You post was outstanding and hits the nail on the head except for one point.
Green was the one who brought Dungy in with him in 1992. Before that Floyd Peters was our Defensive coordinator and regarded as the best in the business. I was ticked when they hired Green and let him go to Tampa. So in reality Dungy was brought in to Minnesota with Green and was there through 1995 and in that time he went from having the best defense in the league in 1992 and 93 to a situation where the team declined every year until we hit 20th in Dungy's final year.
When he went to tampa, he again inherited a defense that was coached by Peters prior to his arrival and had gone from 26th to 20th to 12th before he arrived and to 8th in his first year.
He brought in Monte kiffin if I am not mistaken to run that defense and he did a great job of maintaining what Peters started .Add to that the first year that the TB defense was ranked 1st was the year after Dungy left and went to Indy and Gruden was the head coach.
And you have to be wrong about coaching to the talent you have. There is no way that will ever work, you have to bring in all of the players to fit your scheme and then have each player at their position for 3-5 years before a scheme can work
I think you are incorrect. The best defenses under Dungy in Minnesota were in 93 & 94.
1991 14th (Peters)
Furthermore it's a tad misleading to say the least, to say, "the team declined every year until we hit 20th in Dungy's final year"
when we went from 5th to 20th in just one year.
1995 27th (Peters)
2002 1st (Kiffin)
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=OP P&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatist icCategory=GAME_STATS&season=1991&seasonType=REG&t abSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Find
If you strongly feel it takes 3-5 years to turn a defense around, how do you account for the fact that Dungy took his teams into the top 3 in his second year at both Minnesota & Tampa?
The part about 3-5 years was sarcasm. Sorry you missed it. Next time check the smiley
As far as the stats, a few things. One, I guess you get different stats depending on which sites you use. If you use Pro-Football Reference.com, you will see stats that have a different conclusion than what you posted http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995/opp.htm
But how can you post
And argue that I was wrong that their defense declined? Show me where it was trending upward.
It is also curious that you call me out saying what I said was misleading when you stated:
Our defense declined after Green took over, not so much because Green took over, but because that same year, the man who should have been named head coach, Tony Dungy left & took his great defensive coaching skills & abilities with him.
How could Dungy leave the team the same year Green took over when Green was the one who hired him and brought him to the team? How could you make the above statement" Our defense declined after Green took over" and then tell me I was incorrect when I said the same thing?