John Parker Wilson?

What is everyone's thoughts on the guy? He has every major Alabama passing record, with 7,894 passing yards and 46 touchdowns.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=169602

Granted we already have three quarterbacks on the roster, but this kid really shined at his pro day and his draft stock has risen as of late. It wouldn't hurt to take a look at him during the fifth round considering his collegiate productivity and upside (his numbers dropped from 2007 but still had a decent year). Good size and arm strength, plus he doesn't seem to be on anyone else's radar. Could he be the steal of the draft?

Im kinda high on this kid

If we do take a look at a QB I wanna look at Pat White

I think Wilson could be a more pure passer.. but I love what Pat White does

Would hurt to take a look somewhere in the draft for a QB

Yeah, Pat White would be an awesome acquisition too, IMO. The kid would definitely be versatile in that he could possibly play quarterback, receiver or special teams. I like Wilson for his pocket passing potential, but I think Pat White has that Michael Vick-esque playmaking threat to him (although T-Jack is good in that area as well).

I like steven Mcgee out of texas A&M better than wilson.. imo, he sucks jiggly butt... if Alabama had a better QB they would have won the national championship.. he couldnt get it to any of their receivers and having the alabama career passing record isnt' saying much...

yeah, he has better stats than joe namath and kenny stabler, but that was in a different era when they played less games and didn't throw it the way modern teams throw it now...

IMO, he's just not very good... but that's from my standpoint..

pat white isnt bad... but mostly as a wildcat QB... i just don't see him being a starter here and i hate lefty Qb's...

i'd rather have vick than him... lol

white isnt' gonna be able to run past ppl like that in the NFL.. just ask reggie bush...

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I like steven Mcgee out of texas A&M better than wilson.. imo, he sucks jiggly butt... if Alabama had a better QB they would have won the national championship.. he couldnt get it to any of their receivers and having the alabama career passing record isnt' saying much...

yeah, he has better stats than joe namath and kenny stabler, but that was in a different era when they played less games and didn't throw it the way modern teams throw it now...

IMO, he's just not very good... but that's from my standpoint..

pat white isnt bad... but mostly as a wildcat QB... i just don't see him being a starter here and i hate lefty Qb's...

i'd rather have vick than him... lol

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White is, flat out, a good football player.
I think he'll be fine as a quarterback, or whatever they make of him.
He won games for West Virginia, something a guy like Josh Freeman never did for KSU.

John Parker Wilson was called John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson for a reason.

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I like steven Mcgee out of texas A&M better than wilson.. imo, he sucks jiggly butt... if Alabama had a better QB they would have won the national championship.. he couldnt get it to any of their receivers and having the alabama career passing record isnt' saying much...

yeah, he has better stats than joe namath and kenny stabler, but that was in a different era when they played less games and didn't throw it the way modern teams throw it now...

IMO, he's just not very good... but that's from my standpoint..

pat white isnt bad... but mostly as a wildcat QB... i just don't see him being a starter here and i hate lefty Qb's...

i'd rather have vick than him... lol

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White is, flat out, a good football player.
I think he'll be fine as a quarterback, or whatever they make of him.
He won games for West Virginia, something a guy like Josh Freeman never did for KSU.

John Parker Wilson was called John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson for a reason.

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different type of offense, different type of talent around them... u can't even begin to compare those two... esp given the offenses they played in... if ppl thought like u, then they'd have pat white going in the first round...

Freeman didnt' have the ppl around him to really gauge his development, but besides that he has more attributes that translate better to the NFL unlike White when comparing them...

that's why some guys are hella good in college but dont do shit in the pro's and vice versa...

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I like steven Mcgee out of texas A&M better than wilson.. imo, he sucks jiggly butt... if Alabama had a better QB they would have won the national championship.. he couldnt get it to any of their receivers and having the alabama career passing record isnt' saying much...

yeah, he has better stats than joe namath and kenny stabler, but that was in a different era when they played less games and didn't throw it the way modern teams throw it now...

IMO, he's just not very good... but that's from my standpoint..

pat white isnt bad... but mostly as a wildcat QB... i just don't see him being a starter here and i hate lefty Qb's...

i'd rather have vick than him... lol

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White is, flat out, a good football player.
I think he'll be fine as a quarterback, or whatever they make of him.
He won games for West Virginia, something a guy like Josh Freeman never did for KSU.

John Parker Wilson was called John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson for a reason.

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different type of offense, different type of talent around them... u can't even begin to compare those two... esp given the offenses they played in... if ppl thought like u, then they'd have pat white going in the first round...

Freeman didnt' have the ppl around him to really gauge his development, but besides that he has more attributes that translate better to the NFL unlike White when comparing them...

that's why some guys are hella good in college but dont do pooh in the pro's and vice versa...

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
There's a reason why us KSU fans weren't huge on Freeman...and it's because he's diet-JaMarcus Russell-lite.
He pads his stats against teams like Iowa State, but turns the ball over constantly against the top Big 12 teams.
He's simply not that good.

I think you're underrating the actual talent that was on KSU, as well.
He had Jordy Nelson to throw to until this last season, and there were several decent players across the board.
If he was as good a quarterback as people outside the Big 12 think, the team would have performed on a level with Kansas, instead of sucking it up in the Big 12 North, which is far weaker than the south.

Hell, Chad May won far more games with far less talent, and against better squads than Freeman did.

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I like steven Mcgee out of texas A&M better than wilson.. imo, he sucks jiggly butt... if Alabama had a better QB they would have won the national championship.. he couldnt get it to any of their receivers and having the alabama career passing record isnt' saying much...

yeah, he has better stats than joe namath and kenny stabler, but that was in a different era when they played less games and didn't throw it the way modern teams throw it now...

IMO, he's just not very good... but that's from my standpoint..

pat white isnt bad... but mostly as a wildcat QB... i just don't see him being a starter here and i hate lefty Qb's...

i'd rather have vick than him... lol

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White is, flat out, a good football player.
I think he'll be fine as a quarterback, or whatever they make of him.
He won games for West Virginia, something a guy like Josh Freeman never did for KSU.

John Parker Wilson was called John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson for a reason.

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different type of offense, different type of talent around them... u can't even begin to compare those two... esp given the offenses they played in... if ppl thought like u, then they'd have pat white going in the first round...

Freeman didnt' have the ppl around him to really gauge his development, but besides that he has more attributes that translate better to the NFL unlike White when comparing them...

that's why some guys are hella good in college but dont do pooh in the pro's and vice versa...

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
There's a reason why us KSU fans weren't huge on Freeman...and it's because he's diet-JaMarcus Russell-lite.
He pads his stats against teams like Iowa State, but turns the ball over constantly against the top Big 12 teams.
He's simply not that good.

I think you're underrating the actual talent that was on KSU, as well.
He had Jordy Nelson to throw to until this last season, and there were several decent players across the board.
If he was as good a quarterback as people outside the Big 12 think, the team would have performed on a level with Kansas, instead of sucking it up in the Big 12 North, which is far weaker than the south.

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oh yeah, i seem to recall Jordy nelson being a juggernaut...
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with that said, KSU fans can be biased and not see the actual talent that's there or is masked by their bias...

Just ask ppl from BC about Matt Ryan, and i'm sure they'd of said the same thing or something quite similar...

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I like steven Mcgee out of texas A&M better than wilson.. imo, he sucks jiggly butt... if Alabama had a better QB they would have won the national championship.. he couldnt get it to any of their receivers and having the alabama career passing record isnt' saying much...

yeah, he has better stats than joe namath and kenny stabler, but that was in a different era when they played less games and didn't throw it the way modern teams throw it now...

IMO, he's just not very good... but that's from my standpoint..

pat white isnt bad... but mostly as a wildcat QB... i just don't see him being a starter here and i hate lefty Qb's...

i'd rather have vick than him... lol

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White is, flat out, a good football player.
I think he'll be fine as a quarterback, or whatever they make of him.
He won games for West Virginia, something a guy like Josh Freeman never did for KSU.

John Parker Wilson was called John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson for a reason.

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different type of offense, different type of talent around them... u can't even begin to compare those two... esp given the offenses they played in... if ppl thought like u, then they'd have pat white going in the first round...

Freeman didnt' have the ppl around him to really gauge his development, but besides that he has more attributes that translate better to the NFL unlike White when comparing them...

that's why some guys are hella good in college but dont do pooh in the pro's and vice versa...

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
There's a reason why us KSU fans weren't huge on Freeman...and it's because he's diet-JaMarcus Russell-lite.
He pads his stats against teams like Iowa State, but turns the ball over constantly against the top Big 12 teams.
He's simply not that good.

I think you're underrating the actual talent that was on KSU, as well.
He had Jordy Nelson to throw to until this last season, and there were several decent players across the board.
If he was as good a quarterback as people outside the Big 12 think, the team would have performed on a level with Kansas, instead of sucking it up in the Big 12 North, which is far weaker than the south.

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oh yeah, i seem to recall Jordy nelson being a juggernaut...
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with that said, KSU fans can be biased and not see the actual talent that's there or is masked by their bias...

Just ask ppl from BC about Matt Ryan, and i'm sure they'd of said the same thing or something quite similar...

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haha, are you serious man?
Jordy was a manimal out there, and smoked the shoes off of a certain first round cornerback from Kansas.

My point being, while Freeman has all the measurables, he lacks what makes great quarterbacks great.
The ability to shoulder their team and win games.
Tebow has it.
Montana had it.
Elway had it.
Freeman most certainly does not.