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    His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    Da foist pick is one we all know. After dat, I'm just wonderin' who dese udda mugs are....
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    17. Minnesota Ernie Sims, LB Florida St.

    48. Minnesota Kellen Clemens, QB Oregon
    Strengths: Has adequate bulk and is well-built. Has trimmed down and has noticeably improved his speed and quickness. Gets set quickly. Is able to scramble and seems most comfortable on the run. Has a strong arm. Gets good RPM's on the deep out route. Can fit the ball into tight spots and can make all the throws in the NFL. Has good vision and some elusiveness as a runner. Is quicker than fast. He throws well on the run. He has adequate mechanics. A quick and high release. Will follow through. Does a good job of getting his shoulder's square when throwing on the run. Has just decent arm strength but gets rid of the ball quickly and has good accuracy in the short-to-intermediate zones. Shows touch and timing underneath. He's a high-energy QB and a vocal leader. Plays the game hard and has continued to improve. Is competitive and tough.

    Weaknesses: Durability is a minor concern after season-ending ankle injury in 2005. Has decent size but lacks ideal height. Is impatient as a pocket passer. Seems to have some trouble finding passing windows. Is inconsistent on the deep ball. Does not show great touch or timing on vertical routes. Needs to get more air under his deep throws. Is an inconsistent performer. Needs to learn to step up in the pocket. Good leader and hard-worker but can be a bit too excitable at times. Poise and patience should come with maturity.

    Overall: Clemens played sparingly as a freshman in 2002 but he has been a fulltime starter since his sophomore season in 2003. As a junior in 2004, Clemens completed 59.9-percent of his attempts for 2,548 yards with 22 TDs and 10 INTs. He also rushed for 190 yards and four TDs. Clemens was having his best season as a senior in 2005 before suffering a season-ending ankle injury versus Washington. In eight games prior to the injury, Clemens completed 64-percent of his attempts for 2,406 yards with 19 TDs and four INTs. He also rushed for 228 yards on 69 carries. Clemens has flown under the radar for much of his collegiate career because of his team's struggles and a system that did not fit his skills. However, prior to his injury, Clemens blossomed in his first season (2005) under new coordinator Gary Crowton. Clemens slimmed down and showed improved quickness and mobility. He has a strong arm and can make all the throws. He also is intelligent and hard working. However, Clemens still has a lot of room to improve in terms of his consistency, patience and accuracy as a pocket passer. He will need lots of polishing at the NFL level and there is no guarantee that he will ever improve enough in those areas to compete for a starting job. However, he shows enough upside because of his physical tools, competitiveness and work ethic to take a chance on in the third-to-fourth round range of the 2006 draft.

    So, why does know-it-all Mel have us takin' dis bum in the 2nd? Ahhhh, he's fulla prunes....

    51. Minnesota (from MIA) Chris Chester, OL Oklahoma
    83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College
    95. Minnesota (from SEA) Le Kevin Smith, DT Nebraska
    115. Minnesota Miles Austin, WR Monmouth
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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    not so sure about the o-line that early, or the DT at that point

    Thanks to PPE for the awesome Sig.

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    I like it....ive never heard of Kellen Clemens though...is he any good? any one here know?

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    Kellen Clemens? Ahead of Whitehurst and Croyle and Jacobs? I don't think so.

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 round

    i bet he's wrong on every pick.
    I don t buy Wisconsin cheese.

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 round

    Here's da whole 4 round projection.
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    First-Round Projections
    1. Houston Reggie Bush, RB USC
    2. New Orleans Mario Williams, DE NC State
    3. Tennessee Matt Leinart, QB USC
    4. N.Y. Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T Virginia
    5. Green Bay A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio St.
    6. San Francisco Vernon Davis, TE Maryland
    7. Oakland Vince Young, QB Texas
    8. Buffalo Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida St.
    9. Detroit Michael Huff, DB Texas
    10. Arizona Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt
    11. St. Louis Chad Greenway, LB Iowa
    12. Cleveland Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB Florida St.
    13. Baltimore Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon
    14. Philadelphia Winston Justice, T USC
    15. Denver (from ATL) Chad Jackson, WR Florida
    16. Miami Donte Whitner, S Ohio St.
    17. Minnesota Ernie Sims, LB Florida St.
    18. Dallas Jason Allen, S/CB Tennessee
    19. San Diego Johnathan Joseph, CB South Carolina
    20. Kansas City Tye Hill, CB Clemson
    21. New England Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio St.
    22. Denver (from WSH) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis
    23. Tampa Bay Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida St.
    24. Cincinnati Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech
    25. N.Y. Giants Kelly Jennings, CB Miami
    26. Chicago Richard Marshall CB Fresno St.
    27. Carolina LenDale White, RB USC
    28. Jacksonville Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA
    29. N.Y. Jets (from DEN) Manny Lawson, DE/OLB NC State
    30. Indianapolis Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota
    31. Seattle Ashton Youboty, CB Ohio St.
    32. Pittsburgh Sinorice Moss, WR Miami

    Second-Round Projections
    33. Houston Eric Winston, T Miami
    34. New Orleans Nick Mangold, C Ohio St.
    35. N.Y. Jets Joseph Addai, RB LSU
    36. Green Bay Tamba Hali, DE Penn St.
    37. San Francisco Bobby Carpenter, LB Ohio St.
    38. Oakland Gabe Watson, DT Michigan
    39. Tennessee D'Qwell Jackson, LB Maryland
    40. Detroit Davin Joseph, G Oklahoma
    41. Arizona Leonard Pope, TE Georgia
    42. Buffalo Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui, G USC
    43. Cleveland Abdul Hodge, LB Iowa
    44. Baltimore Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama
    45. Philadelphia DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama
    46. St. Louis Orien Harris, DT Miami
    47. Atlanta Cedric Griffin, CB Texas
    48. Minnesota Kellen Clemens, QB Oregon
    49. Dallas Marcus McNeill, T Auburn
    50. San Diego Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon
    51. Minnesota (from MIA) Chris Chester, OL Oklahoma
    52. New England Brian Calhoun, RB Wisconsin
    53. Washington Rocky McIntosh, LB Miami
    54. Kansas City Darryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech
    55. Cincinnati Dominique Byrd, TE USC
    56. N.Y. Giants Thomas Howard, LB UTEP
    57. Chicago Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan
    58. Carolina Joe Klopfenstein, TE Colorado
    59. Tampa Bay Andrew Whitworth, T LSU
    60. Jacksonville Jason Spitz, C Louisville
    61. Denver Mark Anderson, DE Alabama
    62. Indianapolis Daniel Bullocks, DB Nebraska
    63. Seattle Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College
    64. Pittsburgh Danieal Manning, DB Abilene Christian

    Third-Round Projections
    65. Houston Ko Simpson, DB South Carolina
    66. Houston (from NO) Gerris Wilkinson, LB Georgia Tech
    67. Green Bay Max Jean-Gilles, G Georgia
    68. San Francisco David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.)
    69. Oakland Maurice Drew, RB UCLA
    70. Buffalo (from TEN) Ryan O'Callaghan, T California
    71. N.Y. Jets Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin
    72. Arizona Jon Alston, LB Stanford
    73. Buffalo Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame
    74. Detroit Devin Hester, CB Miami
    75. New England (from BAL) Chris Gocong, DE/LB Cal Poly-SLO
    76. Philadelphia Claude Wroten, DT LSU
    77. St. Louis David Thomas, TE Texas
    78. Cleveland Charles Spencer, G Pittsburgh
    79. Atlanta Calvin Lowery, DB Penn St.
    80. Dallas Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson
    81. San Diego Paul McQuistan, OL Weber St.
    82. Miami Parys Haralson, DE Tennessee
    83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College
    84. San Francisco (from WSH) Victor Adeyanju, DE Indiana
    85. Kansas City Brandon Marshall, WR Central Florida
    86. New England Montavious Stanley, DT Louisville
    87. N.Y. Giants Kyle Williams, DT LSU
    88. Chicago Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame
    89. Carolina Darnell Bing, DB USC
    90. Tampa Bay Willie Reid, WR Fresno St.
    91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn
    92. Jacksonville Jerome Harrison, RB Washington St.
    93. Atlanta (from DEN) Devin Aromashodu, WR Auburn
    94. Indianapolis Dusty Dvoracek, DT Oklahoma
    95. Minnesota (from SEA) Le Kevin Smith, DT Nebraska
    96. Pittsburgh Brent Hawkins, DE/OLB Illinois St.
    97. N.Y. Jets (comp. pick) Roman Harper, DB Alabama

    Fourth-Round Projections
    98. Houston James Wyche, DE Syracuse
    99. New Orleans Demetrice Webb, CB Florida
    100. San Francisco Lawrence Vickers, FB Colorado
    101. Oakland Anthony Smith, DB Syracuse
    102. Tennessee Leon Washington, RB Florida St.
    103. N.Y. Jets Alan Zemaitis, CB Penn St.
    104. Green Bay Derrick Martin, CB Wyoming
    105. Buffalo Elvis Dumervil, DE Louisville
    106. New England (from DET) Guy Whimper, T East Carolina
    107. Arizona Fred Matua, G USC
    108. Philadelphia David Kirtman, FB USC
    109. St. Louis Kevin Boothe, OL Cornell
    110. Cleveland DeMario Minter, CB Georgia
    111. Baltimore Dion Byrum, CB Ohio
    112. Cleveland (from ATL) Rodrique Wright, DT Texas
    113. San Diego Babatunde Oshinowo, DT Stanford
    114. Miami Zach Strief, T Northwestern
    115. Minnesota Miles Austin, WR Monmouth
    116. Philadelphia (from DAL) Tarvaris Jackson, QB Alabama St.
    117. N.Y. Jets (from KC) Greg Eslinger, C Minnesota
    118. New England Derek Hagan, WR Arizona St.
    119. Denver (from WSH) Owen Daniels, TE Wisconsin
    120. Chicago Freddie Keiaho, LB San Diego St.
    121. Carolina Jonathan Scott, T Texas
    122. Tampa Bay Brandon Johnson, LB Louisville
    123. Cincinnati John McCargo, DT NC State
    124. N.Y. Giants Jeremy Trueblood, T Boston College
    125. Jacksonville James Anderson, LB Virginia Tech
    126. Denver Bernard Pollard, DB Purdue
    127. Philadelphia (from IND) Hank Baskett, WR New Mexico
    128. Seattle John Torp, P Colorado
    129. Pittsburgh Andre Hall, RB South Florida
    130. Denver (comp. pick) Jeremy Bloom, WR Colorado
    131. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Daryn Colledge, T Boise St.
    132. Baltimore (comp. pick) Rob Sims, G Ohio St.
    133. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green
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    Omar Jacobs is da last pick of da 4th round? Kiper has us takin' Kellen Clemens, a guy expected to go in da thoid or fourth rounds, in da second round, ahead of Jacobs and Charlie Whitehurst???

    Man, Kiper, I sure wish I had some of dat stuff you is smokin', y'know?

    HAH!
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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    wow.. i live 10 minutes from monmouth... didnt think anyone from there would be gettin drafted that early

    other than sims i dont like it..

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    please be wrong

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    thanks muggsy

    so why did kiper stop at 4 rounds? was he afraid that he might get a few picks wrong in rounds 5-7? :smile:

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    Re: His highness, Mel Kiper, Jr., picks da Vikes 1st 4 rounds

    I WANT VINCE YOUNG!!!!!!!

    I know many ppl don't care for his mechanics or Wunderlick results but I fell in love with him after watching the Rose Bowl. You just can't teach that winning edge or competitive fire. Those things can't be tested or measured. I wouldn't mind nabbing Clemmons but I'm not sure he'll drop that low.

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