03-24-2011, 04:45 PM #61
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1092378Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-24-2011, 05:03 PM #62
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1092398
For the both of you, going on the assumption that the staff will try to keep the roster together (sign key FA's) and decide not to go after a Vet QB, which one would you rather see under Center this year.
For me, .....
Ponder. I worry to much about injury issues and definately not at 12.
Locker. I think he was rated to high last year and wouldn't have been the number one QB taken off the board. Like this year, teams are seeing he has inconsistency issues with respect to accuracy. I think the selling point for me was how he nearly got the young WR, (Young I think) killed on those two high passes in the senior bowl. Second round? Yes, 12, no.
Mallet. Great arm. Makes all the throws. Looks great when he isn't pressured. Problem is, he will get pressured at the next level. Question is, can you teach pocket pressence and composure under pressure. I'd take him at 12 and gamble the new QB coach and O-coord can do what they were brougth in here for.
Newton. Absolutely love watching the kid play. Might actually be a good fit for our scheme if we can tweak it a bit to match his "Verticle Running" scheme he excelled with in college (for one year). Same with Mallet head. I would take him and 12 and trust the Coaches.
My guess, he won't be there.
Gabbert. The more I see of this kid the more I like him. Understands the game to the point it should translate easily to the next level. Mobile. Nice Arm and has a very quick release that fits the WCO, dink dunk, get it out quick passing scheme. He can also exploit the DB's if they leave our outside reciever single covered. I would take him at 12 and might even think about moving up to get him. Problem is, atleast for me, his lack of experience under Center.
Remember, the WCO is predicated on a couple of things, he has it when it comes to throwing, but what will he do when he turns his back to the defense in the play action area of the game. Will he be able to re-aquire the defense?
Having said all of that, I would take one of 3 at 12.........(in this order)
1. Gabbert (won't be there)
2. Newton (won't bet there)
3. Mallet (should be there unless a team ahead of us likes him more).
If none of those three are there I hope they take the pick and use it on a deal for Kolb.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-24-2011, 05:34 PM #63
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?As mentioned on the NFL network, a primary consideration is to draft someone who loves to play football, not someone with divided alliegence like McKinnie who wants to be singer or whatever he's trying to do.
I think the last point is crucial since the QB has to immerse his life in his profession to be a sucess. Successful QB's are the hardest working players on any team for the most part.
Mallet could be a steal with his arm...IF he's got the mental makeup and will to learn. Mobility/Dexterity can be improved with with time training. I remember when I had only been my full height for a few years, and I was a far far cry from athletic. Now, I'm a pretty good skier, snowboarder, rock climber, trail running fool!
Rodgers had the "lack of mobility" knock and now he's led the league in rushing.
Of course, dfoster just predicted that the Bengals go with Mallet at no.4! :huh:
But if Gabbert and Newton go 1 and 3, I think its at least a possibility!Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!
"Balance it on end and thats the third side of the coin!!" -wookiefoot
03-24-2011, 05:41 PM #64
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "mountainviking" #1092417Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-24-2011, 06:07 PM #65
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?
lol-- All I said was that I'm not going to be shocked if the Bengals take Mallett at 4. I do know they have him scheduled for a private workout, and the ASSUMPTION is that they are looking at him in the 2nd...
A- He will not be there in the 2nd for them, because Leslie will take him.
B- He has the "character guy" label, which slows down Brown not one bit
C- Same with the Vikes, but that's editorializing :P
Since we're jumpin' threads...
I'm sorry, but you better include Locker and Ponder into the conversation at 12, along with Gabbert, Newton and Mallett.
Put Locker and Ponder into the "Leslie Frazier/Speilman? job preservation better take at 12 category"
God forbid the Vikes pass on either at 12 and one or the other go all "franchise" on your collective asses for another team- Jesus, the threads would get ugly around here :P
You will not see any of them in the 2nd, and I bet you don't see Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd either... Goes back to my "too many teams needs, etc etc discussion.
...And since you are missing the 3rd, you will probably get "locked out" of Ricky Stanzi and Pat Devlin in the 4th.
It's Mallett at 12.
(Unless Brown takes him, per my "not shocked" prediction.)
Just like I said over a month ago. :P
(You can add NE to the QB "mix"--- with all those picks available---heard it here first B) - Maybe even GB, what with Flynn's contract expiring and his trade value increased-don't say you weren't warned, we're talking Ted Thompson here)
03-25-2011, 03:07 AM #66
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "dfosterf" #1092430
If you are even close to right, I'll come back later and eat crow. But if not, I expect you to eat Marmot.“What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
03-25-2011, 11:12 AM #67
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1092478
03-25-2011, 03:12 PM #68
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "dfosterf" #1092480
Possible,yes. Probable, no.
The only way the first round statistic holds up is when teams don't reach.
What you are suggesting sounds like a lot of reaching.
If the right QB is not there at 12 I pray they have the discipline to take a difference maker at another position,and go back to the free agent bandaid for one more year, or go with Webb.
I think there will be a suitable QB at 12. We'll just have to wait and see.“What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
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