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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.

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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no


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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Why all the Blaine Gabbert hype?

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    I canít say I would feel comfortable taking this guy with a first-round pick mostly because he isnít a real balanced passer, drops his eye level too quickly and doesnít have a great feel in the pocket. Therefore, after watching him at length the past two days, he isnít a guy who I really have convictions on becoming a big-time NFL starter and think heís more of a boom or bust guy at this time.


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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087502
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no
    +1

    I have developmental QB fatigue.

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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087502
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no
    i 2nd that.. if this guy fell to us in the 2nd round, then im all for it.. but no way with the 12th overall pick.

    as for casey matthews.. i liked the way he played.. if he somehow falls to the 2nd round, u have to trade up and grab him. especially with leber as a FA and hes in his 30s.. i see potential in this kid.


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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087515
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087502
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no
    +1

    I have developmental QB fatigue.
    So what qualifies as a non-developmental QB? ALL QBs are developmental.

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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "Sajid28" #1087517
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087502
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no
    i 2nd that.. if this guy fell to us in the 2nd round, then im all for it.. but no way with the 12th overall pick.

    as for casey matthews.. i liked the way he played.. if he somehow falls to the 2nd round, u have to trade up and grab him. especially with leber as a FA and hes in his 30s.. i see potential in this kid.
    Trade up from the No. 12 pick in the second round to draft a kid who is projected by very few as a late 2nd-rounder and by most as a 3rd or 4th rounder?

    Seems like a fantastic idea.

    Seriously ... what is everyone's love of Casey Matthews all of a sudden? All you people saw him for the first time the other night and saw two good plays and think he is first round material because of is name?

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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087536
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087515
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087502
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no
    +1

    I have developmental QB fatigue.
    So what qualifies as a non-developmental QB? ALL QBs are developmental.
    Well, Cam Newton would certainly fall into that category.

    I guess if I had to place a metric on it, I would say if they could come in and play productively but not perfectly in the first year and be competent in their second year then they are not developmental.

    If you want recent history then I would say players like Bradford,Rothlisberger, Brady, Manning, Rivers, Ryan, Brees and Flaco were not developmental QB's.

    I would list guys like Russell, TJ, Tebow, Henne, Brohm, Clausen etc as guys who have potential but will take more years and more risk to develop.

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    Re: Official: The Vikings have the 12th overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087541
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087536
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1087515
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087502
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087501
    Quote Originally Posted by "skum" #1087495
    Not surprising but

    Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.
    Newton enters draft
    I hope that Gabbert jumps him on the charts as many are projecting will happen ... That will at least give us an outside shot of getting him.
    Please no
    +1

    I have developmental QB fatigue.
    So what qualifies as a non-developmental QB? ALL QBs are developmental.
    Well, Cam Newton would certainly fall into that category.

    I guess if I had to place a metric on it, I would say if they could come in and play productively but not perfectly in the first year and be competent in their second year then they are not developmental.

    If you want recent history then I would say players like Bradford,Rothlisberger, Brady, Manning, Rivers, Ryan, Brees and Flaco were not developmental QB's.

    I would list guys like Russell, TJ, Tebow, Henne, Brohm, Clausen etc as guys who have potential but will take more years and more risk to develop.
    I don't think there is a QB out there that won't take time to develop, and they aren't very common either. Manning threw 30 picks his first year, so he wasn't productive as a rookie, nor was Rivers because he didn't play his first two years. Brees sucked his first three years so he definitely would be "developmental." The ONLY qb I can see succeeding his rookie year in this class is Cam Newton just because of his athleticism and poise. Every QB in this class has major question marks.

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