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    Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Surprise that it took so long for this to be posted.

    I would be interested in Kolb for the right price ... but I don't see Reid letting him go. He is under contract for only $1.4 million next season and with Vick's pounding he took, Kolb is a very solid backup to keep around.

    And we all know that Reid loves Kolb ... and has wanted to move him into the gig for years. Vick just forced his hand this season.

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1087292
    Surprise that it took so long for this to be posted.
    I know! Im pretty pumped I got to break it!
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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Kolb is still under contract.

    We could post many pages about players under contract on other teams.

    The Eagles won't just give Kolb away for nothing.

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    I think this is a dead issue unless he convinces them to release him. We don't have the draft picks to trade for what Philly will want to release him.

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1088021
    I think this is a dead issue unless he convinces them to release him. We don't have the draft picks to trade for what Philly will want to release him.
    I'm not saying we should ... But we definitely have enough to offer for Kolb. Pick No. 12 would quite possibly do the trick, especially if they lock up Vick past next season. Pick No. 12 and our Second-rounder would almost certainly get a deal done.

    Most analysts have us in the market for Kolb and it would seem he would fit in our incoming "system" as we will still be a WCO and he has been in one for a few years.

    Like I said ... I don't know if I would want him for those picks over what we could get for no picks or cheaper (McNabb, Young or Orton) ... But if we want him, we CAN go get him.

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1088028
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1088021
    I think this is a dead issue unless he convinces them to release him. We don't have the draft picks to trade for what Philly will want to release him.
    I'm not saying we should ... But we definitely have enough to offer for Kolb. Pick No. 12 would quite possibly do the trick, especially if they lock up Vick past next season. Pick No. 12 and our Second-rounder would almost certainly get a deal done.

    Most analysts have us in the market for Kolb and it would seem he would fit in our incoming "system" as we will still be a WCO and he has been in one for a few years.

    Like I said ... I don't know if I would want him for those picks over what we could get for no picks or cheaper (McNabb, Young or Orton) ... But if we want him, we CAN go get him.
    No way in hell would I trade a 1st for kolb. He just doesn't have the credentials to command it.

    As far as the offense we will run- Are you certain it will be a WCO? I have been digging into his history and he has a pretty diverse portfolio including working under Joe Gibbs. I would LOVE to see us run a Gibbs style offense here where we get a bigger C, A bigger G and then run some of those counter plays they used to run.

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1088030
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1088028
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1088021
    I think this is a dead issue unless he convinces them to release him. We don't have the draft picks to trade for what Philly will want to release him.
    I'm not saying we should ... But we definitely have enough to offer for Kolb. Pick No. 12 would quite possibly do the trick, especially if they lock up Vick past next season. Pick No. 12 and our Second-rounder would almost certainly get a deal done.

    Most analysts have us in the market for Kolb and it would seem he would fit in our incoming "system" as we will still be a WCO and he has been in one for a few years.

    Like I said ... I don't know if I would want him for those picks over what we could get for no picks or cheaper (McNabb, Young or Orton) ... But if we want him, we CAN go get him.
    No way in hell would I trade a 1st for kolb. He just doesn't have the credentials to command it.

    As far as the offense we will run- Are you certain it will be a WCO? I have been digging into his history and he has a pretty diverse portfolio including working under Joe Gibbs. I would LOVE to see us run a Gibbs style offense here where we get a bigger C, A bigger G and then run some of those counter plays they used to run.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81dcb2e7/article/musgrave-singletary-added-to-vikings-staff-under-frazier?module=HP_headlines

    He is considered a West Coast guy. He ran some version of the WCO in all his coordinator gigs and has been involved in WC systems for the majority of his other gigs.

    As for Kolb ... I was merely stating that we have what it takes to go get home if we want him. I personally don't like the idea of trading a No. 12 for him, but he is probably as good as whatever QB we could get there and still has plenty of years left.

    As for the counter offense run by Gibbs ... It simply does not look like it would be a winner in this league right now. Simply put ... You HAVE to be able to go pass heavy now to win. That is not to say you can't be a running team, but you have to be able to go t the air often when needed.

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    I have not seen Kolb do anything to make me want to sell our souls to get him. Our draft picks are more needed now than ever and the dork lost us our third. And like what has been stated the Eagles won't part with him.
    I bet you could use a cool one huh Clark...Now you're talkin Eddie...

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    Re: Kolb - Philly or not, I want to start

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1088032
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1088030
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1088028
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1088021
    I think this is a dead issue unless he convinces them to release him. We don't have the draft picks to trade for what Philly will want to release him.
    I'm not saying we should ... But we definitely have enough to offer for Kolb. Pick No. 12 would quite possibly do the trick, especially if they lock up Vick past next season. Pick No. 12 and our Second-rounder would almost certainly get a deal done.

    Most analysts have us in the market for Kolb and it would seem he would fit in our incoming "system" as we will still be a WCO and he has been in one for a few years.

    Like I said ... I don't know if I would want him for those picks over what we could get for no picks or cheaper (McNabb, Young or Orton) ... But if we want him, we CAN go get him.
    No way in hell would I trade a 1st for kolb. He just doesn't have the credentials to command it.

    As far as the offense we will run- Are you certain it will be a WCO? I have been digging into his history and he has a pretty diverse portfolio including working under Joe Gibbs. I would LOVE to see us run a Gibbs style offense here where we get a bigger C, A bigger G and then run some of those counter plays they used to run.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81dcb2e7/article/musgrave-singletary-added-to-vikings-staff-under-frazier?module=HP_headlines

    He is considered a West Coast guy. He ran some version of the WCO in all his coordinator gigs and has been involved in WC systems for the majority of his other gigs.

    As for Kolb ... I was merely stating that we have what it takes to go get home if we want him. I personally don't like the idea of trading a No. 12 for him, but he is probably as good as whatever QB we could get there and still has plenty of years left.

    As for the counter offense run by Gibbs ... It simply does not look like it would be a winner in this league right now. Simply put ... You HAVE to be able to go pass heavy now to win. That is not to say you can't be a running team, but you have to be able to go t the air often when needed.
    All that article said was he had vast WCO experience, but he also served under Gibbs:
    Hoping to improve on the previous season's dismal passing attack, Gibbs added former Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave as his quarterbacks coach. Having coached Redskins quarterback Mark Brunell when they both were in Jacksonville, they easily formed a rapport. Musgrave's input allowed the Redskins add a few new wrinkles to their playbook. For the first time under Gibbs, the Redskins offense utilized the shotgun formation.
    You also can look at Atlanta and i am not sure how much of the WCO they run considering Mularky has roots in Pittsburgh.(And Minnesota if you remember)
    From 1996-2003, Mularkey spent eight seasons on the successful coaching sta. of the Pittsburgh Steelers under Head Coach Bill Cowher and served as the Offensive Coordinator in his final three years. As Offensive Coordinator, Mularkey’s offense in Pittsburgh finished third and fifth, respectively, in the NFL in total offense in his first two years. The Steelers also averaged 173.4 rushing yards per game, which led the League in 2001. Mularkey helped the Steelers register a 13-3 record in 2001 on the way to an AFC Central Division championship and an AFC Championship Game appearance.

    Under Mularkey’s creative tutelage, quarterback Kordell Stewart passed for 3,109 yards en route to be chosen to the AFC Pro Bowl squad. The following season in 2002 Mularkey’s coaching expertise was witnessed again as he helped resurrect quarterback Tommy Maddox’s career. After not playing in the NFL in fi ve years, Maddox threw for 2,836 yards with 20 touchdowns and set a single-season franchise record with a 62.1 completion percentage to earn NFL Comeback Player of the Year honors.

    Mularkey spent his fi rst fi ve years in Pittsburgh as the club’s Tight Ends Coach. He helped mold Mark Bruener into one of the best run-blocking tight ends in the league during his tenure. The solid tight end play from Mularkey’s crew enabled running back Jerome Bettis to eclipse the 1,000-yard rushing plateau for fi ve-straight seasons. The Steelers as a team also were among the top 10 in the league in the rushing department every season and led the NFL in 1997, as well as fi nishing second in 1996.

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