Thread: Calvin Johnson worth the price for Vikings

With all the draft speculation and overkill on the Internet and ESPN, I have yet to hear anyone even recognize the possibility of the Vikings trading up to get Calvin Johnson!
Of all the 32 teams, the Vikings need help at wide receiver more than any other.
And, Johnson appears to be a "once in a generation" player.
He's tougher than Moss, faster than T. O. , catches like C. C. , and actually seems to be a hard-working, nice guy.
What's not to like?
I understand that it would cost a lot to move up high enough to get him, but I think it would be worth considering.
With all the young talent the Vikings have accumulated over the last four years, a sure-thing superstar like Johnson would be the final piece of the puzzle, no matter how much it costs!

"travalhalla" wrote:

With all the draft speculation and overkill on the Internet and ESPN, I have yet to hear anyone even recognize the possibility of the Vikings trading up to get Calvin Johnson!
Of all the 32 teams, the Vikings need help at wide receiver more than any other.

And, Johnson appears to be a "once in a generation" player.

He's tougher than Moss, faster than T. O. , catches like C. C. , and actually seems to be a hard-working, nice guy.

What's not to like?
I understand that it would cost a lot to move up high enough to get him, but I think it would be worth considering.
With all the young talent the Vikings have accumulated over the last four years, a sure-thing superstar like Johnson would be the final piece of the puzzle, no matter how much it costs!

We had our "once in a generation" player already.

I don't think we get another shot at one until 2010.
:-\

Seriously, I think the price we'd half to pay to move up 6 picks would be very costly. We need those extra pics to add depth at a lot of different positions. WR & OL being big ones, along with DE, LB & CB's.

The O-line is very weak at depth.

I actually think they will trade down for more pics, unless there happens to be a gem there at #7 that we can use.

Welcome Travalhalla as a former Rookie on the site i will give you some pointers.

1. Dont post about CJ.BQ. OR AP its at least 100 threads of those

2. anything Vikings Related or Info Will already be posted so dont post it to avoid PP.O Hell


Well thats all post well have FUN an SKOL!

"SageVike" wrote:

Welcome Travalhalla as a former Rookie on the site i will give you some pointers.

1. Dont post about CJ.BQ. OR AP its at least 100 threads of those

2. anything Vikings Related or Info Will already be posted so dont post it to avoid PP.O Hell


Well thats all post well have FUN an SKOL!

You forgot one....

3. Never make fun of PPO.org posting rules and behavioral norms.
;D

its okay to make fun of webby though. he never does anything.

Welcome Travalhalla!

My thoughts....

CJohnson will likely be a good or a very good WR in the NFL someday.
But not certainly; he could suffer a career-threatening injury, or could not perform at an elite level everyone seems to expect from him.

Much of the hype over CJ is due to the fact that his agent needs to boost him as high as possible in the draft to raise his commission, which is based on Johnson's contract.
Therefore, none of the negatives about Johnson will be heard by fans, but those negative aspects will be known to scouts analyzing both the positives and negatives.


Because the Vikings are in year 2 of a 3 year rebuilding plan, it makes very little sense to reduce the number of draft selections to move up for one player when there are several areas in need of upgrading; i.e. WR (two new players needed), QB, DE, RG, and possibly RB.


Trading up to get CJ will leave no first day picks to upgrade in areas other than WR.
That is especially problematic because two quality WRs are needed, and upgrades at DE, RB and QB would greatly help the Vikings continue rebuilding with quality players.


The Vikings won't abandon a 3-year plan they have followed well for one-and-a-half years to acquire a WR who has a risk of not panning out due to poor performance or a career-ending injury.

Basically, the Vikes could gamble on the best prospect...and they might only have to move to #3 to get him...or they could be a bunch of chickenshits like Purplexing advocates and get two or three mediocre players who could ALSO get injured or not even pan out.

Sometimes you just gotta say, "What the FUCK"!

Yeah i don't see the vikes moving up to get CJ either.
I think if they did try to move up they wouldn't even attempt to move up any higher than #3.
If the vikes weren't in the rebuilding mode like they are and CJ wasn't picked at #1 and #2, i could see them trying to move up.
If i were making the decisions i would move up to #3 but it would be very costly.
I would still do it though.
I see the vikes trading down if AP, Quinn, or Gaines isn't there at #7 since they are rebuilding and need all the picks they can get.

"cajunvike" wrote:

Basically, the Vikes could gamble on the best prospect...and they might only have to move to #3 to get him...or they could be a bunch of chickenshits like Purplexing advocates and get two or three mediocre players who could ALSO get injured or not even pan out.

Sometimes you just gotta say, "What the FUCK"!

Cajun for Pres!!

"Nebvikefan" wrote:

Yeah i don't see the vikes moving up to get CJ either.
I think if they did try to move up they wouldn't even attempt to move up any higher than #3.
If the vikes weren't in the rebuilding mode like they are and CJ wasn't picked at #1 and #2, i could see them trying to move up.
If i were making the decisions i would move up to #3 but it would be very costly.
I would still do it though.
I see the vikes trading down if AP, Quinn, or Gaines isn't there at #7 since they are rebuilding and need all the picks they can get.

The main problem with trading down is that they have to find someone willing to trade UP for the seventh spot...and I haven't heard any rumors about teams clamoring to do that.
I hope that we can trade down if the Vikes decide not to trade up for the BIG PRIZE...I mainly just want the Vikes to be willing to gamble a bit instead of just standing pat at #7 and reaching for a need instead of going after the BPA...or taking the BPA at a position that we don't really need to shore up.
My biggest fear is that the BPA at #7 will be a DT, so then we either don't get our true needs filled or we take the next best value or the one after that and lose value at our pick.
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