of these guys at 12.

    In the end, we should have the pick of the following players at 12. Who do you take?

    Mallet QB
    Locker QB
    Kaepernick QB
    Ingram RB
    Castonzo OT
    Solder OT
    Hudson OG
    Pouncey OG/C (I have seen him rated higher)
    Julio Jones WR
    Any TE
    Any FB
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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    Defense.

    Looks like there will be a run at Defensive players by several teams ahead of us.

    Alot of mocks have the following players gone by the time we pick at 12.
    Nick Fairley DT
    DaQuan Bowers DE
    Robert Quinn DE
    Marcel Dareus DE
    Aldon Smith DE
    Patrick Peterson CB
    Prince Amukamara CB
    Von Miller LB

    DE
    #1 DaQuan Bowers DE Clemson 6ft 3.6in 271 4.75
    #2 Robert Quinn DE North Carolina 6ft 4.1in 272 4.65
    #3 Cameron Jordan DE California 6ft 4.1in 287 4.90
    #4 Allen Bailey DE Miami (FL) 6ft 3.2in 288 4.65
    #5 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue 6ft 3.7in 255 4.85
    I think that DE is gonna be a position we have to address, but it looks like all the good ones worth taking will be gone by 12.

    DT
    #1 Nick Fairley DE Auburn 6ft 5.0in 298 4.95
    #2 Marcell Dareus DT Alabama 6ft 3.0in 306 4.85
    #3 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6ft 2.7in 340 5.30
    #4 Drake Nevis DT Louisiana State 6ft 0.5in 294 4.97
    #5 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina 6ft 2.5in 305 5.00
    #6 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6ft 1.1in 295 5.05
    I stuck Paea in there at 6 as he and Dareus are the two top rated pocket collapsers I always long for the last couple of years.

    I wouldn't take any of the 3/5 technique guys here at 12.

    MLB
    #1 Martez Wilson LB Illinois 6ft 4.0in 250 4.60
    #2 Kelvin Sheppard LB Louisiana State 6ft 2.1in 250 4.70
    #3 Greg Jones LB Michigan State 5ft 11.7in 240 4.60
    #4 Quan Sturdivant LB North Carolina 6ft 0.8in 231 4.65
    #5 Greg Lloyd II LB Connecticut 6ft 2.0in 245 4.70
    We should have our pick at MLB, but with the way Jasper Brinkley has played, I don't think you use the 12th on one of these cats.

    OLB
    #1 Von Miller DE Texas A&M 6ft 2.0in 253 4.50
    #2 Akeem Ayers LB UCLA 6ft 2.7in 254 4.67
    #3 Justin Houston DE Georgia 6ft 3.0in 255 4.70
    #4 Bruce Carter LB North Carolina 6ft 2.4in 225 4.40
    #5 Aldon Smith DE Missouri 6ft 3.7in 253 4.75
    Going on the assesment that we sign Chad, and Von Miller being gone by 12, along with the depth we have, I don't think you need to look at LB, however, it might just be that one of these cats is the BPA. Still, I wouldn't use our 12 pick on one of these unless we didn't resign Chad.

    SS
    #1 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6ft 0.4in 212 4.58
    #2 Ahmad Black S Florida 5ft 9.0in 195 4.50
    #3 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5ft 11.4in 223 4.62
    #4 Duke Ihenacho S San Jose State 6ft 1.0in 210 4.60
    #5 Johnny Brown S Mississippi 5ft 11.2in 212 4.68
    I don't know enough about these guys to know if McDaniel or Black are a reach or not at 12. Some think S is a need. I tend to agree but don't think its a 12 pick need.

    FS
    #1 Rahim Moore S UCLA 6ft 1.0in 195 4.50
    #2 Deunta Williams S North Carolina 6ft 1.0in 205 4.45
    #3 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6ft 0.0in 200 4.50
    #4 Will Hill S Florida 6ft 1.1in 207 4.50
    #5 Robert Sands S West Virginia 6ft 4.0in 211 4.60
    Same comment as the SS side of the house with one caveat. The way we use our S's (both are really FS's) maybe, just maybe Moore (don't know him) could be an option.

    CB
    #1 Patrick Peterson CB Louisiana State 6ft 1.1in 222 4.42
    #2 Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 6ft 0.5in 205 4.45
    #3 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6ft 2.0in 200 4.50
    #4 Shareece Wright CB USC 5ft 11.0in 182 4.55
    #5 Richard Sherman CB Stanford 6ft 3.0in 197 4.55
    Looks like the top 2 will be gone by 12. Anyone think Dowling is worth taking, especially when you look at the depth we have when everyone is healthy.

    After looking at this this way, I tend to think that the only position you might pick a defensive player at 12 is the NT.

    My guess, if the mock goes the way this page has it going, we are gonna go offense with our number 12 pick.
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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    Another viewpoint.....Going by their Mock, using the strikethrough on the top 25 rated players, who would you take at 12?

    [strike]#1 Nick Fairley DE 6' 5.0" 298 lbs 4.95 Auburn[/strike]
    [strike]#2 DaQuan Bowers DE 6' 3.6" 271 lbs 4.75 Clemson[/strike]
    [strike]#3 Patrick Peterson CB 6' 1.1" 222 lbs 4.42 Louisiana State[/strike]
    [strike]#4 A.J. Green WR 6' 3.5" 207 lbs 4.49 Georgia[/strike]
    [strike]#5 Blaine Gabbert QB 6' 4.1" 242 lbs 4.80 Missouri[/strike]
    [strike]#6 Julio Jones WR 6' 4.1" 218 lbs 4.40 Alabama[/strike]
    [strike]#7 Marcell Dareus DT 6' 3.0" 306 lbs 4.85 Alabama[/strike]
    [strike]#8 Robert Quinn DE 6' 4.1" 272 lbs 4.65 North Carolina[/strike]
    #9 Ryan Mallett QB 6' 6.2" 238 lbs 5.00 Arkansas
    #10 Nate Solder OT 6' 7.7" 307 lbs 4.80 Colorado
    #11 Gabe Carimi OT 6' 7.1" 315 lbs 5.20 Wisconsin
    [strike]#12 Von Miller DE 6' 2.0" 253 lbs 4.50 Texas A&M[/strike]
    [strike]#13 Prince Amukamara CB 6' 0.5" 205 lbs 4.45 Nebraska[/strike]
    #14 Cameron Jordan DE 6' 4.1" 287 lbs 4.90 California
    #15 Jake Locker QB 6' 3.0" 226 lbs 4.45 Washington
    [strike]#16 Cam Newton QB 6' 5.3" 252 lbs 4.60 Auburn[/strike]
    #17 J.J. Watt DE 6' 5.5" 290 lbs 4.80 Wisconsin
    #18 Anthony Castonzo OT 6' 7.0" 290 lbs 5.00 Boston College
    #19 Ryan Kerrigan DE 6' 3.7" 255 lbs 4.85 Purdue
    #20 Akeem Ayers LB 6' 2.7" 254 lbs 4.67 UCLA
    #21 Kyle Rudolph TE 6' 5.5" 264 lbs 4.80 Notre Dame
    #22 Phil Taylor DT 6' 2.7" 340 lbs 5.30 Baylor
    #23 Cameron Heyward DT 6' 5.1" 288 lbs 4.96 Ohio State
    #24 Drake Nevis DT 6' 0.5" 294 lbs 4.97 Louisiana State
    #25 Marvin Austin DT 6' 2.5" 305 lbs 5.00 North Carolina
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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    Using their scouting reports and projections, here is what will be available.

    #9 Ryan Mallett QB 6' 6.2" 238 lbs 5.00 Arkansas
    Overview
    Tall, productive and physically-gifted with a cannon-arm, Mallett fits the pro-QB profile to a 'T'. Named to the SEC 2nd Team in '09 and '10. Only the fourth SEC QB to ever throw back-to-back 3000+ yard and 30+ TDs, Mallett has set or tied 43 Razorback records accounting for 62 TD passes in his 2 years as a starter against just 19 interceptions. He started his career at Michigan in 2007, but transferred to Arkansas when Rich Rodriguez was hired at UM.
    Strengths
    Physically, Mallett has been compared to Ben Roethlisberger as able to see over the line and hard to bring down. He can make every NFL throw, and his arm strength is perhaps his greatest asset. He has very good footwork for a man of his size and is a hard-worker off-the-field regarding conditioning and preparation. He tends to make good decisions, correct reads and effective play changes. He is physically tough, sustaining a mid-season concussion against Auburn, but still making the next week's start. He has been extremely productive in arguably the toughest defensive conference in the country.
    Weaknesses
    He does exhibit some minor mechanics issues and has not performed well when he is actively pressured and forced to re-locate. He has thrown some interceptions at critical points in the game (most recently in the loss to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl). He did have a 'public intoxication' arrest early in his career at UA and some recent reports of 'unspecified off-field issues' could hurt his stock. He was visibly un-nerved against Ohio State, particularly when he was sacked - he may need to mature in that respect to be regarded as a complete QB at the next level.
    #15 Jake Locker QB 6' 3.0" 226 lbs 4.45 Washington
    Strengths
    Jake Locker came back for a fifth season in 2010 after possibly being the number one overall selection in the 2010 NFL Draft had he declared. One of the top athletes at the quarterback position. Great speed, acceleration, and toughness for a quarterback. A difficult runner to bring down, as he's a physical runner but has the speed to turn the corner and outrace defenders down the field. A very effective dual-threat quarterback who puts pressure on a defense with his athleticism. Throws with good accuracy on the move. A former high school baseball player who was drafted twice in the MLB Draft, including by the Angels in the 10th Round of the 2009 MLB Draft. Threw a 90+ mph fastball as a high school pitcher. This is evident as a passer, as he has the arm strength and velocity to make any throw on the football field. Throws with great zip. Quick release. Has improved his accuracy each year, although the numbers don't say so (his receivers had numerous drops in 2010). His decision making has also improved, as his interception totals have gone down each season. Has a good feel in the pocket, as he has the feet to escape pressure and has the athleticism to make plays out of the pocket and as a scrambler. Lead several late game drives for victories. Showed that he can make plays on key downs and in key situations. Locker has responded well after poor performances, showing great resiliency. Played with sub-par talent and the Huskies were almost always had less talent than the opposition, yet Locker was able to get 12 victories in his final two season (including going 9-5 over his last 14 starts of his career). A very tough player who played with pain for most of his career. A great leader who also has great character, Locker will be very well received by the team who selects him.
    Weaknesses
    A raw passer who is more of an athlete than a quarterback at this time. Locker played in a Wing T offense in high school and a Spread offense his first three seasons at UW. His production never matched his talent. Needs to set his feet as a passer more consistently. Inconsistent with his accuracy because of this. Still working on becoming quicker with reading defenses. Needs to be a quicker decision maker as a passer. Stares down his receivers at times. Has struggled against better competition. Locker has had multiple injuries, forcing him to miss parts of every season but 2009. Missed part of 2007 with a concusion. Missed most of 2008 with a broken finger. Played most of 2010 with a broken rib, including missing one game.
    Projection
    First Round. Because of his physical skills, leadership, and high character, Locker will be selected in the first half of the First Round, possibly in the Top 1
    Again, I am not as high on either of these two as most are. Of the two, which would you take at 12?

    #10 Nate Solder OT 6' 7.7" 307 lbs 4.80 Colorado
    Strengths
    Huge athlete; massive frame and wingspan. Only has 7% body fat, highly unusual for a man his size. Quick and strong, and has the feet to play left tackle. Plays with a wide base and drops smoothly in pass protection, and is almost impossible to run around. Has learned to bend his knees and play much lower than in prior seasons, and his game has improved considerably. Gets movement off the ball as a run blocker, and can run and reach the second level.
    Weaknesses
    Not as physically dominating as a man his size should be; more of a technician at this point. Needs to add more muscle to his massive frame, and needs to play with more of an attitude.
    Projection
    Arguably the top tackle prospect in the nation and undoubtedly a first-round pick. Has the tools to become a dominating LT, particularly in pass protection
    I liked what Mayock had to say about him, but when I watched him in the Senior Bowl he got owned.

    Mayock is still pretty high on him though.

    #14 Cameron Jordan DE 6' 4.1" 287 lbs 4.90 California
    Strengths
    Jordan has great bloodlines, as his father Steve is a former Pro Bowl tight end of the Minnesota Vikings. Good size and strength. Has a good base that allows for him to play with good leverage and pad level. He routinely stacks and sheds blocks at the POA. Strong hands and long arms to keep linemen away from his chest. Has the awareness to find the level of the ball, disengage from his block, and the range to make plays in pursuit. Uses his hands well to keep linemen off his legs and has good balance to stay on his feet most of the time. His best pass rush move is the club move, but he uses a rip and arm over move effectively as well. Gives great effort as he works toward the QB or ball carrier on every down.
    Weaknesses
    Inconsistent get off from the snap. Adequate speed and quickness for his size, but he is not going to be a speed threat from the outside as a pass rusher. Would like to utilize his strength more with a bull rush to compliment his pass rush moves. He was suspended for the 2008 season opener after being arrested for a DUI suspicion.
    Projection
    First rounder, with the potential to be as high as top 20. Jordan has the perfect size and strength to start immediately at five technique for a team running a 3-4 defense.
    Son of fan favorite Steve Jordon (hell of a TE my friends). I would love to see this kid lining up at LDE.

    #20 Akeem Ayers LB 6' 2.7" 254 lbs 4.67 UCLA
    Strengths
    Extremely versatile and athletic linebacker. Can line up at strongside linebacker a few yards deep from the LOS, at the LOS in a two-point stance or in a three-point stance as a defensive end. Could be successful as a 4-3 OLB, 3-4 OLB or 4-3 defensive end if he added some strength and weight. Can stack at the edge, has long arms to keep himself out of reach of the offensive linemen, and shed to pursue the ball. Great sideline-to-sideline range. Quick laterally to make plays down the LOS, and has the closing speed to make plays from behind. A good tackler because of his balance and long arms. Causes big collisions and forces fumbles. Explosive off the snap as a pass rusher. Great first-step to get by the offensive tackles, can turn the corner with his quickness, counter inside or use his strength with a bull rush. Good COD ability which helps as a pass rusher and in coverage. Good awareness in coverage and has the closing ability to make plays on receivers or the ball once in the air. Has shown the ability to make plays on the ball, and can return the ball the distance. A playmaker in all facets on the defensive side of the ball.
    Weaknesses
    Less than ideal instincts as a linebacker. A half-step late in his reads and in reacting. Makes false steps at times. Can be run at, as he lacks the strength to anchor and win at the POA. Needs to improve his consistentcy in disengaging from blocks. Natural pass rusher, but will need to develop secondary moves to be successful at the NFL level.
    Projection
    First round talent. He will at least be taken in the top 25, but could break in as high as the top half of the first round if he really impresses at his workouts. Ayers best projects as a 3-4 OLB at the next level.
    I think you gotta almost say he isn't a good fit as a 4-3 LB in a cover 2 scheme.
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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    First off I will say that I'm not overly familiar with college football and so can't make specific comments on players skill, production etc so my questions may be more generic questions

    Regarding Jake Locker - now the scouting report shown says that he would have been possibly the #1 overal draft pick last year. This year he's showing up at #15 ( in the scouting report ) - so what has changed in a year to drop him that much? Is it that the players declaring for this year are that much more talented at their respective postiions, are more of positions of need for the teams drafting this year? or is that that the extra year has highlighted bigger flaws in Lockers play than was known about this time last year? Looking at the weaknesses shown he sounds a little too fragile for my liking and don't want to go for a QB that is always going to be missing lots of playing time through injury - especially if the OL play like they did last year.

    Mallett - mention made that there are minor mechanics issues with him. If Chilly was here then that would concern me as that was not a major concern to him when his boy had so many of them. However with the new coaching staff in then we have the unknown of how well they will be able to develop players and eliminate problems from peoples way of playing.

    If neither QB is high on our list then I think OL is the choice to go for. From the report then Solder looks good and like the sound of the pass protection which I don't think we get from McKinnie. If we did go for him then would McKinnie get moved to RT and Loadholt move down to backup, or would we then be looking at trading McKinnie?

    Not sure about going for a DE in the first round, though if the better DTs have gone then DE may be worth considering. I agree that S is a need but not for the first round and definitely not WR or RB IMO either.
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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    Mallet QB
    Locker QB
    Kaepernick QB
    Ingram RB
    Castonzo OT
    Solder OT
    Hudson OG
    Pouncey OG/C (I have seen him rated higher)
    Julio Jones WR
    Any TE
    Any FB
    Of those i take Mallett, followed by Jones and Solder.


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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089568
    Another viewpoint.....Going by their Mock, using the strikethrough on the top 25 rated players, who would you take at 12?

    [strike]#1 Nick Fairley DE 6' 5.0" 298 lbs 4.95 Auburn[/strike]
    [strike]#2 DaQuan Bowers DE 6' 3.6" 271 lbs 4.75 Clemson[/strike]
    [strike]#3 Patrick Peterson CB 6' 1.1" 222 lbs 4.42 Louisiana State[/strike]
    [strike]#4 A.J. Green WR 6' 3.5" 207 lbs 4.49 Georgia[/strike]
    [strike]#5 Blaine Gabbert QB 6' 4.1" 242 lbs 4.80 Missouri[/strike]
    [strike]#6 Julio Jones WR 6' 4.1" 218 lbs 4.40 Alabama[/strike]
    [strike]#7 Marcell Dareus DT 6' 3.0" 306 lbs 4.85 Alabama[/strike]
    [strike]#8 Robert Quinn DE 6' 4.1" 272 lbs 4.65 North Carolina[/strike]
    #9 Ryan Mallett QB 6' 6.2" 238 lbs 5.00 Arkansas
    #10 Nate Solder OT 6' 7.7" 307 lbs 4.80 Colorado
    #11 Gabe Carimi OT 6' 7.1" 315 lbs 5.20 Wisconsin
    [strike]#12 Von Miller DE 6' 2.0" 253 lbs 4.50 Texas A&M[/strike]
    [strike]#13 Prince Amukamara CB 6' 0.5" 205 lbs 4.45 Nebraska[/strike]
    #14 Cameron Jordan DE 6' 4.1" 287 lbs 4.90 California
    #15 Jake Locker QB 6' 3.0" 226 lbs 4.45 Washington
    [strike]#16 Cam Newton QB 6' 5.3" 252 lbs 4.60 Auburn[/strike]
    #17 J.J. Watt DE 6' 5.5" 290 lbs 4.80 Wisconsin
    #18 Anthony Castonzo OT 6' 7.0" 290 lbs 5.00 Boston College
    #19 Ryan Kerrigan DE 6' 3.7" 255 lbs 4.85 Purdue
    #20 Akeem Ayers LB 6' 2.7" 254 lbs 4.67 UCLA
    #21 Kyle Rudolph TE 6' 5.5" 264 lbs 4.80 Notre Dame
    #22 Phil Taylor DT 6' 2.7" 340 lbs 5.30 Baylor
    #23 Cameron Heyward DT 6' 5.1" 288 lbs 4.96 Ohio State
    #24 Drake Nevis DT 6' 0.5" 294 lbs 4.97 Louisiana State
    #25 Marvin Austin DT 6' 2.5" 305 lbs 5.00 North Carolina
    I really like Kerrigan here and again Mallett, don't know why Tyron Smith isn't in this Top 25


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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    I think you are going to take Mallett if he is there.

    As to o-linemen, I'm personally very leery of any prospect under 310 lbs.

    Weird thing to say, huh? I get VERY afraid when I hear the scouts say, "Ideal for the ZBS scheme employed by [GB, Minn, etc.]"

    RUN from that selection in the NFCN, imo Take them off your board ! again, imo

    It's a brutal lesson learned. Get your ideally qualified hat-on-a-hat guy and make him a friggin' zbser, I say, so even Nate didn't make "my" board, much less the 290 lb developmental tackle (in my highly opinionated opinion )

    "Massive"? Locker? He's at LEAST 3 lbs light in the trou lol

    (NO, I don't really trust any of the given weights...yet)

    GD zbs, friggin' light in the trou zbsers, I'm gonna shut up now, lol I'll rant.

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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    Although I don't like the pick, I think it makes most sense to draft Pouncey either at 12 or trading down a couple picks to snag him in the back half of the first and get back that 3rd we lost from acquiring Moss. 7 teams next year play a 3-4 and sully just can't hold his own against any nose tackle. If we're going to become a heavy run team its important to have good interior linemen. Herrera must stay because he is probably our most aggressive run blocker and I can see Pouncey playing center although he has little experience playing center (1 YR).

    I think you go either linemen or Amukamura CB because we'll soon realize we're gonna need good corners who can man up and hold their own if we see a little more blitz happy play-calling. And to Marrdro don't you think we should be making a move for Shaun Rodgers? We've seen the damage he could do when he was in Detroit. His play was just as good in Cleveland playing NT in a 3-4. That may be a temp fix that would last a good 3 years.

    Back to my point if we're going to be a solid run team, we should really address the line and even if you feel Pouncey is a reach at 12 a tackle wouldn't be a bad move here or simply the BPA approach.
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    Re: Top 5 Players at Each Position

    I'm not sure any of this years QB's are worthy of a #12 pick.
    I wouldn't argue with taking Gabbert there but I'll be surprised if we took anyone else there.

    Pouncey isn't a twelve. If we really think he is what we need, and it sounds as if he would be a much better guard than center, then I would trade back to take him. I don't think he will be a first rounder though.

    I think we look at Defensive end at 12. Perhaps NT. A pick Marrdro and I have always agreed on.
    “What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
    Dilfer

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