Frank Coyle's raises and fallers.

**kevoncox** · 02-24-2008, 06:42 PM

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=778062

Alot of big names on here are dropping fast.
Bowman ran a 4.67? I ran that my junior year of high school. I'm 6'1 245, quick someone get me and agent.

**dcboardr41** · 02-24-2008, 07:01 PM

like i have said before
the combine is over rated
especially the 40 yd dash
you can learn just how to run the 40, emmit smith ran a 4.7, he had a good career didnt he?

**aaeyers** · 02-24-2008, 07:13 PM

"dcboardr41" wrote:

like i have said before
the combine is over rated
especially the 40 yd dash
you can learn just how to run the 40, emmit smith ran a 4.7, he had a good career didnt he?

So did Jerry Rice.

**kevoncox** · 02-24-2008, 09:27 PM

"aaeyers" wrote:

"dcboardr41" wrote:

like i have said before
the combine is over rated
especially the 40 yd dash
you can learn just how to run the 40, emmit smith ran a 4.7, he had a good career didnt he?

So did Jerry Rice.

I never use it to decide if to take a player. It's just a peice of the puzzle.

**jkjuggalo** · 02-24-2008, 09:58 PM

I do hope we take a speedy WR...just one that can catch.

**kevoncox** · 02-24-2008, 10:00 PM

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

I do hope we take a speedy WR...just one that can catch.

Sweed...........

**aaeyers** · 02-24-2008, 10:19 PM

"jkjuggalo" wrote:

I do hope we take a speedy WR...just one that can catch.

I hope they sign a vet who can come in and make a difference this season.

**nephilimstorm** · 02-24-2008, 10:40 PM

I hate this combine stuff, it just rediculous...but the nfl does what it does...

**stateVIKE44** · 02-24-2008, 11:04 PM

"kevoncox" wrote:

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=778062

Alot of big names on here are dropping fast.
Bowman ran a 4.67? I ran that my junior year of high school. I'm 6'1 245, quick someone get me and agent.

well not everyone is blessed with the raw athletic ability that you must possess... ;D. Manningham ran slow too, it's much more important to look at on field production, and how much separation they can get from a defender. Looking at the film and guaging speed from there is more beneficial in my opinion than just a flat out forty. How often is Bowman going to get lined up in a 3-point stance during the game? If you haven't practiced getting out of 3-point stance quickly then it is pretty tough to do sometimes. The start is where a lot of guys will add tenths of seconds to their times.

**Ranger** · 02-25-2008, 07:40 AM

Bowman has been getting raked over the coals about dropped balls as well.
It's funny though, because you'll see a handful of websites murdering a prospect about drops, then another couple of sites raving about his "excellent" hands.
He also underperformed on bench for a guy who is supposed to be TOesque.

A bigger concern to me is DeSean Jackson weighing in at 169lbs.
So, he's a really, really light and short receiver.
He's smaller than Ginn, man.
We need to stay away.