Thread: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer
04-07-2011, 01:31 PM #31
Re: Peter King links Vikes to PalmerOriginally Posted by "midgensa" #1093018
I was listening to Kirwan and Ryan yesterday. They were talking about a drill they were doing were they went and redrafted based on player output/performance. Pretty interesing discussion, anyways, I went home and played around with it a bit. Aside from having some fun, I found out there are teams that draft a hell of alot worse than the Vikes, especially since 2000. Take a look at the Dolphins for instance if you don't like what the Vikes have done.
In the end, for the life of me I can't figure out why everyone on here (well almost everyone) seems to think these kids should be NFL ready when they hit the field.
For the most part, all of them play above what should be expected of rooks coming out. As I just told Bleed, if this damn organization could ever get stable, we would see alot more "Hits" on those later picks as the coaches would have more time to work with them before they ran them out onto the field.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
04-07-2011, 01:40 PM #32
Re: Peter King links Vikes to PalmerOriginally Posted by "kevoncox" #1093014
Take a look at what the Pats do. They always have a glut of picks. That isn't so that they can draft a whole bunch of players, it so that they can move around and pick a player that fits what they are going to do.
Because they can do that, they hit on more players.
The Vikes, in the Toby case, kindof did that last year. They got the kid they were targeting and he made the team and provided some nice depth and good reps when AD went down and in relief during games.
Because the Vikes are now "Pick Broke" they will be forced to take BPA when they pick this year and won't be able to "Target" specific players. That kindof attributes to their "Misses" being a bit higher than expected.
In the end, we won't see the end of this until the staff faces the truth of it and just tries to build the team through the normal process instead of continually mortaging the bank for players that can fix holes from bad picking (ala JA and our RDE issues).
Problem is, this organization isn't stable enough, nor is the fan base big enough to weather the storm that comes from rebuilding the team the way it should be built........
a. Through the draft.
b. Resign Corp players that can still play.
c. Add depth via FA by signing players coming off their first contract.
In the end, thats what they started to do in 2006. Unfortunately, they got away from that and look at the mess we are in now.
Something to think about, my good friend V-unit said (about 2007 or so) that we were getting into this mess, especially when it came to what we would have to do in 2010 and 2011 when it came to resigning players. I know he doesn't get on here much, but let me tell you, he hit it right on the head my friends......Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
04-07-2011, 05:46 PM #33
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Re: Peter King links Vikes to PalmerOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1093090
Gimme a break. This is the only fan site out there were posters believe rookies should play without making mistakes. Heck, most sites the fans understand that rookies shouldn't be even on the field their first year.
Problem for us, we keep fricken starting over every 3 or 4 years, that means we have to play those kids instead of letting the roster settle out to the point that rooks aren't expected to do anything other than play on ST's or do some backup duty.
04-07-2011, 07:09 PM #34
Re: Peter King links Vikes to PalmerOriginally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1093105
Pretty much what I've been saying for who knows how long now. I want a guy who knows what they're doing out there, not some young kid who makes mistake after mistake, costing us games.
Hmm... packers started over a few years ago, they just won a superbowl. Their starters all got hurt, and the depth they drafted has played fantastic. That's why they won. Our depth plays like shit.
By he way, our depth doesn't play like shit. Its a few starters that I would attribute that to.
Case in point, the secondary everyone seems to want to hack on, finished pretty high when it comes to pass defense and that was without pressure from the front 4. If those chuckleheads did their jobs we would have finished a hell of alot higher.
Same can be said for the rush defense. If a certain RDE would quit getting caught upfield rushing the QB on passing plays, when our Will LB'r is mugging inside, our S's and LB'rs wouldn't look like they are taking bad angles to RB's.
Nope, the rooks make mistakes, its expected. Whats not expected is the starters to be making those same type of bonehead plays.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
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