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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    b. I do like the idea of Cook, but he is a FA and I don't think the staff will sign him back, especially if he gets offers higher than what we saw Hicks get.
    Didn't we offer him an RFA tender? I thought that was the case.
    The idea of Cook getting any highball offers is somewhere between slim and none.
    What was your opinion of Hicks? Played all the positions Cook does and was older. He got an offer they didn't want to match. My guess, Cook will get about the same kindof interest, if not a bit higher.
    I thought that Hicks played well in both backup duty and his starting role with the Vikes. I cannot say the same for Cook. The only time I can recall saying that I was impressed when he played center when Sullivan went down last year. But that was due to the fact that he didnt false start the whole game. Regardless of position that was a big step for Cook.

    There is no way Cook gets even a whiff of a deal close to that of Hicks. Artis was a nasty blocker who gave a great deal of effort every play. I do not see the same with Cook.

    I wouldn't be opposed to keeping him as a backup for the line positions however. If they give him another opportunity at Center and he does well, lets roll with it.
    How many times have you seen a center false start?

    I was impressed by cook as an interior lineman because he wasn't injured, didn't get pushed back easily. He doesn't have to be as quick off the ball as a tackle would be in passing situations.

    Remember, we drafted him in the 2nd round, and Sullivan in the 6th. Cook was definitely a better prospect. The coaching staff is what ruined him.

    Sullivan had almost no upside, and is showing it. He's a reliable college center barely getting by as a starter in the NFL.
    Wasn't cook projected to go in the 6th like Jackson when we traded up to get him?

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    b. I do like the idea of Cook, but he is a FA and I don't think the staff will sign him back, especially if he gets offers higher than what we saw Hicks get.
    Didn't we offer him an RFA tender? I thought that was the case.
    The idea of Cook getting any highball offers is somewhere between slim and none.
    What was your opinion of Hicks? Played all the positions Cook does and was older. He got an offer they didn't want to match. My guess, Cook will get about the same kindof interest, if not a bit higher.
    I thought that Hicks played well in both backup duty and his starting role with the Vikes. I cannot say the same for Cook. The only time I can recall saying that I was impressed when he played center when Sullivan went down last year. But that was due to the fact that he didnt false start the whole game. Regardless of position that was a big step for Cook.

    There is no way Cook gets even a whiff of a deal close to that of Hicks. Artis was a nasty blocker who gave a great deal of effort every play. I do not see the same with Cook.

    I wouldn't be opposed to keeping him as a backup for the line positions however. If they give him another opportunity at Center and he does well, lets roll with it.
    How many times have you seen a center false start?

    I was impressed by cook as an interior lineman because he wasn't injured, didn't get pushed back easily. He doesn't have to be as quick off the ball as a tackle would be in passing situations.

    Remember, we drafted him in the 2nd round, and Sullivan in the 6th. Cook was definitely a better prospect. The coaching staff is what ruined him.

    Sullivan had almost no upside, and is showing it. He's a reliable college center barely getting by as a starter in the NFL.
    Wasn't cook projected to go in the 6th like Jackson when we traded up to get him?
    Either 5th or 6th, yes.

    I remember that draft, after taking Greenway and Griffin, I thought this would be a great draft, as I really liked both players. Then we took Cook, I didn't know him, so I look up his draft profile and they alls aid 5th or 6th round prospect, taken in the second...

    This is what nfldraftscout.com says about him:

    Projected Round: 5-6
    Rated number 17 out of 109 OT's 221 / 1713 TOTAL (221 would have been 7th round, pick 13)





    Then Jackson came off the board, and we all know about him.

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

    How many times have you seen a center false start?

    I guess I didnt explain myself very well on this. This was a bit of a satire given that what I saw from Cook at the Tackle spot was someone who either false started or screwed up an assignment. When he played last year at center (for I think one game) I was impressed and thought he did a nice job. My joke was that maybe having the ball under his nose precluded him from false starting.

    Aside from that I think that playing his natural position, Center, it seemed he played faster and more effectively.

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    Minnesota – They want Mike Pouncey, but aren’t sure if they can move down and get him a few spots later. I’ve been told that Da’Quan Bowers is unlikely to be the pick at this point.

    I've seen mocks that put Pouncey at 15 so I guess they may have to take him 12 if they want him.

    Anyway whatever rumors to add here before the truth comes out.
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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    Minnesota – They want Mike Pouncey, but aren’t sure if they can move down and get him a few spots later. I’ve been told that Da’Quan Bowers is unlikely to be the pick at this point.

    I've seen mocks that put Pouncey at 15 so I guess they may have to take him 12 if they want him.

    Anyway whatever rumors to add here before the truth comes out.
    I really hope we're not considering his brother's success in picking him.

    Treat him as if he were any other prospect.

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    Minnesota – They want Mike Pouncey, but aren’t sure if they can move down and get him a few spots later. I’ve been told that Da’Quan Bowers is unlikely to be the pick at this point.

    I've seen mocks that put Pouncey at 15 so I guess they may have to take him 12 if they want him.

    Anyway whatever rumors to add here before the truth comes out.
    I really hope we're not considering his brother's success in picking him.

    Treat him as if he were any other prospect.
    I have heard it said on NFL network by some of the talking heads that Pouncy is better than his brother coming out. If true, then considering his brothers success is a good barometer.
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

    How many times have you seen a center false start?
    Not that often last year because Loadholt beat him to it.

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    How many times have you seen a center false start?
    Not that often last year because Loadholt beat him to it.
    Lol
    seriously though, I have seen it. And it was while watching the Vikings

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    How many times have you seen a center false start?
    Not that often last year because Loadholt beat him to it.
    PL still has a way to go before reaching the number of penalties Steussie used to get.

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    Re: Draft OL in first round!

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    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1094962
    How many times have you seen a center false start?
    Not that often last year because Loadholt beat him to it.
    PL still has a way to go before reaching the number of penalties Steussie used to get.
    Please don't mention that name again. Baaaad memories.
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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