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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    "Zeus" wrote:
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    [quote author=Prophet link=topic=32101.msg544502#msg544502 date=1173120985]
    Yes, it's a critical yr for Childress and I'm sure he knows it.
    I bet he isn't near as worried about it as some on this board are and it's his own career that is on the line.
    It's not his career.
    It's his first, and perhaps only, head coaching job.
    But it's not a career.
    He'll find work elsewhere after he leaves here - they all do.

    But for Vikings fans - this is life, not just a job.
    Perhaps that's why passion runs so high.

    =Z=
    Assuming he wants to be an HC it is his career.
    He has coached professionally for >30 yrs and has finally got a shot as an HC in the NFL.
    If his final goal is to go to administration in the NFL than it's just another stepping stone.
    It is his career, unless he wants to make progressive moves backwards like Tice.
    That's a rather loose definition of career.

    In any case - his passion for the Vikings is not bred into him by a lifetime of Drew Pearson pushing off, Darrin Nelson dropping the ball or Gary Anderson shanking a FG, as it is for many on this site.
    You brought up why The Big Chill isn't showing the angst and worry of PP.Oers, I'm trying to explore reasons why.

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    A loose definition?
    In a professional field there is a top position and if that is your goal, to be the best, then you go for it.
    There is a progression that leads you to your career goal.
    Childress started off cleaning for a team as a young lad and has worked through the ranks progressively to get where he is today.
    If his goal was to be an HC, I don't know if that is, then he would want to be the best HC and walk away with some rings.
    If his goal is to be the NFL commissioner, then being an HC could be another step in the wrung.
    That's not a loose definition of a professional career.
    It is on target.
    But the implication that his career is over if he fails at this HC job is where we divert, I believe.


    And I can't believe you just glossed past the Drew Pearson comment, you bitch!

    =Z=
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    I figured that would annoy you.

    Ok, diverge away.
    But, if he flops here at his first HCing position and his career goal is to be an HC then it could be over.
    He could be going down the path of the Tices and Haslett's of the world.
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain

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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    I agree totally with that.
    I live in Kitty Kat land and I have two or three, or maybe even four examples of coaches who get there first run at HC and never win after that ie;
    Bruce Coslett, Dick Labeau, Dave Shula, etc.
    I am not saying he is anything near what those coaches were, but all he has to do is look at there success, which was none, and he should get motivated by that.

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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
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    [quote author=Zeus link=topic=32101.msg544506#msg544506 date=1173121271]
    [quote author=Prophet link=topic=32101.msg544502#msg544502 date=1173120985]
    Yes, it's a critical yr for Childress and I'm sure he knows it.
    I bet he isn't near as worried about it as some on this board are and it's his own career that is on the line.
    It's not his career.
    It's his first, and perhaps only, head coaching job.
    But it's not a career.
    He'll find work elsewhere after he leaves here - they all do.

    But for Vikings fans - this is life, not just a job.
    Perhaps that's why passion runs so high.

    =Z=
    Assuming he wants to be an HC it is his career.
    He has coached professionally for >30 yrs and has finally got a shot as an HC in the NFL.
    If his final goal is to go to administration in the NFL than it's just another stepping stone.
    It is his career, unless he wants to make progressive moves backwards like Tice.
    That's a rather loose definition of career.

    In any case - his passion for the Vikings is not bred into him by a lifetime of Drew Pearson pushing off, Darrin Nelson dropping the ball or Gary Anderson shanking a FG, as it is for many on this site.
    You brought up why The Big Chill isn't showing the angst and worry of PP.Oers, I'm trying to explore reasons why.

    =Z=
    A loose definition?
    In a professional field there is a top position and if that is your goal, to be the best, then you go for it.
    There is a progression that leads you to your career goal.
    Childress started off cleaning for a team as a young lad and has worked through the ranks progressively to get where he is today.
    If his goal was to be an HC, I don't know if that is, then he would want to be the best HC and walk away with some rings.
    If his goal is to be the NFL commissioner, then being an HC could be another step in the wrung.
    That's not a loose definition of a professional career.
    It is on target.
    But the implication that his career is over if he fails at this HC job is where we divert, I believe.


    And I can't believe you just glossed past the Drew Pearson comment, you beeyatch!

    =Z=
    [/quote]

    I figured that would annoy you.

    Ok, diverge away.
    But, if he flops here at his first HCing position and his career goal is to be an HC then it could be over.
    He could be going down the path of the Tices and Haslett's of the world.
    [/quote]

    The parodox is: if he flops here as a head coach, he also flops as an offensive coordinator.
    Therefore he will be relegated to assistant qb coach in the pros(aka waterboy) . Or head coach of North Central Fairbanks Junior Community College!
    “What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    Doesn't know his butt from his elbow eh? that takes a lot of stupidity, although we'll find out if that's true next season.-

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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    Yes, it's a critical yr for Childress and I'm sure he knows it.
    I bet he isn't near as worried about it as some on this board are and it's his own career that is on the line.
    It's not his career.
    It's his first, and perhaps only, head coaching job.
    But it's not a career.
    He'll find work elsewhere after he leaves here - they all do.

    But for Vikings fans - this is life, not just a job.
    Perhaps that's why passion runs so high.

    =Z=
    Assuming he wants to be an HC it is his career.
    He has coached professionally for >30 yrs and has finally got a shot as an HC in the NFL.
    If his final goal is to go to administration in the NFL than it's just another stepping stone.
    It is his career, unless he wants to make progressive moves backwards like Tice.
    That's a rather loose definition of career.

    In any case - his passion for the Vikings is not bred into him by a lifetime of Drew Pearson pushing off, Darrin Nelson dropping the ball or Gary Anderson shanking a FG, as it is for many on this site.
    You brought up why The Big Chill isn't showing the angst and worry of PP.Oers, I'm trying to explore reasons why.

    =Z=
    Good God you hit the nail on the head there

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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    Honestly these posts ar getting real old.
    Can't we wait to bash him tell next year.
    People act like he makes the personnel decisions.
    Sorry folks you can't pin that on him.

    Let me tell you something I've seen Childress long before anyone on this site even knew him.
    I was an undergrad at the University of Wisconsin, his first year in Madison.
    He was Coach Alverez's offensive coordinator.
    The people down here, were hard on him back then too.
    They said the Offense was too boring, or "workman like" to win anything.
    Yet even then he preached quality in his student athletes, he wanted good well rounded individuals, who were good people.
    Well three years after the program got under way those Badgers won their first Rose Bowl in many years.

    Childress was a big part of that team, he helped set a tempo and mood in that locker room which still stands today.
    Which I might add routinely kick the gophers ass.
    I know that is neither here nor there, but the bottom line is the guy knows how to motivate men.
    I have no doubt he will succeed in Minny give him a break.

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    Re: Childress offically doesn't know his elbow from his butt

    "Mikecarter81" wrote:
    Honestly these posts ar getting real old.
    Can't we wait to bash him tell next year?


    Awww Come on, this is the offseason and there are two feet of snow on the ground, what else do we have t do but rip on the coach? It keeps us in practice so when the season rolls around we are in top form. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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