Thread: Today’s topic: Offensive line

[size=13pt]Today’s topic: Offensive line[/size]

April 21st, 2008 – 10:22 AM

by Judd Zulgad
startribune.com


The issue: The Vikings shouldn’t have any major questions about their starting five in 2008 (although left tackle Bryant McKinnie could face disciplinary action from the NFL), but that doesn’t mean things are set for the future...

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Published April 22, 2008 12:33 am

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

Shane Frederick
Free Press Staff Writer


A year ago, I argued that the Minnesota Vikings had a chance to draft the new face of the franchise.....

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

A good line with no skill plays nets you no wins as well. You build skills first. An OL can come in and play within a year. t typically takes skill players 2-3 years to reach their prime.

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

A good line with no skill plays nets you no wins as well. You build skills first. An OL can come in and play within a year. t typically takes skill players 2-3 years to reach their prime.

Maybe you should go back and read up on how long it takes to learn our zone blocking scheme. hell, we put that in in 2006 and they still don't have it down.
Meanwhile it doesn't look like AD is going to need 3

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

A good line with no skill plays nets you no wins as well. You build skills first. An OL can come in and play within a year. t typically takes skill players 2-3 years to reach their prime.

Maybe you should go back and read up on how long it takes to learn our zone blocking scheme. hell, we put that in in 2006 and they still don't have it down.
Meanwhile it doesn't look like AD is going to need 3

Lol you think you will find a Rb hat breaks the league record fir rushing in every draft? lol...
Look at WR, QB...Cook was a rookie playing a different position and played pretty good.
I would say having the # 1 rush attack, showed the oline got had it down preety good. Unless youthink hose long runs were all AD.

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

A good line with no skill plays nets you no wins as well. You build skills first. An OL can come in and play within a year. t typically takes skill players 2-3 years to reach their prime.

Maybe you should go back and read up on how long it takes to learn our zone blocking scheme. hell, we put that in in 2006 and they still don't have it down.
Meanwhile it doesn't look like AD is going to need 3

Lol you think you will find a Rb hat breaks the league record fir rushing in every draft? lol...
Look at WR, QB...Cook was a rookie playing a different position and played pretty good.
I would say having the # 1 rush attack, showed the oline got had it down preety good. Unless youthink hose long runs were all AD.

How was that pass protection again?

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

A good line with no skill plays nets you no wins as well. You build skills first. An OL can come in and play within a year. t typically takes skill players 2-3 years to reach their prime.

Maybe you should go back and read up on how long it takes to learn our zone blocking scheme. hell, we put that in in 2006 and they still don't have it down.
Meanwhile it doesn't look like AD is going to need 3

Lol you think you will find a Rb hat breaks the league record fir rushing in every draft? lol...
Look at WR, QB...Cook was a rookie playing a different position and played pretty good.
I would say having the # 1 rush attack, showed the oline got had it down preety good. Unless youthink hose long runs were all AD.

Cook was a rookie in 2006, not 2007.

"singersp" wrote:

[size=13pt]Today’s topic: Offensive line[/size]

April 21st, 2008 – 10:22 AM

by Judd Zulgad
startribune.com


The issue: The Vikings shouldn’t have any major questions about their starting five in 2008 (although left tackle Bryant McKinnie could face disciplinary action from the NFL), but that doesn’t mean things are set for the future...

That was a pretty fair assesment that I agree with except one thing.

Why in the hell does everyone keep insisting that Cook is gonna be a Center.
Just doesn't make any damn sense why a team that runs quick slants/crossing routes would move a guy that is 6'6" right into the middle of those passing lanes which would do nothing more than obscure the QB's vision.

Nope, Cook, if he makes a move at all might be to the other tackle position but I doubt that.
Chase will probably get the nod for that, Cook will stay at RT and continue to get better and Mozes will step in at C.

Sure the hell wish McKinnie wouldn't have gone and done his shit so that Chase would have one more year to learn behind a Vet as Mozes will have.
;D

"kevoncox" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

Bolstering the offensive line should be the Vikings’ next order of business.

No, it should be their first order of business. You always build the line first, then the skill positions if you want to be successful

A good line with no skill plays nets you no wins as well. You build skills first. An OL can come in and play within a year. t typically takes skill players 2-3 years to reach their prime.

go look at the number of different runningbacks who started games in this league.
A lot of them woudn't have been deemed great skill players, but they still do the job.
Why? because they have a good line opening up holes to run though, making for an easy 4 yards each run.

You can have Moss, TO, Harrison, and Holt, with Peterson and LT in the backfield, without a line, the qb wont have time to get the ball to the recievers, and there will be no holes for th backs to run through.


Teams can win some with no skill players, look at the 49ers.
No skill on that team aside from Gore.
(no line worth mentioning either though)


A prime example is the Eagles.
They have NO skill players at WR at all.
For years their best reciever was pinkston, yet they still had one of the better passing attacks. Why? because they have a good O line, who can give McNabb time to find a target.
Even unskilled skill players are servicable.
As long as they are given a fair chance, usually they can do at least SOMETHING.

I guess my point is a team with an incredible O line, but below average skill players
might be able to beat a team full of skill players but no line to speak of.