Thread: Bring back Johnson?

"Marrdro" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

"bleedpurple" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

It was a reasonable and calculated risk at the time and one of the reasons we are in the QB quandry that we are in.
Culpepper pscyhoed out and started sending emails to the associated press and they inked TJack.
BJ had a reasonable season taking over the team after 'small hands' blew out his knee.
So, they put BJ in as the starter with the idea that TJack would learn on the sidelines.
When BJ folded and TJack was tossed into the mix his rookie year it was a bad decision to have nothing going in the QB slot going into the '07 season with the likes of Bollinger and Holcomb in the shadows and a never-has-played-any-competition-worth-mentioning rookie QB leading the team with absolutely no competition in the shadows.

That being said, BJ played wonderfully when asked to take the reigns when Romo hurt his pinky.
He tossed for 427 yds ant 2 TDs (ignoring that this was in 3 games and he had 5 INTS and 8 sacks and fumbled once).

no matter how he played the year before, i think it was a drastic mistake going into 2006 with him as our starter.... he's just too old and i doubt he'll be on a roster next year unless it's in a coaching/back up roll....

his arm is worse than favre's with a banged up shoulder!!..

In retrospect it was a bad decision.
Given all the needs on the team at the time and the Daunte psychopath ordeal it was a reasonable decision.
Going into '07 having TJack as the starter was a much more irrational decision.
A guy from Alabama State that played a couple games in '07 and was more raw than Gianna Michaels on a Saturday night.

The intelligent decision, which I wanted to see happen, was to bring in another vet to replace Johnson. Most notably Jeff Garcia.

But I was in the minority here. The majority of the PP.O fan base said Johnson would be fine & "he had a ring".

They were wrong. Mobility was an issue as well, as our o-line in 2006 was one of the worst in the NFL

There was a glut of QB's available in FA & we could have easily found an upgrade that would have given us the 2 years we needed to bring Jackson along. One only needed to look at the record of the teams Johnson won & the teams that he lost to & surmise he didn't have what it took to start.

2006 FA QB's;

QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
QB Shaun Hill Signed Minnesota Vikings San Francisco 49ers
QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
QB Doug Johnson Signed Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals
QB Rob Johnson Signed Free Agent New York Giants
QB James Kilian UFA (Cut) Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
QB Shaun King UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
QB Jon Kitna Signed Cincinnati Bengals Detroit Lions
QB Tommy Maddox UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Jamie Martin Signed St. Louis Rams New Orleans Saints
QB Shane Matthews UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
QB Josh McCown Signed Arizona Cardinals Detroit Lions
QB Mike McMahon UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Jim Miller Signed New York Giants Retired
QB Craig Nall Signed Green Bay Packers Buffalo Bills
QB Jeff Otis Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Jesse Palmer Signed San Francisco 49ers CFL
QB Preston Parsons Signed Houston Texans Denver Broncos
QB Mike Quinn Signed Free Agent CFL
QB Dave Ragone Signed Houston Texans Cincinnati Bengals
QB Bryan Randall Signed Free Agent Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Reggie Robertson Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Sage Rosenfels Signed Miami Dolphins Houston Texans
QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers

Problem was at that time, most of us thought that he could perform at the same level he did the year before when he came if to spell Pepp.

Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
Not only were his skills on the down hill side when we brought him in again, they quickly deterioated the next year.

Kindof makes me think of two vets on the current roster that some say need to go but others keep saying will be find next year.... :

At the time FA hit, I don't think Culpepper was even a viable option. Wasn't it pretty clear by then, Childress didn't want him back & Culpepper didn't want to come back?

"Marrdro" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

"bleedpurple" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

It was a reasonable and calculated risk at the time and one of the reasons we are in the QB quandry that we are in.
Culpepper pscyhoed out and started sending emails to the associated press and they inked TJack.
BJ had a reasonable season taking over the team after 'small hands' blew out his knee.
So, they put BJ in as the starter with the idea that TJack would learn on the sidelines.
When BJ folded and TJack was tossed into the mix his rookie year it was a bad decision to have nothing going in the QB slot going into the '07 season with the likes of Bollinger and Holcomb in the shadows and a never-has-played-any-competition-worth-mentioning rookie QB leading the team with absolutely no competition in the shadows.

That being said, BJ played wonderfully when asked to take the reigns when Romo hurt his pinky.
He tossed for 427 yds ant 2 TDs (ignoring that this was in 3 games and he had 5 INTS and 8 sacks and fumbled once).

no matter how he played the year before, i think it was a drastic mistake going into 2006 with him as our starter.... he's just too old and i doubt he'll be on a roster next year unless it's in a coaching/back up roll....

his arm is worse than favre's with a banged up shoulder!!..

In retrospect it was a bad decision.
Given all the needs on the team at the time and the Daunte psychopath ordeal it was a reasonable decision.
Going into '07 having TJack as the starter was a much more irrational decision.
A guy from Alabama State that played a couple games in '07 and was more raw than Gianna Michaels on a Saturday night.

The intelligent decision, which I wanted to see happen, was to bring in another vet to replace Johnson. Most notably Jeff Garcia.

But I was in the minority here. The majority of the PP.O fan base said Johnson would be fine & "he had a ring".

They were wrong. Mobility was an issue as well, as our o-line in 2006 was one of the worst in the NFL

There was a glut of QB's available in FA & we could have easily found an upgrade that would have given us the 2 years we needed to bring Jackson along. One only needed to look at the record of the teams Johnson won & the teams that he lost to & surmise he didn't have what it took to start.

2006 FA QB's;

QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
QB Shaun Hill Signed Minnesota Vikings San Francisco 49ers
QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
QB Doug Johnson Signed Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals
QB Rob Johnson Signed Free Agent New York Giants
QB James Kilian UFA (Cut) Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
QB Shaun King UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
QB Jon Kitna Signed Cincinnati Bengals Detroit Lions
QB Tommy Maddox UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Jamie Martin Signed St. Louis Rams New Orleans Saints
QB Shane Matthews UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
QB Josh McCown Signed Arizona Cardinals Detroit Lions
QB Mike McMahon UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Jim Miller Signed New York Giants Retired
QB Craig Nall Signed Green Bay Packers Buffalo Bills
QB Jeff Otis Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Jesse Palmer Signed San Francisco 49ers CFL
QB Preston Parsons Signed Houston Texans Denver Broncos
QB Mike Quinn Signed Free Agent CFL
QB Dave Ragone Signed Houston Texans Cincinnati Bengals
QB Bryan Randall Signed Free Agent Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Reggie Robertson Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Sage Rosenfels Signed Miami Dolphins Houston Texans
QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers

Problem was at that time, most of us thought that he could perform at the same level he did the year before when he came if to spell Pepp.

Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
Not only were his skills on the down hill side when we brought him in again, they quickly deterioated the next year.

Kindof makes me think of two vets on the current roster that some say need to go but others keep saying will be find next year.... :

He did.

Lest you remember the team started out 4-2 and beat good teams like Washington and Carolina to start the year.

It took a while for the KAO to really start screwing up the team. But once it got a choke hold on the offense we finally got to see it and Childress's coaching prowress in all of it's glory when Belichick came in and showed him how coaching is done.

"singersp" wrote:

At the time FA hit, I don't think Culpepper was even a viable option. Wasn't it pretty clear by then, Childress didn't want him back & Culpepper didn't want to come back?

Yes

"singersp" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

"bleedpurple" wrote:

[quote author=Prophet link=topic=50247.msg900944#msg900944 date=1232719777]
It was a reasonable and calculated risk at the time and one of the reasons we are in the QB quandry that we are in.
Culpepper pscyhoed out and started sending emails to the associated press and they inked TJack.
BJ had a reasonable season taking over the team after 'small hands' blew out his knee.
So, they put BJ in as the starter with the idea that TJack would learn on the sidelines.
When BJ folded and TJack was tossed into the mix his rookie year it was a bad decision to have nothing going in the QB slot going into the '07 season with the likes of Bollinger and Holcomb in the shadows and a never-has-played-any-competition-worth-mentioning rookie QB leading the team with absolutely no competition in the shadows.

That being said, BJ played wonderfully when asked to take the reigns when Romo hurt his pinky.
He tossed for 427 yds ant 2 TDs (ignoring that this was in 3 games and he had 5 INTS and 8 sacks and fumbled once).

no matter how he played the year before, i think it was a drastic mistake going into 2006 with him as our starter.... he's just too old and i doubt he'll be on a roster next year unless it's in a coaching/back up roll....

his arm is worse than favre's with a banged up shoulder!!..

In retrospect it was a bad decision.
Given all the needs on the team at the time and the Daunte psychopath ordeal it was a reasonable decision.
Going into '07 having TJack as the starter was a much more irrational decision.
A guy from Alabama State that played a couple games in '07 and was more raw than Gianna Michaels on a Saturday night.

The intelligent decision, which I wanted to see happen, was to bring in another vet to replace Johnson. Most notably Jeff Garcia.

But I was in the minority here. The majority of the PP.O fan base said Johnson would be fine & "he had a ring".

They were wrong. Mobility was an issue as well, as our o-line in 2006 was one of the worst in the NFL

There was a glut of QB's available in FA & we could have easily found an upgrade that would have given us the 2 years we needed to bring Jackson along. One only needed to look at the record of the teams Johnson won & the teams that he lost to & surmise he didn't have what it took to start.

2006 FA QB's;

QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
QB Shaun Hill Signed Minnesota Vikings San Francisco 49ers
QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
QB Doug Johnson Signed Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals
QB Rob Johnson Signed Free Agent New York Giants
QB James Kilian UFA (Cut) Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
QB Shaun King UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
QB Jon Kitna Signed Cincinnati Bengals Detroit Lions
QB Tommy Maddox UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Jamie Martin Signed St. Louis Rams New Orleans Saints
QB Shane Matthews UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
QB Josh McCown Signed Arizona Cardinals Detroit Lions
QB Mike McMahon UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
QB Jim Miller Signed New York Giants Retired
QB Craig Nall Signed Green Bay Packers Buffalo Bills
QB Jeff Otis Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Jesse Palmer Signed San Francisco 49ers CFL
QB Preston Parsons Signed Houston Texans Denver Broncos
QB Mike Quinn Signed Free Agent CFL
QB Dave Ragone Signed Houston Texans Cincinnati Bengals
QB Bryan Randall Signed Free Agent Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Reggie Robertson Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Sage Rosenfels Signed Miami Dolphins Houston Texans
QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers

Problem was at that time, most of us thought that he could perform at the same level he did the year before when he came if to spell Pepp.

Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
Not only were his skills on the down hill side when we brought him in again, they quickly deterioated the next year.

Kindof makes me think of two vets on the current roster that some say need to go but others keep saying will be find next year.... :

At the time FA hit, I don't think Culpepper was even a viable option. Wasn't it pretty clear by then, Childress didn't want him back & Culpepper didn't want to come back?
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The timing in my mind tracks that way.
My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

"Marrdro" wrote:

The timing in my mind tracks that way.
My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

With what was happening with his contract talks & the fact that he suffered, IMO, what was a career ending injury (at least in a starting role) & probably wouldn't be ready for season opener, he was already thinking of who his starter should be.

Trade talks didn't become public until mid-February, so it's a safe bet they were discussing it way before that.

They too probably felt that BJ had another year in him, but instead of looking at the lackluster teams that BJ won against, they threw their eggs in one basket & being the *cough* guru that he is, hoped to get someone in the draft for the 2007 season.

"Marrdro" wrote:

until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

Lol

If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

Lol

If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

Marrdro is interweaving his dreams into what he thinks Childress' thoughts were.

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

Lol

If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

How in the hell did you get that out of my post?

"Marrdro" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

Lol

If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

How in the hell did you get that out of my post?

How did I get that you reached a point in your theorizing on the 2006 draft where you have finally convinced yourself that they were planning on having cutler on the roster before the draft even began?

I'm not sure..

Quote from: Marrdro on Yesterday at 08:49:05 AM The timing in my mind tracks that way.
My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude...... Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.

Lol

If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

How in the hell did you get that out of my post?

How did I get that you reached a point in your theorizing on the 2006 draft where you have finally convinced yourself that they were planning on having cutler on the roster before the draft even began?

I'm not sure..

Quote from: Marrdro on Yesterday at 08:49:05 AM The timing in my mind tracks that way.
My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude...... Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

OK, that is not how I read your post.....It was the "Threw up the hands" comment that threw me for a loop.

and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

Quick question, do you think that they don't have a myriad of draft scenario's worked up in the warroom on who they want to take, who they think (other teams) want to take and were they think those cats will go?

I do, and that is one of the biggest issues I had with Foley.

He didn't seem to have a clue that the Jets were interested in Clemens, that Griff and Cook would/could have gone later.....

Again, don't you think that kindof discussions/plans/scenarios are talked about in the halls of Winter Park?