Thread: How Would Allen change FA and the draft?

"Marrdro" wrote:

"Big" wrote:

I doubt we will trade BMac this year. We just solidified the defense by bringing in Jared. I highly doubt we will undo that by dismantling the left side of the O-Line which has been successful thus far. Sure, McKinnie may get suspended for 4 games but we can't deny his experience (and bulk) and chemistry towards the end of the season. This is probably Birk's last year too, so we don't want to go through a "Rebuilding the O-Line" phase this season.

I see us asking Hicks (or someone else already on the roster) to step in for BMac during the suspension and draft a Center in the 2nd round to replace Birk next year. Then take BPA in all the latter rounds.

Hicks won't make the roster this year.
Just my opinion.

Red are the starters when Mac (PINK) does his time.

78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
62 Ryan Cook C 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
46 Cullen Loeffler C 27 6-5 241 4 Texas
64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
[s]79 Artis Hicks G 29 6-4 335 6 Memphis[/s]
76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
72 Marcus Johnson OL 26 6-6 321 3 Mississippi
75 Chase Johnson OT 24 6-8 330 R Wyoming
74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
63 Brian Daniels OG 23 6-4 303 R Colorado

What about your boy Mozes?
Practice squad?

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"Big" wrote:

I doubt we will trade BMac this year. We just solidified the defense by bringing in Jared. I highly doubt we will undo that by dismantling the left side of the O-Line which has been successful thus far. Sure, McKinnie may get suspended for 4 games but we can't deny his experience (and bulk) and chemistry towards the end of the season. This is probably Birk's last year too, so we don't want to go through a "Rebuilding the O-Line" phase this season.

I see us asking Hicks (or someone else already on the roster) to step in for BMac during the suspension and draft a Center in the 2nd round to replace Birk next year. Then take BPA in all the latter rounds.

Hicks won't make the roster this year.
Just my opinion.

Red are the starters when Mac (PINK) does his time.

78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
62 Ryan Cook C 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
46 Cullen Loeffler C 27 6-5 241 4 Texas
64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
[s]79 Artis Hicks G 29 6-4 335 6 Memphis[/s]
76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
72 Marcus Johnson OL 26 6-6 321 3 Mississippi
75 Chase Johnson OT 24 6-8 330 R Wyoming
74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
63 Brian Daniels OG 23 6-4 303 R Colorado

What about your boy Mozes?
Practice squad?

Sorry, he takes Hicks roster spot.
Backs up C and G.

"Marrdro" wrote:

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"Big" wrote:

I doubt we will trade BMac this year. We just solidified the defense by bringing in Jared. I highly doubt we will undo that by dismantling the left side of the O-Line which has been successful thus far. Sure, McKinnie may get suspended for 4 games but we can't deny his experience (and bulk) and chemistry towards the end of the season. This is probably Birk's last year too, so we don't want to go through a "Rebuilding the O-Line" phase this season.

I see us asking Hicks (or someone else already on the roster) to step in for BMac during the suspension and draft a Center in the 2nd round to replace Birk next year. Then take BPA in all the latter rounds.

Hicks won't make the roster this year.
Just my opinion.

Red are the starters when Mac (PINK) does his time.

78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
62 Ryan Cook C 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
46 Cullen Loeffler C 27 6-5 241 4 Texas
64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
[s]79 Artis Hicks G 29 6-4 335 6 Memphis[/s]
76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
72 Marcus Johnson OL 26 6-6 321 3 Mississippi
75 Chase Johnson OT 24 6-8 330 R Wyoming
74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
63 Brian Daniels OG 23 6-4 303 R Colorado

What about your boy Mozes?
Practice squad?

Sorry, he takes Hicks roster spot.
Backs up C and G.

Have you ever even seen Mozes play or is all this love for him coming from a couple of articles you read?

"singersp" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"Big" wrote:

I doubt we will trade BMac this year. We just solidified the defense by bringing in Jared. I highly doubt we will undo that by dismantling the left side of the O-Line which has been successful thus far. Sure, McKinnie may get suspended for 4 games but we can't deny his experience (and bulk) and chemistry towards the end of the season. This is probably Birk's last year too, so we don't want to go through a "Rebuilding the O-Line" phase this season.

I see us asking Hicks (or someone else already on the roster) to step in for BMac during the suspension and draft a Center in the 2nd round to replace Birk next year. Then take BPA in all the latter rounds.

Hicks won't make the roster this year.
Just my opinion.

Red are the starters when Mac (PINK) does his time.

78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
62 Ryan Cook C 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
46 Cullen Loeffler C 27 6-5 241 4 Texas
64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
[s]79 Artis Hicks G 29 6-4 335 6 Memphis[/s]
76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
72 Marcus Johnson OL 26 6-6 321 3 Mississippi
75 Chase Johnson OT 24 6-8 330 R Wyoming
74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
63 Brian Daniels OG 23 6-4 303 R Colorado

What about your boy Mozes?
Practice squad?

Sorry, he takes Hicks roster spot.
Backs up C and G.

Have you ever even seen Mozes play or is all this love for him coming from a couple of articles you read?

You know I don't watch college football, so no, I've never seen him play and it is a bit more study than a few articles my friend.
You know how anal I am about reading up on every player that has his name involved with the Vikings roster.

Have you seen any of the C play in this years draft to a point that you think they can beat out Mr. Mozes?

"Marrdro" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

[quote author=Big C link=topic=44175.msg766273#msg766273 date=1208932229]
I doubt we will trade BMac this year. We just solidified the defense by bringing in Jared. I highly doubt we will undo that by dismantling the left side of the O-Line which has been successful thus far. Sure, McKinnie may get suspended for 4 games but we can't deny his experience (and bulk) and chemistry towards the end of the season. This is probably Birk's last year too, so we don't want to go through a "Rebuilding the O-Line" phase this season.

I see us asking Hicks (or someone else already on the roster) to step in for BMac during the suspension and draft a Center in the 2nd round to replace Birk next year. Then take BPA in all the latter rounds.

Hicks won't make the roster this year.
Just my opinion.

Red are the starters when Mac (PINK) does his time.

78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
62 Ryan Cook C 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
46 Cullen Loeffler C 27 6-5 241 4 Texas
64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
[s]79 Artis Hicks G 29 6-4 335 6 Memphis[/s]
76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
72 Marcus Johnson OL 26 6-6 321 3 Mississippi
75 Chase Johnson OT 24 6-8 330 R Wyoming
74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
63 Brian Daniels OG 23 6-4 303 R Colorado

What about your boy Mozes?
Practice squad?

Sorry, he takes Hicks roster spot.
Backs up C and G.

Have you ever even seen Mozes play or is all this love for him coming from a couple of articles you read?

You know I don't watch college football, so no, I've never seen him play and it is a bit more study than a few articles my friend.
You know how anal I am about reading up on every player that has his name involved with the Vikings roster.

Have you seen any of the C play in this years draft to a point that you think they can beat out Mr. Mozes?
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Nope & that's exactly why I don't hype them up.


They are unproven once they hit the pros. I don't like to hang my hat on everything printed in articles. Aren't you the one that stated those beat writers are yutzes anyways? Or is it only when they write something you don't agree with?

Let them show me something on the field & I'll believe in them. Then I can better judge them.

"singersp" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

[quote author=Marrdro link=topic=44175.msg766708#msg766708 date=1208968667]
[quote author=Big C link=topic=44175.msg766273#msg766273 date=1208932229]
I doubt we will trade BMac this year. We just solidified the defense by bringing in Jared. I highly doubt we will undo that by dismantling the left side of the O-Line which has been successful thus far. Sure, McKinnie may get suspended for 4 games but we can't deny his experience (and bulk) and chemistry towards the end of the season. This is probably Birk's last year too, so we don't want to go through a "Rebuilding the O-Line" phase this season.

I see us asking Hicks (or someone else already on the roster) to step in for BMac during the suspension and draft a Center in the 2nd round to replace Birk next year. Then take BPA in all the latter rounds.

Hicks won't make the roster this year.
Just my opinion.

Red are the starters when Mac (PINK) does his time.

78 Matt Birk C 31 6-4 308 10 Harvard
62 Ryan Cook C 24 6-6 328 2 New Mexico
46 Cullen Loeffler C 27 6-5 241 4 Texas
64 Anthony Herrera G 27 6-2 315 4 Tennessee
[s]79 Artis Hicks G 29 6-4 335 6 Memphis[/s]
76 Steve Hutchinson G 30 6-5 313 7 Michigan
72 Marcus Johnson OL 26 6-6 321 3 Mississippi
75 Chase Johnson OT 24 6-8 330 R Wyoming
74 Bryant McKinnie OT 28 6-8 335 6 Miami (FL)
63 Brian Daniels OG 23 6-4 303 R Colorado

What about your boy Mozes?
Practice squad?

Sorry, he takes Hicks roster spot.
Backs up C and G.

Have you ever even seen Mozes play or is all this love for him coming from a couple of articles you read?

You know I don't watch college football, so no, I've never seen him play and it is a bit more study than a few articles my friend.
You know how anal I am about reading up on every player that has his name involved with the Vikings roster.

Have you seen any of the C play in this years draft to a point that you think they can beat out Mr. Mozes?
[/quote]

Nope & that's exactly why I don't hype them up.


They are unproven once they hit the pros. I don't like to hang my hat on everything printed in articles. Aren't you the one that stated those beat writers are yutzes anyways? Or is it only when they write something you don't agree with?

Let them show me something on the field & I'll believe in them. Then I can better judge them.
[/quote]
I am "hyping" because they are on the roster and have had the luxury of getting coached by NFL coaces for a year.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Go back and check.
My contention (Hype) has always been centered on the fact that I don't think any rookie coming in this year would be better than these two cats for that very reason.
Not what a article says or what they did in college.
;D