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    No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

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    [size=18px]No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down[/size]

    by Brian Hansel

    The Minnesota Vikings have been our magnificent obsession since the late Sixties when Bud Grant came down from Winnipeg.

    Grant's timing for entering the NFL was perfect. The National Football League was just starting to rev up.

    The teams that Grant coached, courtesy of mastermind Jim Finks, won a ton of games from 1968-1977. They dominated the Central Division and they were the first team ever to play in four Super Bowls.

    None of Grant's four successors have made it to the big one although some have come close. Now we have Brad Childress to second guess.

    The Vikings need a motivator. Mike Tice was not that guy. Will Childress have that strength? The early reports are good but it will be nice to see him win some football games.

    While Grant was a member of a wild, fun and dynamic period in NFL history, Childress is not. The NFL is controlled, structured, scrutinized, incorporated and very business-like these days. It’s dripping with dough.

    ESPN's slick and glittery draft day coverage regurgitated endless scenes of linebackers stomping ballcarriers and quarterbacks throwing touchdown strikes. They had instant footage and statistics on draft choices right down to their favorite brand of toothpaste. If they know these facts, the teams know them too,

    If this hype is correct, why have the Vikings been shut out on Super Bowl trips for the last 30 years? Is the answer to be found in the draft?

    The official NFL website has draft records going back to 1982. Here is what they reveal.

    If the No. 1 draft pick is the be-all and end-all to a team's success — and there is a lot of evidence to the contrary — then the Vikings have favored defense. Yet they have not been very good at picking first round winners.

    The Vikings have had an obsession with drafting bad defensive ends. They have picked seven of them. The only one that became a great player, and that took time, was Chris Doleman. It has been Minnesota's Achilles Heel. Gerald Robinson, Derrick Alexander, Duane Clemons and Dimitrius Underwood were all stinkers. The jury is still out on Kenechi Udeze and Erasmus James.

    The Vikings have also had a weak spot for running backs. Robert Smith, who spent as much time in rehab as he did on the field, was the only No. 1 draft pick that ever panned out. "Disco" Darin Nelson, D.J. Dozier and Michael Bennett just did not play up to their draft hype.

    It's ironic that Minnesota has had so many good quarterbacks. The only one they have drafted over the last 25 years was Daunte Culpepper, who had some decent years before his dice playing got him into trouble.

    They have only used their No. 1 pick on two wide receivers during this time, and yet they have come up with superstars like Cris Carter and Randy Moss.

    They do not spend No. 1 picks on secondary people — picking only two — Joey Browner and DuWayne Washington. Nor do they worry much about offensive linemen. They have drafted only three tackles and one guard with their first pick. They have not made a center their top choice or a tight end in the last quarter century — yet they have had some very good ones.

    From 1989-1992, the Vikings did not have a No. 1 draft choice. They traded them all away to Dallas for an I-back named Herschel Walker who played one great game before he tanked. Those picks helped Dallas win two Super Bowl titles in the 1990s. The Cowboys ought to put former Viking GM Mike Lynn in their Hall of Fame.

    The Vikings have been one of the great Super Bowl support teams in recent years. If you want to make the Super Bowl, just call on the Vikings. Assistant coach Brian Billick leaves Minnesota and goes to Baltimore where they promptly win a Super Bowl. Bill Belichick goes to New England where they built a dynasty and win three Super Bowls in four years. Quarterback Brad Johnson helps Tampa Bay to the big game where he duels Oakland's Rich Gannon, another Viking alumni.

    The hype may be fine for television but when it comes to finding a great player you are as liable to find him at No. 6 as No. 1, or even get him off waivers.

    The Vikings have always been known as a good-passing, poor-running team with mediocre and sometimes poor defensive teams. They pack the stadium with purple and gold but they can't reach the Super Bowl. As they say, offense sells tickets, defense wins championships.

    Those Bud Grant days are far in the past but they still have some value because the Vikes made four trips to the Super Bowl in eight seasons under Grant, a guy who was just interested in moving the chains and playing defense. He went for discipline and usually favored starting veterans while giving rookies a chance to develop. Mr. Childress would do well to follow this blueprint.

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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    well i can say one thing, it's not just the Vikings that are let down by #1s. many many #1s don't live up to expectations. it's just a huge jump from college to the pros.

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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    Those Bud Grant days are far in the past but they still have some value because the Vikes made four trips to the Super Bowl in eight seasons under Grant, a guy who was just interested in moving the chains and playing defense. He went for discipline and usually favored starting veterans while giving rookies a chance to develop. Mr. Childress would do well to follow this blueprint.
    I think this is EXACTLY what we are seeing with the Childress era. He has said repeatedly that he just wants to keep the chains moving and the way he had shored up the offensive line, and brought in a good fullback that is what I am looking for.
    As far as the discipline goes...well that speaks for itself.
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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    "bmc342" wrote:
    well i can say one thing, it's not just the Vikings that are let down by #1s. many many #1s don't live up to expectations. it's just a huge jump from college to the pros.
    True. The headline could read, "No. 1’s have frequently let (insert any NFL team name) down".

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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

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    They have only used their No. 1 pick on two wide receivers during this time, and yet they have come up with superstars like Cris Carter and Randy Moss.


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    Cris Carter played for the Eagles before he came to the Vikings. Did we draft Anthony Carter with a number 1?
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    They have only used their No. 1 pick on two wide receivers during this time, and yet they have come up with superstars like Cris Carter and Randy Moss.
    What he's saying here is the vikings have used their #1 for two receivers (but both of them weren't) superstars like Chris Carter and Randy Moss.
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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    when was Bill Belichick ever part of the viking organization?

    i believe the previous viking coaches have let #1 players down.

    is it the fact they were taken at #1 or #6 or that a coach could get through to a certain player or not? was that the point of that article?

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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    the players mentioned might not have been superstars, but they were Good players, they just got better after they left, brad johnsons record as a viking from 92' to 98' was 22-10. not bad if you ask me, duane clemons did pretty good in KC, the dallas trade yes, total flop, screwed up at least 5 years, but not 25. years. i doubt every teams #1 pick turned up great. Yes teams are built in the draft, but a coach has to develop that talent and also be patient enough with the player and try to retain him. owners in the viking era were spoiled with the winning ways of Grant which is why he is a hall of fame coach, after the Bud Grant era coaches became impatient with players trading or letting players go as FA. i truly believe this WAS the problem with our beloved viking organization of the past, no patience, and therefor always mediocre to good, never terribly bad, but never a superbowl contender for long. and as fans were going to have to exersice the same patience. except for EJ. he sucks.

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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    This article is convoluted and obviously poorly written by the Cris Carter part ...
    I don't recall Belichik ever being with the Vikes either ... not much to gain from this ... just someone spouting off and not being very fair.
    I mean we drafte Culpepper, Randy f'ing Moss and Robert Smith all in the first round and they own damn near every single season record the Vikes have ... and many career ones. We also drafted Chris Doleman who was a bonified star lets see for arguments sake .... since 1982 first round Vikes are:
    Darrin Nelson, Joey Browner, Keith Millard, Chris Doleman, Gerald Robinson, DJ Dozier, Randall McDaniel, Robert Smith, Dewayne Washington, Todd Stuessie, Derrick Alexander, Korey Stringer, Duane Clemons, Dwayne Rudd, Randy Moss, Daunte Culpepper, Demetrius underwood, Chris Hovan, Michael Bennet, Bryant McKinnie, Kevin Williams, Kenechi Udeze, Troy Williamson and Erasmus James ....
    Lets see that is 11 Pro Bowlers out of 24 picks (and counting Udeze, Williamson and James already is a little early) ... a total of 43 pro bowls ... a Vikings all-time leading rusher ... and likely a couple of hall of famers (Moss and McDaniel .... if not Culpepper) .... I think that is a fairly good track record ... even the non pro bowlers have been solid at times like Washington and Hovan ...

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    Re: No. 1’s have frequently let Vikings down

    and then compare that to who the browns have drafted the past 5/6 years, two lineman who play for denver, tim couch who where is he?, braylon edwards and winslow are hurt. it can always be worse, j/k about EJ by the way.

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