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    To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    In the next month there's likely going to be insane, ridiculous numbers of mock drafts from all over the place that some of us NFL-offseason-management fans are going to want to discuss, regurgitate, revolve, retune, retard, reject and...you get the idea. I thought we should have a thread full of links to Mock Drafts...so we can share some of our favorite sites/picks etc


    So anyway...if you haven't seen Walterfootball, he's around here somewhere on PPO I think?...his current mock looks like a good start for the Vikes to me!

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2010_2.php

    1. Devin McCourty-CB Rutgers
    2. Joe McKnight-RB USC
    3. Dekoda Watson-OLB FSU
    4. D'Anthony Smith-DT LSU

    Hitting some good depth there I think. What do you think about Jahvid Best in the 1 and Cris Cook in the 2? Back to back first round picks at RB worked for TEN...and Best had the best RB time!

    I also like Scott Wright's Draft Countdown most years...He's got us landing Dan Williams at DT in the first and Perrish Cox, CB, in the 2nd. Not Bad!! Fat Chance Williams is still there for us at 30 but that would add some nice punch to our DL rotation/depth!



    http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php


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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    http://www.thefootballexpert.com/bures2010mockdraft_1.html

    Whoa! Nice!! Two guys that make our Defense better now, and a big QB with good production to develop for a couple of years behind BF, TJ, and/or SR!

    1. DT Brian Price UCLA
    2. CB Devin McCourty Rutgers
    3. QB Tony Pike CIN



    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/03/04/mock.draft.1/index.html

    Hmmm, Jared Odrick? Not Pat's size, but room to grow...


    I've been seeing Pouncey, C/OG out of Florida alot too. He could challenge Herrera and Sully, or back both up for now kinda like Hicks used to do. But, really, I think we're going to gamble that the young guys develop and go defense early.
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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    This is the only two rounds I got complete before the Seachickens trade last week. Need to go straighten that mess out, however, based on team needs, what players actually fit those needs, here is how I had the first two rounds going.

    Round 1
    1. St. Louis (1-15) Sam Bradford
    2. Detroit (2-14) Ndamukong Suh
    3. Tampa Bay (3-13) Gerald McCoy
    4. Washington (4-12) Russell Okung
    5. Kansas City (4-12) Brian Bulaga
    6. Seattle (5-11) Jimmy Clausen
    7. Cleveland (5-11) Eric Berry
    8. Oakland (5-11) Trent Williams
    9. Buffalo (6-10) Dan Williams
    10. Jacksonville (7-9) Joe Haden
    11. Denver - from Chicago (7-9) Rolando McClain
    12. Miami (7-9) Terrence Cody
    13. San Francisco (8-8) Taylor Mays
    14. Seattle - from Denver (8-8) C.J. Spiller
    15. New York Giants (8-8) Derrick Morgan
    16. Tennessee (8-8) Jason Pierre-Paul
    17. San Francisco - from Carolina (8-8) Anthony Davis
    18. Pittsburgh (9-7) Mike Iupati
    19. Atlanta (9-7) Everson Griffen
    20. Houston (9-7) Kyle Wilson
    21. Cincinnati (10-6) Jermaine Gresham
    22. New England (10-6) Carlos Dunlap
    23. Green Bay (11-5) Sergio Kindle
    24. Philadelphia (11-5) Sean Weatherspoon
    25. Baltimore (9-7) Earl Thomas
    26. Arizona (10-6) Brandon Graham
    27. Dallas (11-5) Bruce Campbell
    28. San Diego (13-3) Ryan Mathews
    29. New York Jets (9-7) Dez Bryant
    30. Minnesota (12-4) Kareem Jackson
    31. Indianapolis (14-2) Maurkice Pouncey
    32. New Orleans (13-3) Brian Price

    Round 2
    1. St. Louis (1-15) Golden Tate
    2. Detroit (2-14) Charles Brown
    3. Tampa Bay (3-13) Demaryius Thomas
    4. Kansas City (4-12) Brandon Spikes
    5. Washington (4-12) Colt McCoy
    6. Cleveland (5-11) Patrick Robinson
    7. Oakland (5-11) Jared Odrick
    8. Seattle (5-11) Jerry Hughes
    9. Buffalo (6-10) Brandon LaFell
    10. Tampa Bay - from Chicago (7-9) Dominique Franks
    11. Miami (7-9) Ricky Sapp
    12. New England - from Jacksonville (7-9) Daryl Washington
    13. Denver (8-8) Jon Asamoah
    14. New York Giants (8-8) Tyson Alualu
    15. New England - from Tennessee (8-8) Jahvid Best
    16. Carolina (8-8) Cam Thomas
    17. San Francisco (8-8) Devin McCourty
    18. Kansas City - from Atlanta (9-7) Koa Misi
    19. Houston (9-7) Toby Gerhart
    20. Pittsburgh (9-7) Jermaine Cunningham
    21. New England (10-6) Sean Lee
    22. Cincinnati (10-6) Major Wright
    23. Philadelphia (11-5) Corey Wootton
    24. Green Bay (11-5) Jonathan Dwyer
    25. Baltimore (9-7) Lamarr Houston
    26. Arizona (10-6) Austen Lane
    27. Dallas (11-5) Nate Allen
    28. San Diego (13-3) Mike Neal
    29. New York Jets (9-7) Eric Norwood
    30. Minnesota (12-4) Torrell Troup
    31. Indianapolis (14-2) Alex Carrington
    32. New Orleans (13-3) Navorro Bowman*

    Both Franks and Troup seem to be pretty good fits with the Vikes already having Troup in for a visit.

    Read & React: Good route recognition. Reads the body lean of his opponent and has the athleticism to react accordingly. He anticipates the path of the ball and extends to reach around a receiver to break up passes. Reads run quickly and attacks the run on the perimeter.

    Man Coverage: Good bump-and-run corner. Provides a good, physical pop at the line of scrimmage and keeps his hand on the receiver downfield to control. Good use of body to push the receiver outside, using the sideline to help cut off the space in which the quarterback can throw the ball. Allows too much separation on deep routes and has stiffness in his hips when suddenly changing direction. Face guards at this level, but won't be allowed to do so in the NFL.

    Zone Coverage: Good awareness for zone coverage. A bit high in his backpedal and has some stiffness in his hips, but trusts his eyes and locates the football quickly. Savvy, physical player. Likes to use his hands to re-route the receiver. Has quick feet and a good burst out of his breaks to close.

    Closing/Recovery: Lacks an elite second gear to recover if beaten initially, but has an impressive burst downhill to close on the ball. Plants his foot and drives, showing good body control to adjust around the receiver and get his hands on the ball. Times his leaps well and has an explosive vertical. Good hand-eye coordination and ball skills to extend and pluck outside of his frame.

    Run Support: Aggressive to the line of scrimmage to help against the run, protecting the edge and forcing the back to cut back inside. Fights through the receiver's block and has the agility to elude bigger blockers in tight quarters. Good vision and effort to cut through the trash in pursuit. Takes good angles in pursuit.

    Tackling: Strong wrap-up tackler. Brings his hips through and can be a big hitter on the boundary. Willing to face up bigger ballcarriers. Will lead with his shoulder when he sees the receiver in a vulnerable position. Good strength for the drag-down tackle when trailing the receiver across the middle.

    Intangibles: Highly competitive player that puts in time in the film room. Asked for his grade from the NFL Advisory Committee, but didn't read it upon receiving it. Jackson gave the unopened envelope to Nick Saban to hold until after the BCS National Championship game so that the contents wouldn't be a distraction.
    CBS Player Profile - Jackson


    Analysis
    Pass rush: Bull rusher who often pushes his man (or a double-team when fresh) to collapse the pocket using leverage. Able to rip off blocks, punch and swim over the top, or even get under the arm of guards to pressure the quarterback if he hangs onto the ball too long. Limited burst; will provide some heat but not many sacks. Sits on many obvious passing situations.

    Run defense: Stands his ground against single and double blocks using his girth and strength, although he lacks the quickness to split the double. Can be violent with hands to free himself. Able to sift through trash inside to get to ballcarrier. Moves laterally while engaged to stay in the play. Needs improvement avoiding and recovering from cut blocks.

    Explosion: Quick and powerful off the snap, penetrating easily against man-up blocks. Good balance after initial contact, keeping pads low and moving forward. Loses steam coming off the ball throughout the game.

    Strength: Very strong player; prime nose tackle candidate. Uses a low center of gravity and thick upper body to gain leverage. Able to stack his man and disengage to chase the quarterback or wrap up ballcarriers.

    Tackling: Has length and upper-body strength to bring down most any player in his immediate area. Willing to chase down players but lacks burst to track them down from behind without help or consistently make tackles outside the box. Doesn't change directions easily, and can be eluded in space. Must keep his feet moving instead of relying on his strength to make arm tackles.

    Intangibles: Hard-working, unselfish leader with a quiet sensibility. Consistently gives good effort inside whether rushing the passer or stopping the run. No major character issues. Worked off 30 pound of weight during his career to gain stamina, although he still carries extra around his midsection.
    CBS Player Profile - Troup
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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    Looks pretty good to me. SEA's move for Whitehurst was a lil surprising...and over 5 mill/year? Sounds kinda desperate! What they really need is some OL help for whoever the QB is.

    Sure, going BPA, puts Suh in the 2nd slot, but I think there is a real good chance the Lions go OT instead. Its been a weakness for years, and now that they have someone to invest in at QB, I think the need for OT out weighs the value at DT...which of course pushes the whole first round around a bit!

    I just don't get all the pundits putting Dez Bryant to DEN! They already have a primadonna pain in the A at WR, why would they want another one? I'm thinking they go Defense...McClain is a good fit, but if the DTs start sliding down due to a run on OTs, they could still use youth on the DL too, and the depth of choices at LB will be much better in the 2nd than DT will be!

    Man! Are there a bunch of CBs going in the first 2 rounds! Good for us, tough part is figuring how they stack up with so many similar values flying around!

    Cheers!!
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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    mountainviking wrote:
    Looks pretty good to me. SEA's move for Whitehurst was a lil surprising...and over 5 mill/year? Sounds kinda desperate! What they really need is some OL help for whoever the QB is.

    Sure, going BPA, puts Suh in the 2nd slot, but I think there is a real good chance the Lions go OT instead. Its been a weakness for years, and now that they have someone to invest in at QB, I think the need for OT out weighs the value at DT...which of course pushes the whole first round around a bit!

    I just don't get all the pundits putting Dez Bryant to DEN! They already have a primadonna pain in the A at WR, why would they want another one? I'm thinking they go Defense...McClain is a good fit, but if the DTs start sliding down due to a run on OTs, they could still use youth on the DL too, and the depth of choices at LB will be much better in the 2nd than DT will be!

    Man! Are there a bunch of CBs going in the first 2 rounds! Good for us, tough part is figuring how they stack up with so many similar values flying around!

    Cheers!!
    Take a look at this site. Lots of good stuff, in fact, I started to use thier team needs instead of the one I developed. I can't seem to keep mine updated as well as they do thiers.

    Additionally, I like the layout they have for thier draft prospect profiles.

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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    I wouldn't mind McCourty

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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    Here's my first whirl at a 2010 mock...

    Round 1
    1. St. Louis Sam Bradford-the future starts now
    2. Detroit Russell Okung –give the major investment some protection
    3. Tampa Bay Gerald McCoy-just cuz he’s more like Sapp
    4. Washington Trent Williams-need
    5. Kansas City Brian Bulaga-need
    6. Seattle Anthony Davis-need
    7. Cleveland Eric Berry-they already have a ton of meet up front
    8. Oakland Ndamukong Suh-perfect need
    9. Buffalo Dan Williams-need to swap to 3-4
    10. Jacksonville Joe Haden-still allowing too many TDs and BPA
    11. Denver from Chi Rolando McClain-replace Andra Davis 100+ tackles
    12. Miami Dez Bryant-the big guy likes the Keyshawn comparison?
    13. San Francisco C.J. Spiller –lightning to Gore’s thunder and they don’t want SEA to get him!
    14. Seattle from Den Taylor Mays-Carroll goes back to the well he likes best.
    15. New York Giants Sean Weatherspoon -Too early for Brandon Spikes?
    16. Tennessee Derrick Morgan-BPA fits need
    17. San Fran fromCar Kyle Wilson –OT fills the biggest need, but Kyle Wilson fills 2.
    18. Pittsburgh Devin McCourty-need…the steelers don’t draft OL in rd1
    19. Atlanta Jason Pierre-Paul
    20. Houston Ryan Mathews -hoping CB but settle for RB they need
    21. Cincinnati Jermaine Gresham-Bengals like to run and his blocking will help
    22. New England Aaron Hernandez –if you want to score w Peyton, you need wpns
    23. Green Bay Charles Brown-you can’t let your QB take a beating all the time
    24. Philadelphia Mike Iupati-a big mean upgrade to Philly’s running game
    25. Baltimore Carlos Dunlap-big DL depth
    26. Arizona Brandon Spikes – fits the need…Clausen? Earl Thomas?
    27. Dallas Bruce Campbell-forget the Alamo, Remember Ray Edwards!
    28. San Diego Terrence Cody-It takes a big boy to fill Jamal’s spot
    29. New York Jets Golden Tate-pretty set team could use a reliable target
    30. Minnesota Earl Thomas-buh buy Madieu’s big contract?
    31. Indianapolis Maurkice Pouncey-Peyton gets another 1st round helper
    32. New Orleans Brandon Graham-need youth to pass rush


    Just misses:

    Everson Griffen
    Sergio Kindle
    Brian Price
    Jimmy Clausen
    Kareem Jackson
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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    What you guys think about this one?

    http://connorh1.blogspot.com/

    Mock Draft 1
    1. St. Louis Rams - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
    2. Detroit Lions - Russel Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
    3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
    4. Washington Redskins Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
    5. Kansas City Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
    6. Seattle Seahawks C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
    7. Cleveland Joe Haden, CB, Florida
    8. Oakland Raiders Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
    9. Buffalo Bills Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
    10. Jacksonville Jaguars Earl Thomas, S/CB, Texas
    11. Denver Broncos Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
    12. Miami Dolphins Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
    13. San Francisco 49ers Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa
    14. Seattle Seahawks Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
    15. New York Giants Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri
    16. Tennessee Titans Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
    17. San Francisco 49ers Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
    18. Pittsburgh Steelers Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
    19. Atlanta Falcons Brandon Graham, OLB/DE, Michigan
    20. Houston Texans Brian Price, DT, UCLA
    21. Cincinnati Bengals Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
    22. New England Patriots Jared Odrick, DT/DE, Penn State
    23. Green Bay Packers Charles Brown, OT, USC
    24. Philadelphia Eagles Everson Griffen, DE, USC
    25. Baltimore Ravens Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
    26. Arizona Cardinals Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
    27. Dallas Cowboys Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
    28. San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
    29. New York Jets Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
    30. Minnesota Vikings Taylor Mays, S, USC
    31. Indianapolis Colts Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
    32. New Orleans Saints Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

    He has descriptions of some of the picks on the link.
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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    Mr Anderson wrote:
    I wouldn't mind McCourty
    Yea, I struggled with him a bit over Kareem.

    Rationale for taking Kareem was that they seemed to let Griff get a bit more physical with the WR's last year.

    If, BIG IF, the Vikes want to get a bit more physical with thier CB's Kareem seemed to be the better fit over McCourty as he seems to be a good fit for just the Zone/Cover 2 scheme wereas Kareem can do both.
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    Re:To Kill a MOCKing Bird-The PPO Mock Draft Database

    mountainviking wrote:
    Here's my first whirl at a 2010 mock...

    Round 1
    1. St. Louis Sam Bradford-the future starts now
    2. Detroit Russell Okung –give the major investment some protection
    3. Tampa Bay Gerald McCoy-just cuz he’s more like Sapp
    4. Washington Trent Williams-need
    5. Kansas City Brian Bulaga-need
    6. Seattle Anthony Davis-need
    7. Cleveland Eric Berry-they already have a ton of meet up front
    8. Oakland Ndamukong Suh-perfect need
    9. Buffalo Dan Williams-need to swap to 3-4
    10. Jacksonville Joe Haden-still allowing too many TDs and BPA
    11. Denver from Chi Rolando McClain-replace Andra Davis 100+ tackles
    12. Miami Dez Bryant-the big guy likes the Keyshawn comparison?
    13. San Francisco C.J. Spiller –lightning to Gore’s thunder and they don’t want SEA to get him!
    14. Seattle from Den Taylor Mays-Carroll goes back to the well he likes best.
    15. New York Giants Sean Weatherspoon -Too early for Brandon Spikes?
    16. Tennessee Derrick Morgan-BPA fits need
    17. San Fran fromCar Kyle Wilson –OT fills the biggest need, but Kyle Wilson fills 2.
    18. Pittsburgh Devin McCourty-need…the steelers don’t draft OL in rd1
    19. Atlanta Jason Pierre-Paul
    20. Houston Ryan Mathews -hoping CB but settle for RB they need
    21. Cincinnati Jermaine Gresham-Bengals like to run and his blocking will help
    22. New England Aaron Hernandez –if you want to score w Peyton, you need wpns
    23. Green Bay Charles Brown-you can’t let your QB take a beating all the time
    24. Philadelphia Mike Iupati-a big mean upgrade to Philly’s running game
    25. Baltimore Carlos Dunlap-big DL depth
    26. Arizona Brandon Spikes – fits the need…Clausen? Earl Thomas?
    27. Dallas Bruce Campbell-forget the Alamo, Remember Ray Edwards!
    28. San Diego Terrence Cody-It takes a big boy to fill Jamal’s spot
    29. New York Jets Golden Tate-pretty set team could use a reliable target
    30. Minnesota Earl Thomas-buh buy Madieu’s big contract?
    31. Indianapolis Maurkice Pouncey-Peyton gets another 1st round helper
    32. New Orleans Brandon Graham-need youth to pass rush


    Just misses:

    Everson Griffen
    Sergio Kindle
    Brian Price
    Jimmy Clausen
    Kareem Jackson
    Now we are getting someplace.

    Lions.
    I had a PUKER fan on this site try to convince me the Lions didn't need OT help. Don't be suprised if my final mock has a OT there for them with the first pick.

    Seattle.
    S seems to be were they are now going after landing thier QB.

    Steelers.
    The Vikes didn't draft WR's in the first round either. By the way, they added a QB, 3 WR's, 1 OL, 2 DL, 3 LB'rs, a SS and a FS to thier roster in FA. My guess, they go OL with thier first round pick because of the need and the talent there to choose from so that they can keep sex boy safe.

    Houston.
    Ryan Matthews that high huh. Interesting. I thought they would look to replace Dunta there.

    Jets.
    I toyed with Tate there as well. Still might change it to him in my final.

    Vikes.
    S over a CB? We already have 2 youngsters there although the new DB coach could be an indicator they are going with a S over a CB. I'm gonna stick with a CB here instead of a S.

    If they are gonna go S, my guess is they will look at a Kendrick Lewis or Robert Vaughn in the 6th or 7th as both seem to be a fit at either FS or CB. They seem to like DB's who can play both positions.

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