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    Re: Possible trade for number one pick?

    "Desertvikingfan" wrote:
    "Purplexing" wrote:
    "Hawkeye23" wrote:
    "Purplexing" wrote:
    Expanding on what Vikes09 wrote:

    Any time a team can significantly upgrade their QB, MLB or K, they should do so.
    Those are the three most important players on the field.

    I doubt the Vikings will move up to the number one slot, but they may move up a few slots to draft Quinn.

    It would depend on what they can determine other teams are doing to move up ahead of them.

    As far as WR goes, there are between 1 to 4 WRs on the field in nearly all offensive plays from scrimmage.
    So WRs are, individually, less important than QB on offense, and upgrading the WR unit is usually less effective than upgrading at QB.

    Drafting Quinn doesn't mean the Vikings couldn't also upgrade their WR unit.
    The draft is deep in WRs and some vet WRs will be cut after pre-season ends.

    Moving up more than 2 spots to get Quinn, or to the number one pick to get CJohnson, would eliminate too many other draft picks, or players, so that would not net as much of an overall improvement in the team.
    i'd say just QB and safety are the most important MLB's are good to have all around skill and kickers aren't that important.
    Adam Vinatieri?
    Ihate kickers and this one in particular after he missed that FG the end of the first half and cost me a grand!!! Ask Parcells what he thinks of the importance of kickers! (and holders)
    parcells doesn't even like football he's an idiot

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    Re: Possible trade for number one pick?

    "Purplexing" wrote:
    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    No, QB, MLB, and arguably kicker are the most important. I would say EVERY position is important but those are big. Your football team will be about as good as your Quarterback unless the rest of the team is absolutely stellar. They are also the leader of the offense. The Kicker will likely get you the most points out of any player on the team. MLB is the leader of the defense.
    Classic, recent contrasting situation compared:

    SB, 2007:

    Peyton Manning vs. Rex Grossman

    Bears D vs. Colts O

    PManning vs. Bears D

    Rex Grossman vs. Colts D

    Urlacher vs. P.Manning

    Vinatieri vs. ????(Bears Kicker's name escapes me now)


    actually i believe robbie gould(is his name) made the pro bowl.
    kickers are more imporatnat than they should be, but they are important.
    it's sad that a team can fight and battle and then some sissy in overtime comes out and kicks a 40 yarder and that team wins.
    but nonetheless.


    enough of this rah rah, we'll come together bull donkey.
    if the plan is to draft and add players to 2nd and 3rd year players and expect to compete with teams that have more veterans with proven talent and their own drafts, it's ridiculous.
    what most of the optimist fail to see is there are other teams with talent, and what you have to do is compare their talent to our talent.
    not the potential of what our talent can be a year or 2 from now.
    but our talent right now against their's based on what they have done.
    we lose that battle guys, sorry.
    everyone is looking to add through the draft.
    only difference is most of the teams don't need all 6-7 picks to come in and contribute right away.
    LET THAT WHICH DOES NOT MATTER, TRULY SLIDE

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    Re: Possible trade for number one pick?

    "bigbadragz" wrote:
    "Purplexing" wrote:
    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    No, QB, MLB, and arguably kicker are the most important. I would say EVERY position is important but those are big. Your football team will be about as good as your Quarterback unless the rest of the team is absolutely stellar. They are also the leader of the offense. The Kicker will likely get you the most points out of any player on the team. MLB is the leader of the defense.
    Classic, recent contrasting situation compared:

    SB, 2007:

    Peyton Manning vs. Rex Grossman

    Bears D vs. Colts O

    PManning vs. Bears D

    Rex Grossman vs. Colts D

    Urlacher vs. P.Manning

    Vinatieri vs. ????(Bears Kicker's name escapes me now)


    actually i believe robbie gould(is his name) made the pro bowl.
    kickers are more imporatnat than they should be, but they are important.
    it's sad that a team can fight and battle and then some sissy in overtime comes out and kicks a 40 yarder and that team wins.
    but nonetheless.


    enough of this rah rah, we'll come together bull donkey.
    if the plan is to draft and add players to 2nd and 3rd year players and expect to compete with teams that have more veterans with proven talent and their own drafts, it's ridiculous.
    what most of the optimist fail to see is there are other teams with talent, and what you have to do is compare their talent to our talent.
    not the potential of what our talent can be a year or 2 from now.
    but our talent right now against their's based on what they have done.
    we lose that battle guys, sorry.
    everyone is looking to add through the draft.
    only difference is most of the teams don't need all 6-7 picks to come in and contribute right away.
    I totally agree.
    We need to fill some holes in FA so we can have the opportunities to get the BAPs in the draft.
    If we don't fill the holes we have to look at the BAP for particular positions.

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