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    Current 08 Vikings

    Taking out all the UFA's, RFA's
    this is our current team. Where do we need to cut the fat, and what would you realistically add, taking into salary cap consideration, drafting and FA

    QB: Tavaris Jackson: 2008: $445,000
    Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
    Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

    RB: Adrian Peterson: 2008: $1.925 million
    Chester Taylor: 2008:
    $3 million
    Jeff Dugan
    2008: $625,000
    Tahi; 2008: $445,000

    WR: Sidney Rice: No contract details
    Bobby Wade: No Contract details
    Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000
    Aundrae Allison: 2008: $370,000


    TE: Jim Kleinsasser: 2008: $2.4 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus
    Visanthe Shiancoe:
    Signed a five-year, $18.2 million contract. The deal includes $7 million guaranteed. He will make $8.2 million in 2007 and close to $12 million over the first three seasons.
    Garrett Mills: 2008: $445,000

    LT: McKinnie: Signed a seven-year, $48.5 million contract extension through 2013. The deal includes $18.15 million in total guarantees, $17.25 of which were paid out in the first year. Another $5 million is available through incentives tied to Pro Bowl appearances 2008: $3.25 million
    Chase Johnson?????????

    LG: Steve Hutchinson: 2008: $4.45 million

    C: Matt Birk: 2008: $5.32 million (+ $400,000 roster bonus) 2009 Free Agent

    RG: Anthony Herrera: 11/21/2007: Signed a five-year, $13.75 million contract. The deal includes $5 million in guarantees. Another $1.25 million is available through incentives.
    Artis Hicks: 2008: $775,000

    RT: Ryan Cook:
    2008: $445,000
    Marcus Johnson: 2008: $460,000

    DE: Ray Edwards: 2008: $445,000 (Barring he doesn't get cut for "Character Issues")
    Brian Robison: 2008: $370,000
    Kenechi Udeze:
    2008: $807,500
    Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000
    Jayme Mitchell: 2008: $445,000

    DT: Pat Williams:

    9/6/2007: Signed a three-year, $22 million contract extension through 2010. Williams was due $2.65 million in 2007 before signing the new deal. That salary is now guaranteed, pushing Williams' total guarantees to $11.9 million per the extension.

    Kevin Williams: 2008-2009: $1 million
    Fred Evans: 8/11/2007: Signed a two-year contract.


    LB: Ben Leber:
    2008: $2.45 million
    Chad Greenway: 2008: $675,000
    EJ Henderson: 2008: $2.5 million
    Vinny Ciurciu: 2008: $605,000

    CB: Cedric Griffin:
    2008: $445,000
    Antoine Winfield: 2008: $5.6 million
    Marcus McCauley: 7/25/2007: Signed a four-year contract. The deal included a $786,000 signing bonus.
    Charles Gordon: 2008: $445,000

    S: Darren Sharper: 2008: $3.9 million (+ $100,000 roster bonus
    Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring


    Ryan Longwell: 2008: $1.62 million
    Chris 10/25/2007: Signed a six-year, $8.3 million contract extension through 2013. The deal included a $1.7 million signing bonus and a $225,000 workout bonus.
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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

    I wouldn't shave much as I think most of the pieces are there for the puzzle to come together.
    We need help/roster spots for Backup QB, Vet WR and DE.

    Shave the following:

    QB:
    Both KH and BB
    Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
    Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

    Should be able to add a vet for that price or a bit more and then draft a mid-late guy to develop.

    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

    DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

    We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.

    S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

    Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

    "Marrdro" wrote:

    QB:
    Both KH and BB
    Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
    Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)I can not believe we are paying those fools that much money.... cut at least one of the two

    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year? With incentives, it probably had the ability to hit that.
    However, he's not worth 900K the way he's played...


    DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

    We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.I tend to disagree there, I tend to believe his surgery was never really successful and his play reflected it this year

    S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

    Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
    I like that idea actually.... Smith should be gone, and I'd like to see what Winfield would be like at Safety....but we would need that vet CB to cover.

    I also think we have to consider Saus's salary... he may have to renegotiate or be let loose.
    I think we're overpaying for Shank as well, but it's awfully early to write him off....

    I think Hicks can go, he's worthless



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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    I wouldn't shave much as I think most of the pieces are there for the puzzle to come together.
    We need help/roster spots for Backup QB, Vet WR and DE.

    Shave the following:

    QB:
    Both KH and BB
    Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
    Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

    Should be able to add a vet for that price or a bit more and then draft a mid-late guy to develop.

    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

    DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

    We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.

    S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

    Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
    Has Winfield ever played FS?..I don't think we should do that he is fine as a CB. What we should do is sign a saftey.

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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?
    Its all about the 4.5 speed
    Do you think that if I ran my 9.0 speed but caought twice as many balls I could get $455,000 from the Vikings?

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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?
    Its all about the 4.5 speed
    Do you think that if I ran my 9.0 speed but caought twice as many balls I could get $455,000 from the Vikings?
    4.3 speed actually
    ;D

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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

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    "Garland" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?
    Its all about the 4.5 speed
    Do you think that if I ran my 9.0 speed but caought twice as many balls I could get $455,000 from the Vikings?

    4.3 speed actually
    ;D
    I think I could do a 8.6 if I trained hard enough ;D

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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

    We need a quarterback who can stick the ball into his facemask..... like on necessary roughness!


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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    I wouldn't shave much as I think most of the pieces are there for the puzzle to come together.
    We need help/roster spots for Backup QB, Vet WR and DE.

    Shave the following:

    QB:
    Both KH and BB
    Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
    Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)

    Should be able to add a vet for that price or a bit more and then draft a mid-late guy to develop.

    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year?

    DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

    We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.

    S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

    Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
    Has Winfield ever played FS?..I don't think we should do that he is fine as a CB. What we should do is sign a saftey.
    When I first saw mention of him adding 10 lbs and moving to FS I also looked.
    Only thing I could find was that he played it in High School and we know that really doesn't mean anything.

    I think he would fit pretty good in the Cover 2 as a FS though.
    He isn't afraid to hit/tackle/support the run.
    I don't think he would take very much more punishment in that role than he does already especially if he added a bit of wieght and strength without loosing any speed.

    It would be an instant upgrade to our ability to Pass defend in the middle and he would still be able to support stopping the run.

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    Re: Current 08 Vikings

    "ThorSPL" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:

    QB:
    Both KH and BB
    Kelly Holcomb: 2008: $1,535,000 (+ $150,000 roster bonus)
    Brooks Bollinger: 2008: $950,000 (+ $250,000 roster bonus)I can not believe we are paying those fools that much money.... cut at least one of the two

    WR: Troy Williamson: 2008: $910,000

    Why does everyone say he has a $4 mill hit this year? With incentives, it probably had the ability to hit that.
    However, he's not worth 900K the way he's played...


    DE: Erasmus James: 2008: $695,000

    We will have to put up more than that for a guy but heck, we have some CAP, spend some of it.I tend to disagree there, I tend to believe his surgery was never really successful and his play reflected it this year

    S: Dwight Smith (Investigation still ongoing) 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $500,000 roster bonus due in spring

    Move Winfield back to FS and add a vet CB with this guys money.
    I like that idea actually.... Smith should be gone, and I'd like to see what Winfield would be like at Safety....but we would need that vet CB to cover.

    I also think we have to consider Saus's salary... he may have to renegotiate or be let loose.
    I think we're overpaying for Shank as well, but it's awfully early to write him off....

    I think Hicks can go, he's worthless

    Thanks my friend.


    As to Erasmus, I am kindof lumping him in the catagory that I've put T-will in.
    He's had 3 years to do something, anything.
    All he has done is get hurt.
    We definately have enough talent in the learning mode and he isn't providing that veteran depth/production he should be.

    This is, in my opinion, our biggest need to address in the offseason with WR damn close to it.
    Use his spot for a Vet FA and lets move on.
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