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    Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Carson Palmer is serious about not going back to Cincinnati. I've heard Marvin Lewis is acknowledging to people he knows in football that Palmer won't be back in Cincinnati, and the Bengals are looking into all of the top quarterback prospects. "Marvin knows how stubborn Carson is, and he thinks no matter what happens, the guy won't change his mind,' said one club executive. I believe that. But that doesn't mean the Bengals will deal him either.
    Palmer's not Carl Pickens or Corey Dillon, a disaffected star who was divisive in the locker room. He's been a classy franchise quarterback since stepping on campus in 2003. He's the team's billboard, though he's had a couple of shaky years in a row. The Bengals don't have a history of responding well to threats. What makes this interesting, though, is that Cincinnati would be able to get something decent for Palmer in trade. He's 31. He's healthy. He'd love to play in California (you listening, Jim Harbaugh?) and I'm sure would settle for Arizona.
    If both San Francisco and Arizona pass on a rookie high in the draft April 28, or pass on trading for Kevin Kolb of the Eagles, they'd be my leaders in the clubhouse -- joined by Minnesota -- in the race for Palmer. All of that could all be moot, of course, because of Bengals owner Mike Brown. He doesn't care much for, nor is affected by, a player holding him hostage, never mind a player Brown has grown to like a lot as a man.



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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "enlvikeman" #1092115
    Carson Palmer is serious about not going back to Cincinnati. I've heard Marvin Lewis is acknowledging to people he knows in football that Palmer won't be back in Cincinnati, and the Bengals are looking into all of the top quarterback prospects. "Marvin knows how stubborn Carson is, and he thinks no matter what happens, the guy won't change his mind,' said one club executive. I believe that. But that doesn't mean the Bengals will deal him either.
    Palmer's not Carl Pickens or Corey Dillon, a disaffected star who was divisive in the locker room. He's been a classy franchise quarterback since stepping on campus in 2003. He's the team's billboard, though he's had a couple of shaky years in a row. The Bengals don't have a history of responding well to threats. What makes this interesting, though, is that Cincinnati would be able to get something decent for Palmer in trade. He's 31. He's healthy. He'd love to play in California (you listening, Jim Harbaugh?) and I'm sure would settle for Arizona.
    If both San Francisco and Arizona pass on a rookie high in the draft April 28, or pass on trading for Kevin Kolb of the Eagles, they'd be my leaders in the clubhouse -- joined by Minnesota -- in the race for Palmer. All of that could all be moot, of course, because of Bengals owner Mike Brown. He doesn't care much for, nor is affected by, a player holding him hostage, never mind a player Brown has grown to like a lot as a man.
    I think the odds of seeing Palmer in purple are pretty slim. But I would rather see him than McNabb to be honest.

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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Thanks...I usually only come here to take a look these days.



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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1092116
    I think the odds of seeing Palmer in purple are pretty slim. But I would rather see him than McNabb to be honest.
    I'm with you there. McNabb is slightly above Vince Young at the very bottom of my list.

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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "enlvikeman" #1092124
    Thanks...I usually only come here to take a look these days.
    Good to see you posting again.

    Gotta agree with the Doc, I don't think we are going to see Carson in purple this year. Truth of the matter is, the owner of the Bengals just doesn't cotton/or put up with threats/holdouts.

    If Carson wants to play he will have to do it as a Bengal. If he doesn't want to be a Bengal then he won't play football as the Bengals hold all the rights at least until 2015.

    From our good friends at Rotoworld.
    12/29/2005: Signed a six-year, $118.75 million contract extension through 2014. The deal included a $15 million signing bonus and a third-year option bonus of $9 million. 2011-2012: $11.5 million, 2013: $13 million, 2014: $14 million, 2015: Free Agent
    There are some out there that think the following might happen that could change that.....

    a. Bengals take a QB instead of a WR with their first pick which would cost them significantly. (= 1 Highly paid QB on the roster)
    b. Carson decides to show up for camp and says, I'm here, pay me my 11.5 Mill. (= 2 Highly paid QB's on the roster)
    c. Owner decides he can't pay both and elects to move Carson.

    Problem is, the team that would then get Carson would have to eat up that contract or atleast be ready to restructure it. If you watched the Bengals at all this year you would have seen that alot of their problems can be traced to QB accuracey, or in this case, lack there of.

    As a closet Benglas fan, trust me when I tell you that he had pretty good WR's at his disposal last year and flat out couldn't get it done (26 TDs/20 INT's) even though his numbers were pretty much on par for his career.

    On a side note, I would say, however, that if the Vikings did get Carson he would be the best QB this team has had in alot of years. I'm just not sure if we aren't seeing him on the start of a bad downward slide.
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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Anderson" #1092125
    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1092116
    I think the odds of seeing Palmer in purple are pretty slim. But I would rather see him than McNabb to be honest.
    I'm with you there. McNabb is slightly above Vince Young at the very bottom of my list.
    Count me in.

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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1092130
    Quote Originally Posted by "enlvikeman" #1092124
    Thanks...I usually only come here to take a look these days.
    Good to see you posting again.

    Gotta agree with the Doc, I don't think we are going to see Carson in purple this year. Truth of the matter is, the owner of the Bengals just doesn't cotton/or put up with threats/holdouts.

    If Carson wants to play he will have to do it as a Bengal. If he doesn't want to be a Bengal then he won't play football as the Bengals hold all the rights at least until 2015.

    From our good friends at Rotoworld.
    12/29/2005: Signed a six-year, $118.75 million contract extension through 2014. The deal included a $15 million signing bonus and a third-year option bonus of $9 million. 2011-2012: $11.5 million, 2013: $13 million, 2014: $14 million, 2015: Free Agent
    There are some out there that think the following might happen that could change that.....

    a. Bengals take a QB instead of a WR with their first pick which would cost them significantly. (= 1 Highly paid QB on the roster)
    b. Carson decides to show up for camp and says, I'm here, pay me my 11.5 Mill. (= 2 Highly paid QB's on the roster)
    c. Owner decides he can't pay both and elects to move Carson.

    Problem is, the team that would then get Carson would have to eat up that contract or atleast be ready to restructure it. If you watched the Bengals at all this year you would have seen that alot of their problems can be traced to QB accuracey, or in this case, lack there of.

    As a closet Benglas fan, trust me when I tell you that he had pretty good WR's at his disposal last year and flat out couldn't get it done (26 TDs/20 INT's) even though his numbers were pretty much on par for his career.

    On a side note, I would say, however, that if the Vikings did get Carson he would be the best QB this team has had in alot of years. I'm just not sure if we aren't seeing him on the start of a bad downward slide.
    I don't think the contract is an issue. Most teams would be fine paying 15million a year for a franchise QB.

    While the bengals had good recievers, they did not have a good team. The fact Palmer managed 26 TD and just shy of 4,000 yards is enough for me.

    I really hope ownership can make this work. I think he would be a great fit.

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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1092130
    Quote Originally Posted by "enlvikeman" #1092124
    Thanks...I usually only come here to take a look these days.
    Good to see you posting again.

    Gotta agree with the Doc, I don't think we are going to see Carson in purple this year. Truth of the matter is, the owner of the Bengals just doesn't cotton/or put up with threats/holdouts.

    If Carson wants to play he will have to do it as a Bengal. If he doesn't want to be a Bengal then he won't play football as the Bengals hold all the rights at least until 2015.

    From our good friends at Rotoworld.
    12/29/2005: Signed a six-year, $118.75 million contract extension through 2014. The deal included a $15 million signing bonus and a third-year option bonus of $9 million. 2011-2012: $11.5 million, 2013: $13 million, 2014: $14 million, 2015: Free Agent
    There are some out there that think the following might happen that could change that.....

    a. Bengals take a QB instead of a WR with their first pick which would cost them significantly. (= 1 Highly paid QB on the roster)
    b. Carson decides to show up for camp and says, I'm here, pay me my 11.5 Mill. (= 2 Highly paid QB's on the roster)
    c. Owner decides he can't pay both and elects to move Carson.

    Problem is, the team that would then get Carson would have to eat up that contract or atleast be ready to restructure it. If you watched the Bengals at all this year you would have seen that alot of their problems can be traced to QB accuracey, or in this case, lack there of.

    As a closet Benglas fan, trust me when I tell you that he had pretty good WR's at his disposal last year and flat out couldn't get it done (26 TDs/20 INT's) even though his numbers were pretty much on par for his career.

    On a side note, I would say, however, that if the Vikings did get Carson he would be the best QB this team has had in alot of years. I'm just not sure if we aren't seeing him on the start of a bad downward slide.
    Nice dig on Brett.

    Truth be told if we dont get a new center he would just end up being the next old qb who gets busted up and sent to retirement

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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1092130
    Quote Originally Posted by "enlvikeman" #1092124
    Thanks...I usually only come here to take a look these days.
    Good to see you posting again.

    Gotta agree with the Doc, I don't think we are going to see Carson in purple this year. Truth of the matter is, the owner of the Bengals just doesn't cotton/or put up with threats/holdouts.

    If Carson wants to play he will have to do it as a Bengal. If he doesn't want to be a Bengal then he won't play football as the Bengals hold all the rights at least until 2015.

    From our good friends at Rotoworld.
    12/29/2005: Signed a six-year, $118.75 million contract extension through 2014. The deal included a $15 million signing bonus and a third-year option bonus of $9 million. 2011-2012: $11.5 million, 2013: $13 million, 2014: $14 million, 2015: Free Agent
    There are some out there that think the following might happen that could change that.....

    a. Bengals take a QB instead of a WR with their first pick which would cost them significantly. (= 1 Highly paid QB on the roster)
    b. Carson decides to show up for camp and says, I'm here, pay me my 11.5 Mill. (= 2 Highly paid QB's on the roster)
    c. Owner decides he can't pay both and elects to move Carson.

    Problem is, the team that would then get Carson would have to eat up that contract or atleast be ready to restructure it. If you watched the Bengals at all this year you would have seen that alot of their problems can be traced to QB accuracey, or in this case, lack there of.

    As a closet Benglas fan, trust me when I tell you that he had pretty good WR's at his disposal last year and flat out couldn't get it done (26 TDs/20 INT's) even though his numbers were pretty much on par for his career.

    On a side note, I would say, however, that if the Vikings did get Carson he would be the best QB this team has had in alot of years. I'm just not sure if we aren't seeing him on the start of a bad downward slide.
    Nice dig on Brett.

    Truth be told if we dont get a new center he would just end up being the next old qb who gets busted up and sent to retirement

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    Re: Peter King links Vikes to Palmer

    If Palmer does retire, do you think the Bengals might be willing to trade the rights to him? I'd be curious to see how that pans out.

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