03-18-2011, 06:30 AM #21
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1091813
I've posted a few posts here explaingin this exact thing. The CHildress era has been terrible at drafting.
Proof? We though Tice was bad. How much better was Childress? We had mid-early round picks, and what did we get?
Peterson, Harvin and Greenway. Those are great picks. However, those were first rounders. What else did we get? Rice. Ok, one great value pick. Other than that what? Some backups and players who shouldn't be starting, but are because we have a brutal roster at alot of positions.
Trading up for TJ? Stupid. Trading up for a mediocre powerback? Stupid. especially since we had a pick to grab a better runningback, multiple times.
How about Grabbing a 6th round center in the second? Good move.
Wait a second, something i find curious, over the past few years, Marrdro has been talking about how great Childress has been at drafting, but he'll also be the first to tell you when we point out a bad pick, that Childress doesn't make draft decisions.
I've decided Spielman is Marty's scapegoat. When we did a good move, it's Childress's doing. When we didn't, all Spielman.
03-18-2011, 07:26 AM #22
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?
Just don't think Locker is worth a #12 pick. Not aginst him, but would like to see us trade down before picking him up. I think we are going to see a lot of QB slide again this year.
03-18-2011, 08:20 AM #23
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "Brewtal" #1091836
Question, name the last good QB we had and the round he was drafted.
Name the top three QB's in Vikings History.
Tark, Kramer and Pep. two firsts and a second.
03-18-2011, 08:43 AM #24Waterboy
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Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1091829None
03-18-2011, 08:45 AM #25
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "stackithigh" #1091839
03-18-2011, 08:49 AM #26Waterboy
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Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1091748None
03-18-2011, 09:11 AM #27
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "stackithigh" #1091841
However, I'm curious, I saw a mock draft that saw CB Peterson drop to #7 I believe (49ers) and saw Prince drop to #11 (immediately before we pick)
What if either of those two CB's were available to us. I'd want to jump on that.
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1091829
03-18-2011, 02:32 PM #29
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1091809
Arm Strength/Injuries. Thanks for the quote. Again, I am happy that he showed more strength than some thought he would but you can't ignore the injuries. Will they keep re-occuring or will he, like Bradford, show they were only flukes.
By the way, loved this,.....
Marty- My damn arm is strong enough to throw a 3 yard checkdown on 3rd and 7.:laugh:
Mix that with a weak arm and you will see lots of picks to start off with.
Media Graders. Some are there cause they don't want to go back to the grind. Guys like Casserly are happy not being a GM anymore. Another one who questioned his arm strenght is now a DB coach......(Woodson).
12th Pick. Agree. We should get a damn fine player not only at 12, but in every round in that spot.
Again, a good post.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-19-2011, 03:29 AM #30
Re: NFL Network: Should The Vikings Draft A QB?Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1091873
That's a pretty good standard as far as I'm concerned.
One other crucial thing in my opinion is obtaining players to counter the strengths of the top team in the NFCN.
The Vikings were the top team the previous two years. The Bears went and got a player who owned our left tackle. I think it worked fairly well for them.
So what should we do?
Well we won't have the QB that can match Green Bays offense touchdown for touchdown. So we need to counter with defense.
We could use a penetrating Randle,Page,Millard, type tackle. KW was that when he was young but has been inconsistant lately.
I wouldn't mind a Pat Williams clone, but we need to stop the pass in our division, not the run.
One alternative might be to take a replacement for Ray, but I would prefer pressure up the middle.
Pressure up the middle always makes the ends better.
In addition we need to work on upgrading the nickel and dime packages.
Green Bay has more good receivers than we have good cover guys.
So we need to work on upgrading safety and cornerback.
Everybody is worried about QB, and I am too. But I think the key to beating Green Bay, Chicago, and Detroit is going to be defense.
I'm ok with bolstering the offensive line or taking a QB. But I think we will primarily be drafting defense this year.ďWhat takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. Itís the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
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