Thread: Current 08 Vikings

Taking out all the UFA's, RFA's
this is our current team. Where do we need to cut the fat, and what would you realistically add, taking into salary cap consideration, drafting and FA

QB: Tavaris Jackson: 2008: $445,000
Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

RB: Adrian Peterson: 2008: $1.925 million
Chester Taylor: 2008:
$3 million
Jeff Dugan
2008: $625,000
Tahi; 2008: $445,000

WR: Sidney Rice: No contract details
Bobby Wade: No Contract details
Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000
Aundrae Allison: 2008: $370,000


TE: Jim Kleinsasser: 2008: $2.4 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus
Visanthe Shiancoe:
Signed a five-year, $18.2 million contract. The deal includes $7 million guaranteed. He will make $8.2 million in 2007 and close to $12 million over the first three seasons.
Garrett Mills: 2008: $445,000

LT: McKinnie: Signed a seven-year, $48.5 million contract extension through 2013. The deal includes $18.15 million in total guarantees, $17.25 of which were paid out in the first year. Another $5 million is available through incentives tied to Pro Bowl appearances 2008: $3.25 million
Chase Johnson?????????

LG: Steve Hutchinson: 2008: $4.45 million

C: Matt Birk: 2008: $5.32 million (+ $400,000 roster bonus) 2009 Free Agent

RG: Anthony Herrera: 11/21/2007: Signed a five-year, $13.75 million contract. The deal includes $5 million in guarantees. Another $1.25 million is available through incentives.
Artis Hicks: 2008: $775,000

RT: Ryan Cook:
2008: $445,000
Marcus Johnson: 2008: $460,000

DE: Ray Edwards: 2008: $445,000 (Barring he doesn't get cut for "Character Issues")
Brian Robison: 2008: $370,000
Kenechi Udeze:
2008: $807,500
Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000
Jayme Mitchell: 2008: $445,000

DT: Pat Williams:

9/6/2007: Signed a three-year, $22 million contract extension through 2010. Williams was due $2.65 million in 2007 before signing the new deal. That salary is now guaranteed, pushing Williams' total guarantees to $11.9 million per the extension.

Kevin Williams: 2008-2009: $1 million
Fred Evans: 8/11/2007: Signed a two-year contract.


LB: Ben Leber:
2008: $2.45 million
Chad Greenway: 2008: $675,000
EJ Henderson: 2008: $2.5 million
Vinny Ciurciu: 2008: $605,000

CB: Cedric Griffin:
2008: $445,000
Antoine Winfield: 2008: $5.6 million
Marcus McCauley: 7/25/2007: Signed a four-year contract. The deal included a $786,000 signing bonus.
Charles Gordon: 2008: $445,000

S: Darren Sharper: 2008: $3.9 million (+ $100,000 roster bonus
Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring


Ryan Longwell: 2008: $1.62 million
Chris 10/25/2007: Signed a six-year, $8.3 million contract extension through 2013. The deal included a $1.7 million signing bonus and a $225,000 workout bonus.

I wouldn't shave much as I think most of the pieces are there for the puzzle to come together.
We need help/roster spots for Backup QB, Vet WR and DE.

Shave the following:

QB:
Both KH and BB
Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

Should be able to add a vet for that price or a bit more and then draft a mid-late guy to develop.

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.

S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.

"Marrdro" wrote:

QB:
Both KH and BB
Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)I can not believe we are paying those fools that much money.... cut at least one of the two

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year? With incentives, it probably had the ability to hit that.
However, he's not worth 900K the way he's played...

DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.I tend to disagree there, I tend to believe his surgery was never really successful and his play reflected it this year

S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
I like that idea actually.... Smith should be gone, and I'd like to see what Winfield would be like at Safety....but we would need that vet CB to cover.

I also think we have to consider Saus's salary... he may have to renegotiate or be let loose.
I think we're overpaying for Shank as well, but it's awfully early to write him off....

I think Hicks can go, he's worthless

"Marrdro" wrote:

I wouldn't shave much as I think most of the pieces are there for the puzzle to come together.
We need help/roster spots for Backup QB, Vet WR and DE.

Shave the following:

QB:
Both KH and BB
Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

Should be able to add a vet for that price or a bit more and then draft a mid-late guy to develop.

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.

S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.

Has Winfield ever played FS?..I don't think we should do that he is fine as a CB. What we should do is sign a saftey.

"Marrdro" wrote:

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

Its all about the 4.5 speed
Do you think that if I ran my 9.0 speed but caought twice as many balls I could get $455,000 from the Vikings?

"Garland" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

Its all about the 4.5 speed
Do you think that if I ran my 9.0 speed but caought twice as many balls I could get $455,000 from the Vikings?

4.3 speed actually
;D

"Mr" wrote:

"Garland" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

Its all about the 4.5 speed
Do you think that if I ran my 9.0 speed but caought twice as many balls I could get $455,000 from the Vikings?

4.3 speed actually
;D

I think I could do a 8.6 if I trained hard enough ;D

We need a quarterback who can stick the ball into his facemask..... like on necessary roughness!

"DaVizzles" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

I wouldn't shave much as I think most of the pieces are there for the puzzle to come together.
We need help/roster spots for Backup QB, Vet WR and DE.

Shave the following:

QB:
Both KH and BB
Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

Should be able to add a vet for that price or a bit more and then draft a mid-late guy to develop.

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.

S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.

Has Winfield ever played FS?..I don't think we should do that he is fine as a CB. What we should do is sign a saftey.

When I first saw mention of him adding 10 lbs and moving to FS I also looked.
Only thing I could find was that he played it in High School and we know that really doesn't mean anything.

I think he would fit pretty good in the Cover 2 as a FS though.
He isn't afraid to hit/tackle/support the run.
I don't think he would take very much more punishment in that role than he does already especially if he added a bit of wieght and strength without loosing any speed.

It would be an instant upgrade to our ability to Pass defend in the middle and he would still be able to support stopping the run.

http://vikingmania.blogspot.com/2007...6-antoine.html

"ThorSPL" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

QB:
Both KH and BB
Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)I can not believe we are paying those fools that much money.... cut at least one of the two

WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year? With incentives, it probably had the ability to hit that.
However, he's not worth 900K the way he's played...

DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.I tend to disagree there, I tend to believe his surgery was never really successful and his play reflected it this year

S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
I like that idea actually.... Smith should be gone, and I'd like to see what Winfield would be like at Safety....but we would need that vet CB to cover.

I also think we have to consider Saus's salary... he may have to renegotiate or be let loose.
I think we're overpaying for Shank as well, but it's awfully early to write him off....

I think Hicks can go, he's worthless

Thanks my friend.


As to Erasmus, I am kindof lumping him in the catagory that I've put T-will in.
He's had 3 years to do something, anything.
All he has done is get hurt.
We definately have enough talent in the learning mode and he isn't providing that veteran depth/production he should be.

This is, in my opinion, our biggest need to address in the offseason with WR damn close to it.
Use his spot for a Vet FA and lets move on.