02-16-2011, 04:03 AM #31
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadOriginally Posted by "dfosterf" #1089630Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-16-2011, 04:06 AM #32
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadOriginally Posted by "dfosterf" #1089598
Let me ask you a question. Does the picks mean they will swap or does it mean these teams will get extra picks or both?Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-16-2011, 04:18 AM #33
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089633
You ARE a Viking fan, lol - compared to a Puker fan--lol You GET free agents, we LOSE 'em--
You get an extra pick, as early as the 3rd round.
This year is an excellent example for why I am tracking his "blog"
The Pack lost Aaron Kampman in free agency last year. (4-3 DE played a 3-4 OLB for us preceding year, premier 4-3 DE, suck ass 3-4 OLB, got top 4-3 DE $$$ in his new contract elsewhere)
As an aside (when discussing draft) note the HUGE $$$ vet 4-3 DE's get, just sayin' ...
Based on the new contract, he's a no-brainer 3rd round compensatory pick to the Packers this year. That is an extra 3rd round pick.
The problem? He got injured in the 8th game, and that is factored into what round pick the Pack gets in "compensation". The pick is purely extra, and comes from the league, not the acquiring team. ??I think I answered your question??
02-16-2011, 04:45 AM #34
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadRyan Kerrigan Purdue DE43 Reach/Value: +1
There's no question that the Vikings have multiple holes to address with the likely departures of Ben Leber, Pat Williams and Ray Edwards. Though Brian Robison has very much earned the opportunity to start at LDE, the defensive line will need to add a player or two for depth. Ryan Kerrigan is an excellent pass rusher who really came on strong in his senior season at Purdue and has skyrocketed up draft boards. As a player who's been compared to Jared Allen, it would be only too ideal to have Kerrigan backing him up in Minnesota until he's ready to take over. - Brett Stott, Vikings Analyst
From the Link dfosterf gave me in the "Top 5" thread. ABsolutely love the format they use, especially the "Reach Value" and they have Skums boy there for us at 12, Newton slipping to 15 and Mallet to 25.
Additionally they have us taking Tyron Smith OT at 43 Ricky Stanzi at 105, Jurrell Casey DT at 135, Lee Smith TE at 147, Kevin Kowalski C at
173, D. Johnson-Koulianos WR at 203.
Again, don't know the players, but I could live with upgrades at DE, OT, QB, DT, TE, C and WR.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-16-2011, 05:06 AM #35
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadTyron Smith
Pass blocking: Gets a good base in pass protection. Has long arms but has an inconsistent extension. Has a very good kick slide to the right. Smith doesn't get too wide but he maintains his area because he has quick feet. As Smith gets stronger, he'll more easily handle power rushers. Against speed rushers, Smith does really well when he can continue riding them to the outside.
Quickness: Very good quickness off the snap. Plays out of a two-point stance. That combined with his quickness helps Smith get in position faster than defenders. Uses his foot speed to mirror defenders.
Run blocking: As a junior, has played in a zone blocking scheme at USC. Because of that, he's not had to drive block much. But judging by his frame, Smith should get stronger in his lower body to anchor. Even though he comes out of his stance high, Smith typically keeps his pads low. Doesn't have the best initial hand punch. Can be inconsistent where he drives into a defender.
Strength: This is where Smith needs to get better. He's bulked up 20 pounds since entering college but needs to continue adding strength throughout his frame. When he's asked to drive block in the run game, he'll struggle moving defensive linemen around. Still, Smith gives very good effort and it takes a lot for a defender to beat him purely with a bull rush.
Technique: The biggest technical flaw on Smith is his hand placement. Smith's hand speed is fine but he doesn't always get proper placement. Where he needs to improve is extending his arms. Too often Smith lets defenders get into his frame and push him around. Footwork is technically correct and rarely makes a misstep.
Final word: Smith is starting to gain a lot of attention as an offensive tackle prospect. He's an easy player to fall in love with. He has a long, lean frame and is athletic. Smith gets out on the move as well as any offensive tackle you'll see and is loaded with potential.
Possesses ideal height and bulk with a large frame
Above average athleticism with pretty good mobility
Arm is strong enough to make all the necessary throws
Outstanding throwing mechanics and a great delivery
Able to buy time in pocket and make plays with feet
Can work under center and go through progressions
Tough and will stand tall in the pocket under duress
Intelligent student of the game with good football IQ
Mature and hard working w/ terrific leadership skills
A lot of experience against top-notch competition
Will force throws and make poor decisions at times
Does not handle pressure very well and will panic
Inconsistent in areas of touch, timing and accuracy
Struggles the further down the field he has to go
Often failed to come through in clutch situations
Some minor durability and off-the-field concerns
Jurrell Casey DT
The Skinny: The soon-to-be junior has a chance to be a truly dominant force at defensive tackle for the 2010 USC Trojans. At 61 and 295 pounds, Casey might be considered a bit small for a defensive tackle and he doesnt look body beautiful. However, underestimating him would be a serious mistake. His natural knee-bending ability and light feet allow him to play much bigger than his size. When asked to shoot gaps the All-Pac-10 performer flies between offensive linemen to the quarterback. Casey will have a chance to attack the passer more under new defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin, something which will surely gain the attention of NFL decision makers. The defensive tackle shows a versatile and sophisticated pass-rush repertoire, possessing standout bull rush, rip and swim moves. While his size is still NFL caliber, some will downgrade him in the evaluation process because he falls short of elite size for a defensive tackle. While his sophomore year was impressive, expectations are high for Casey as many believe his skill set is a perfect fit for new defensive coordinator Monte Kiffins cover-2 scheme.
Kevin Kowalski C
Versatile, intelligent leader who started 47 consecutive games. Excellent work ethic on and off the field. Decent height, but below-average mass for position. Appears to make good pre-snap reads and line calls. Keeps head up in stance and makes sound adjustments when zone blocking and defense blitzes/stunts; gets into position to pick up blitzes.
A step slow in Senior Bowl against elite defensive linemen; athleticism is an issue -doesn't show above-average lower-body strength and tends to lean into power rushers in effort to mask this weakness - appears top-heavy. May be more effective at guard.
7th round - may slip to UDFA after below-average performance at Senior Bowl.
I think the guy they had drafting for the Vikes on the mock above, didn't know we were gonna go away from the ZB scheme.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-16-2011, 05:56 AM #36
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadBut in this week's mock draft, the SB Nation folks have the Vikings going offense with both of their selections. With the first selection, we're back to where I believe they had us at in the first place, selecting Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert.In the second round, the Vikings turn to the offensive line, taking guard Danny Watkins out of Baylor.
No, I didn't put this in here because my good friend Mulletmalitia complained I didn't have any mocks that had us taking QBs. This one is in here cause it has us getting the top ranked QB.
......zing.......:laugh:Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-16-2011, 06:11 AM #37
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadLearn to love the draft.
And don't take it personal when the player I "mock" to your favorite team isn't the player you want your team to pick.
I loved that first quote.......
By the way, another one that has us taking Quinn.
12. Minnesota Vikings - North Carolina DE Robert Quinn
The NFL Combine will be crucial for Quinn after he missed the entire 2010 season for accepting over $5,000 in gifts from an agent. Certain to rise if he impresses in Indy, Quinn is a physical freak at 6'5/270 who finished second to only Derrick Morgan in 2009 ACC Defensive Player of the Year voting. Quinn reeled off 19 tackles, 11 sacks, and an eye-popping six forced fumbles as a sophomore. Vikings Nos. 2 and 3 ends Ray Edwards and Brian Robison are free agents.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-16-2011, 06:17 AM #38
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089631
1. We did have our backups starting, which made us look pretty inept.
2. Prince probably won't be there at 12.
If Prince was there I was saying, I'm saying I wouldn't steer away from him.
I remember numerous times Asher getting burned and Lito looking awful.
One thing we need to really look at though is two corners who can block on punt coverage. Almost every single time Camarillo had to fair catch because Lito got burned. He couldn't even block on a punt return. That is one area I hope we address this off season.
02-16-2011, 07:21 AM #39
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Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089631
So +1 Marrdro
However the real concern is with Cedric Griffin injury concerns and Winfield age we could be in the market for a CB.
Prince is a good cornerback, but he has not playing zone defense and would have to pick that up, however his skill set should allow him to do that - But he would be better of in a press/man coverage defense.
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02-16-2011, 08:21 AM #40
Re: "Mock Drafts I Like/Find Interesting" ThreadOriginally Posted by "skum" #1089661
Lets see who the off season goes. I might shift a bit, however I still think we have alot of depth and don't necessarily need to go high for a CB again this year. At some point you have to say I surrender and go with what you have/let them develop.
Right now, CB is one of those positions. S, IMHO is another one of those positions.
Husain stepped up/came from no were. Sanford and Johnson could do the same next year.
Again, wasn't that long ago everyone on here wanted Griff gone. It wasn't because he wasn't talented, it was because he looked bad being out there before he was ready. Eventually the light came on and he started to come around, before he got hurt.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
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