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04-17-2008, 12:16 PM #21
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
This would be fantastic!
I am not at all excited about our position in the first round this year...Seems like any DE available at our pick doesn't really fit what we need.
I would be so damn happy if this became a reality!
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04-17-2008, 12:18 PM #22
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
It would solve our problem as for the pass rushing Def. We wouldn't have to blitz our LB's which'll help our pass defense
Rosie O'Donnell is a dude!
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04-17-2008, 12:19 PM #23
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
Not exactly on topic, but Fox sports seems to always do a good job at being one of the first people to report stuff...

Thanks Josdin00 for the sig!
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04-17-2008, 12:21 PM #24
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
"Mr-holland" wrote:
Yeah it would, i really hope this deal gets doneIt would solve our problem as for the pass rushing Def. We wouldn't have to blitz our LB's which'll help our pass defense
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04-17-2008, 12:24 PM #25
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
Wow.... I think I'd jump on that one.... 1st and a 3rd is a lot, but I would say it's sort of playing it safe, as you're giving up a 3rd rounder for insurance against a bust (which any DE we draft will have)... Allen led the NFL last year in sacks, right????
The drawback will be his contract, but we do have the contract God working for us.... so we can afford him.
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04-17-2008, 12:27 PM #26
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
"ThorSPL" wrote:
Yeah he lead the league in sacks and he missed the first two gamesWow.... I think I'd jump on that one.... 1st and a 3rd is a lot, but I would say it's sort of playing it safe, as you're giving up a 3rd rounder for insurance against a bust (which any DE we draft will have)... Allen led the NFL last year in sacks, right????
The drawback will be his contract, but we do have the contract God working for us.... so we can afford him.
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04-17-2008, 12:30 PM #27
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
Jared Allen?? the man is an icon for the Chiefs,I don´t know how much they would demand for him,our 1,2 and 3 picks? .I d give away our 1 and 2 ,besides we have some salary space available....,,Naaaah that s not gonna happen..
Nice avatar Holland ,one of the finest TV Seires ever created,Gandolfini is God.
El underdog.
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04-17-2008, 12:32 PM #28
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
"El" wrote:
Hes coming in for a visit, i could see it happeningJared Allen?? the man is an icon for the Chiefs,I don´t know how much they would demand for him,our 1,2 and 3 picks? .I d give away our 1 and 2 ,besides we have some salary space available....,,Naaaah that s not gonna happen..
Nice avatar Holland ,one of the finest TV Seires ever created,Gandolfini is God.

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04-17-2008, 12:33 PM #29
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
Lets look at this from a few different perspectives......
a.
He fits the mold of what the Vikes like in a FA and are willing to over spend on to get.....
26 years old.
4 years experience.
Can play in the system for life of his contract.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...e?statsId=6885
b. Both teams have the CAP to sign him and still have money to sign thier rookies.......
2
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
$26049700
8
Minnesota Vikings
$16604400
http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp
c.
d.
Who would he be playing with......
Tampa - 2nd best defense overall (Yds per game)
Vikings - 20th best defense overall (Yds per game)
Tampa - 3rd total points allowed
Vikings - 12th total points allowed
Vikes
91 Ray Edwards DE 23 6-5 268 2 Purdue
73 Otis Grigsby DE 27 6-3 260 2 Kentucky
[s]99 Erasmus James DE 25 6-4 266 3 Wisconsin [/s]
92 Jayme Mitchell DE 24 6-6 285 2 Mississippi
96 Brian Robison DE 24 6-3 267 R Texas
[s]95 Kenechi Udeze DE 25 6-3 281 4 USC [/s]
97 Kenderick Allen DT 29 6-5 328 5 LSU
90 Fred Evans DT 24 6-4 305 2 Texas State
93 Kevin Williams DT 27 6-5 311 5 Oklahoma State
94 Pat Williams DT 35 6-3 317 11 Texas A&M
95 Ellis Wyms DT 29 6-3 290 7 Mississippi State
Tampa
90 Gaines Adams DE 24 6-5 260 R Clemson
92 Charles Bennett DE 25 6-3 245 2 Clemson
93 Kevin Carter DE 34 6-6 305 13 Florida
94 Marques Douglas DE 31 6-2 292 7 Howard
79 Marquies Gunn DE 24 6-4 264 R Auburn
71 Jovan Haye DE 25 6-2 285 3 Vanderbilt
96 Jimmy Wilkerson DE 27 6-2 290 5 Oklahoma
95 Chris Hovan DT 29 6-2 298 8 Boston College
96 Greg Peterson DT 24 6-5 286 R North Carolina Central
98 Ryan Sims DT 27 6-4 315 6 North Carolina
91 Greg White DL 28 6-3 268 1 Minnesota
e.
KC wouldn't have to worry about trading to either team as both Tampa and Vikes are NFC and not AFC teams limiting how many times Jared would play them.
f.
Both teams run the same defense.
A few things to consider about the bucs......
Sizing up the roster
The roster limit during the offseason and training camp is 80. The Bucs are at 77, meaning they will need to release players as they sign picks.
It sounds like a lot of bodies, until you consider that the Bucs train in the heat of Central Florida. At least three or four of those players could start the season on the physically unable to perform list. Another half-dozen or so will be limited to one practice per day. There also are typically three or four players out with minor injuries.
"It's going to change the way we practice," Gruden said of the limited roster.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/footb...icle444861.eceFive QBs who have won games for Tampa Bay
Gruden tossed this fun fact out: Five of the six quarterbacks on the roster have won games for Tampa Bay. Jake Plummer is the odd man out (for a lot of reasons). Their records, including playoffs: Jeff Garcia (8-6), Brian Griese (10-7), Chris Simms (7-9), Luke McCown (1-2), Bruce Gradkowski (3-8).
I hope we don't let him get out the door as he could go with the better D as a first option.
Ole Bryzcheapski better have been hording money for just such a pick.
;D
Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
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04-17-2008, 12:37 PM #30
Re: Jared Allen to Vikings? Or Buccaneers?
"Zeus" wrote:
But then we would just get to meet Jared Allen instead...it might turn out even BETTER than you thought."cajunvike" wrote:
LOL - if the Vikings trade away their first-round pick - can I get a refund on my draft party ticket?I certainly hope that it is the former...if the price is right, that is.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8043460/Chiefs'-Allen-talking-with-Vikings,-Bucs
=Z=
A party is STILL a party!!!BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE
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