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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    "keystonevike" wrote:
    In regards to FA, if the Pats end up slapping a franchise tag on Cassell (as expected), our best bets (although old) would be either Garcia or Warner. Any of the others would not be able to get us where we want to go.

    Just my opinion.
    Agreed.
    I perfer Garcia.
    He's played in the WC offense and provides leadership.
    I still believe that TJACK can be our quarterback.
    If you look at his wins/losses and the games he's started, he par with Matt Ryan and Flacco.

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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    "VIKINGinGEORGIA" wrote:
    "keystonevike" wrote:
    In regards to FA, if the Pats end up slapping a franchise tag on Cassell (as expected), our best bets (although old) would be either Garcia or Warner. Any of the others would not be able to get us where we want to go.

    Just my opinion.
    Agreed.
    I perfer Garcia.
    He's played in the WC offense and provides leadership.
    I still believe that TJACK can be our quarterback.
    If you look at his wins/losses and the games he's started, he par with Matt Ryan and Flacco.
    Stats don't always mean squat.
    Flacco has legit chance to win the SB as a rookie.
    Ryan came up big head-to-head w/ TJack.


    When it's all said and done, providing they all stay healthy, Flacco and Ryan will go down in NFL history.

    TJack on the other hand...well, he'll go down anyway.
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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    If watching the playoff games isn't enough to drive home the point that the O.L should top the priority list then I am not sure what would. Keeping pressure off of the QB is the most important thing you can do for your team in the playoffs.

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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    Some notes from all the articles.....

    Featured comment....

    Time for Coach Childress and T-Jack to go!
    It is time for the Zygi to wake up, and fire Coach Childress, and release T-Jack. I will not renew my season tickets until this is done.
    Everytime I see shit like this I just marvel at the fans of this team.
    10 wins, division winner, steady improvement and the guy is so short sighted he wants to give up his season tickets cause "He isn't happy".

    At one point in my life I actually thought we had some intelligent football fans.
    Now I see why we can't sell out playoff games or our regular season games for that matter.

    Simply Amazing.... :

    With the exception of safety Darren Sharper and center Matt Birk, the other 20 starters, as well as all three specialists, are under contract through next season.
    And most of those 20 starters and specialists should be damn comfortable with the system.

    Again, not sure why all the gloom and doom from the "Vikings Fans".
    Maybe they aren't as knowledgable about the game as I have thought my whole life.

    Though the draft could be rich at quarterback (Georgia junior Matthew Stafford has decided to enter the draft, and Oklahoma's Sam Bradford also might decide to go the NFL), the Vikings would be making quite a gamble on a rookie quarterback to lead them deep into the postseason. The success of Baltimore's Joe Flacco is the exception rather than the rule.
    Can you say, "No way in hell" that they use thier first round (or even 2nd round) pick on a QB.

    There are either retreads (Kurt Warner, Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia) or recycles (Chris Simms, J.P. Losman, Kyle Boller, Byron Leftwich, David Carr and Rex Grossman) who have been benched in the past two seasons.
    Regardless of what article you've read, what rumor some waterboy has put out there.......These are the guys that are available.....

    I sure the hell don't see much of an upgrade in any of those names except the first 3 and I am not so sure about Garcia.
    He is a 9-7 QB at best and we already have 2 of those cats.

    Wonder if they will make a push for Sage again.
    Hassleback interests me almost as much as Bulger.
    But again, and one more time for possible penetration.
    They are not available at this point and time.

    Unfortunately for the Vikings and their beleaguered head coach Brad Childress, there aren’t a ton of viable quarterback options available in free agency to help this team win immediately.
    DUH......What a dolt.
    I guess as you get to the end of his article you see what agenda he is pushing.....

    Favre also made it clear this past summer that if the Packers didn’t want to let him play in Green Bay he wanted a chance to play against them.
    Anyway, looks like the lunacy and the retards that are associated with it are upon us my friends.
    :'(
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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Some notes from all the articles.....



    Everytime I see shit like this I just marvel at the fans of this team.
    10 wins, division winner, steady improvement and the guy is so short sighted he wants to give up his season tickets cause "He isn't happy".



    Again, not sure why all the gloom and doom from the "Vikings Fans".
    Maybe they aren't as knowledgable about the game as I have thought my whole life.






    Anyway, looks like the lunacy and the retards that are associated with it are upon us my friends.
    :'(

    Yes Marr, we did improve marginally in our record over 3 years. You also have to look at the strength of the league and where our opportunities are. In his first year as a coach the Bears were 13-3 and they went to the SB. Winning the division that year would have been a pretty tough task for any other team in the division and the Bears were dominant enough to make a wild card team an unlikely as a SB rep.

    Last year there were also teams in the NFC who were solid teams. The Cowboys ended up choking though and the Giants made an improbable run, but that is not something you can expect to repeat over time as they proved yesterday.

    This year we had a weak NFC that was very ripe for the picking and the AFC is weaker than it has been in over a decade, maybe longer.
    The number 4 and 6 seeds are playing for the championship in the NFC and in the AFC, there is not team that looks to be unbeatable.

    So while you can sit there and say that a fans view is myopic because they fail to look at a small incremental improvement in win % as a reason for optimism, I actually see that view as myopic because it doesn't take into account the fact that had the staff addressed a few positions last year that everybody except them knew were weak, we could be in the SB this year and have a great shot at winning it.

    So yes, we may be better record wise than last year, but even if we switch QB, C and RT over the summer, we don't know what other team may be on the rise and become a dominant team that can beat us no matter what we have for talent.

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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    "VIKINGinGEORGIA" wrote:
    "keystonevike" wrote:
    In regards to FA, if the Pats end up slapping a franchise tag on Cassell (as expected), our best bets (although old) would be either Garcia or Warner. Any of the others would not be able to get us where we want to go.

    Just my opinion.
    Agreed.
    I perfer Garcia.
    He's played in the WC offense and provides leadership.
    I still believe that TJACK can be our quarterback.
    If you look at his wins/losses and the games he's started, he par with Matt Ryan and Flacco.
    It would be different if Jackson were a rookie, but you can't treat him as such anymore.

    He's been in the league for THREE YEARS.

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    I've lost all faith in in T-jack, I say get Garcia's jiggly butt in here.
    I bet you could use a cool one huh Clark...Now you're talkin Eddie...

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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

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    I've lost all faith in in T-jack, I say get Garcia's jiggly butt in here.
    Tampa will resign him.

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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Some notes from all the articles.....



    Everytime I see pooh like this I just marvel at the fans of this team.
    10 wins, division winner, steady improvement and the guy is so short sighted he wants to give up his season tickets cause "He isn't happy".



    Again, not sure why all the gloom and doom from the "Vikings Fans".
    Maybe they aren't as knowledgable about the game as I have thought my whole life.






    Anyway, looks like the lunacy and the Challenged Hillybilly Lovers that are associated with it are upon us my friends.

    :'(

    Yes Marr, we did improve marginally in our record over 3 years. You also have to look at the strength of the league and where our opportunities are. In his first year as a coach the Bears were 13-3 and they went to the SB. Winning the division that year would have been a pretty tough task for any other team in the division and the Bears were dominant enough to make a wild card team an unlikely as a SB rep.

    Last year there were also teams in the NFC who were solid teams. The Cowboys ended up choking though and the Giants made an improbable run, but that is not something you can expect to repeat over time as they proved yesterday.

    This year we had a weak NFC that was very ripe for the picking and the AFC is weaker than it has been in over a decade, maybe longer.
    The number 4 and 6 seeds are playing for the championship in the NFC and in the AFC, there is not team that looks to be unbeatable.

    So while you can sit there and say that a fans view is myopic because they fail to look at a small incremental improvement in win % as a reason for optimism, I actually see that view as myopic because it doesn't take into account the fact that had the staff addressed a few positions last year that everybody except them knew were weak, we could be in the SB this year and have a great shot at winning it.

    So yes, we may be better record wise than last year, but even if we switch QB, C and RT over the summer, we don't know what other team may be on the rise and become a dominant team that can beat us no matter what we have for talent.
    I hear ya my friend, however, this staff has taken a very methodic approach to rebuilding this team.
    Could they have gone out and tried to get a Vet at each and every position?
    Probably and I know alot of fans, me included would have been alot happier with that approach, however,.....

    They have gone the long route that mostly focused on plugging rookies in over the last 3 years and only brining in Vets were they thought they needed to and those that they did bring in weren't the old grizzled Vets one would think they would have but rather a predominance of guys coming off thier first contract that in almost all instances took some time to get used to the system.

    Long story short, sure the other teams could in all actuality go out and spend huge dollars and instantly make themselves contenders, but that effort would be short lived.
    The approach this staff has taken appears to be an approach that will keep up competitive for many years to come.

    Add another piece (possibly QB) via FA and 3 or 4 more rooks for depth and you have a damn nice (YOUNG) team ready to take the next step.

    Back to my point, I find it amazing that most fans can't see that and would make comments like the one I quoted.
    Again, I really thought our fans were more "Football Smart" than that.

    Key note:
    When I was up at the Iggles game, there was a brochure on each chair.
    In it they were advertising season tickets for $99.00.
    $99.00 Fricken dollars.
    Causes one to wonder doesn't it.
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    Re: QB stability tops Vikings coaching staff's priority list

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Some notes from all the articles.....



    Everytime I see pooh like this I just marvel at the fans of this team.
    10 wins, division winner, steady improvement and the guy is so short sighted he wants to give up his season tickets cause "He isn't happy".



    Again, not sure why all the gloom and doom from the "Vikings Fans".
    Maybe they aren't as knowledgable about the game as I have thought my whole life.






    Anyway, looks like the lunacy and the Challenged Hillybilly Lovers that are associated with it are upon us my friends.

    :'(

    Yes Marr, we did improve marginally in our record over 3 years. You also have to look at the strength of the league and where our opportunities are. In his first year as a coach the Bears were 13-3 and they went to the SB. Winning the division that year would have been a pretty tough task for any other team in the division and the Bears were dominant enough to make a wild card team an unlikely as a SB rep.

    Last year there were also teams in the NFC who were solid teams. The Cowboys ended up choking though and the Giants made an improbable run, but that is not something you can expect to repeat over time as they proved yesterday.

    This year we had a weak NFC that was very ripe for the picking and the AFC is weaker than it has been in over a decade, maybe longer.
    The number 4 and 6 seeds are playing for the championship in the NFC and in the AFC, there is not team that looks to be unbeatable.

    So while you can sit there and say that a fans view is myopic because they fail to look at a small incremental improvement in win % as a reason for optimism, I actually see that view as myopic because it doesn't take into account the fact that had the staff addressed a few positions last year that everybody except them knew were weak, we could be in the SB this year and have a great shot at winning it.

    So yes, we may be better record wise than last year, but even if we switch QB, C and RT over the summer, we don't know what other team may be on the rise and become a dominant team that can beat us no matter what we have for talent.
    I hear ya My Sexy Little Pixie, however, this staff has taken a very methodic approach to rebuilding this team.
    Could they have gone out and tried to get a Vet at each and every position?
    Probably and I know alot of fans, me included would have been alot happier with that approach, however,.....

    They have gone the long route that mostly focused on plugging rookies in over the last 3 years and only brining in Vets were they thought they needed to and those that they did bring in weren't the old grizzled Vets one would think they would have but rather a predominance of guys coming off thier first contract that in almost all instances took some time to get used to the system.

    Long story short, sure the other teams could in all actuality go out and spend huge dollars and instantly make themselves contenders, but that effort would be short lived.
    The approach this staff has taken appears to be an approach that will keep up competitive for many years to come.

    Add another piece (possibly QB) via FA and 3 or 4 more rooks for depth and you have a gol 'darnit nice (YOUNG) team ready to take the next step.

    Back to my point, I find it amazing that most fans can't see that and would make comments like the one I quoted.
    Again, I really thought our fans were more "Football Smart" than that.

    Key note:
    When I was up at the Iggles game, there was a brochure on each chair.
    In it they were advertising season tickets for $99.00.

    $99.00 Fricken dollars.

    Causes one to wonder doesn't it.
    the one thing that i'm sick of though with this whole rebuilding talk is that teams show dramatic improvement over the course of a season, sometimes, like in the cards case, in a several week span.
    we have showed marginal improvement in 3 years.
    now improving enough to make a legitmate run at a super bowl is a different story.
    but squeezing into the playoffs in a shitty division and then losing at home in the first round in year 3 does not strike me as a staff doing a great job.
    again, why does the team have to be perfect for childress to make it better?
    look at all the teams that had great regular seasons, or even the teams that are sitting in the final four.
    they have their faults, some glaring, but the coaches find ways to work around that and utilize what they have to win games.
    to me, when we win i feel like we are just more talented than the teams we beat and have rarely, if ever, won a game cuz we out smarted the other team.
    i was talking to my brother, and i told him that the only way i see us really getting pushed over the top and overcoming a mediocre staff at best is to get a top 5 nfl qb, or just build such dominant fronts on each side of the ball that we can just control the game.
    if we have to continue to have childress have to be smarter than the other coach i can't see us being able to advance very far.

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