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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    "singersp" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
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    It was a reasonable and calculated risk at the time and one of the reasons we are in the QB quandry that we are in.
    Culpepper pscyhoed out and started sending emails to the associated press and they inked TJack.
    BJ had a reasonable season taking over the team after 'small hands' blew out his knee.
    So, they put BJ in as the starter with the idea that TJack would learn on the sidelines.
    When BJ folded and TJack was tossed into the mix his rookie year it was a bad decision to have nothing going in the QB slot going into the '07 season with the likes of Bollinger and Holcomb in the shadows and a never-has-played-any-competition-worth-mentioning rookie QB leading the team with absolutely no competition in the shadows.

    That being said, BJ played wonderfully when asked to take the reigns when Romo hurt his pinky.
    He tossed for 427 yds ant 2 TDs (ignoring that this was in 3 games and he had 5 INTS and 8 sacks and fumbled once).
    no matter how he played the year before, i think it was a drastic mistake going into 2006 with him as our starter.... he's just too old and i doubt he'll be on a roster next year unless it's in a coaching/back up roll....

    his arm is worse than favre's with a banged up shoulder!!..
    In retrospect it was a bad decision.
    Given all the needs on the team at the time and the Daunte psychopath ordeal it was a reasonable decision.
    Going into '07 having TJack as the starter was a much more irrational decision.
    A guy from Alabama State that played a couple games in '07 and was more raw than Gianna Michaels on a Saturday night.
    The intelligent decision, which I wanted to see happen, was to bring in another vet to replace Johnson. Most notably Jeff Garcia.

    But I was in the minority here. The majority of the PP.O fan base said Johnson would be fine & "he had a ring".

    They were wrong. Mobility was an issue as well, as our o-line in 2006 was one of the worst in the NFL

    There was a glut of QB's available in FA & we could have easily found an upgrade that would have given us the 2 years we needed to bring Jackson along. One only needed to look at the record of the teams Johnson won & the teams that he lost to & surmise he didn't have what it took to start.

    2006 FA QB's;

    QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
    QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
    QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
    QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
    QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
    QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
    QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
    QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
    QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
    QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
    QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
    QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
    QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
    QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
    QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
    QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
    QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
    QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
    QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
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    QB Tommy Maddox UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
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    QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
    QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
    QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
    QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
    QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    Problem was at that time, most of us thought that he could perform at the same level he did the year before when he came if to spell Pepp.

    Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
    Not only were his skills on the down hill side when we brought him in again, they quickly deterioated the next year.

    Kindof makes me think of two vets on the current roster that some say need to go but others keep saying will be find next year.... :
    At the time FA hit, I don't think Culpepper was even a viable option. Wasn't it pretty clear by then, Childress didn't want him back & Culpepper didn't want to come back?

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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "bleedpurple" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    It was a reasonable and calculated risk at the time and one of the reasons we are in the QB quandry that we are in.
    Culpepper pscyhoed out and started sending emails to the associated press and they inked TJack.
    BJ had a reasonable season taking over the team after 'small hands' blew out his knee.
    So, they put BJ in as the starter with the idea that TJack would learn on the sidelines.
    When BJ folded and TJack was tossed into the mix his rookie year it was a bad decision to have nothing going in the QB slot going into the '07 season with the likes of Bollinger and Holcomb in the shadows and a never-has-played-any-competition-worth-mentioning rookie QB leading the team with absolutely no competition in the shadows.

    That being said, BJ played wonderfully when asked to take the reigns when Romo hurt his pinky.
    He tossed for 427 yds ant 2 TDs (ignoring that this was in 3 games and he had 5 INTS and 8 sacks and fumbled once).
    no matter how he played the year before, i think it was a drastic mistake going into 2006 with him as our starter.... he's just too old and i doubt he'll be on a roster next year unless it's in a coaching/back up roll....

    his arm is worse than favre's with a banged up shoulder!!..
    In retrospect it was a bad decision.
    Given all the needs on the team at the time and the Daunte psychopath ordeal it was a reasonable decision.
    Going into '07 having TJack as the starter was a much more irrational decision.
    A guy from Alabama State that played a couple games in '07 and was more raw than Gianna Michaels on a Saturday night.
    The intelligent decision, which I wanted to see happen, was to bring in another vet to replace Johnson. Most notably Jeff Garcia.

    But I was in the minority here. The majority of the PP.O fan base said Johnson would be fine & "he had a ring".

    They were wrong. Mobility was an issue as well, as our o-line in 2006 was one of the worst in the NFL

    There was a glut of QB's available in FA & we could have easily found an upgrade that would have given us the 2 years we needed to bring Jackson along. One only needed to look at the record of the teams Johnson won & the teams that he lost to & surmise he didn't have what it took to start.

    2006 FA QB's;

    QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
    QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
    QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
    QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
    QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
    QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
    QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
    QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
    QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
    QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
    QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
    QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
    QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
    QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
    QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
    QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
    QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
    QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
    QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
    QB Shaun Hill Signed Minnesota Vikings San Francisco 49ers
    QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
    QB Doug Johnson Signed Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Rob Johnson Signed Free Agent New York Giants
    QB James Kilian UFA (Cut) Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
    QB Shaun King UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB Jon Kitna Signed Cincinnati Bengals Detroit Lions
    QB Tommy Maddox UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Jamie Martin Signed St. Louis Rams New Orleans Saints
    QB Shane Matthews UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Josh McCown Signed Arizona Cardinals Detroit Lions
    QB Mike McMahon UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Jim Miller Signed New York Giants Retired
    QB Craig Nall Signed Green Bay Packers Buffalo Bills
    QB Jeff Otis Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Jesse Palmer Signed San Francisco 49ers CFL
    QB Preston Parsons Signed Houston Texans Denver Broncos
    QB Mike Quinn Signed Free Agent CFL
    QB Dave Ragone Signed Houston Texans Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Bryan Randall Signed Free Agent Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Reggie Robertson Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Sage Rosenfels Signed Miami Dolphins Houston Texans
    QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
    QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
    QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
    QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
    QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    Problem was at that time, most of us thought that he could perform at the same level he did the year before when he came if to spell Pepp.

    Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
    Not only were his skills on the down hill side when we brought him in again, they quickly deterioated the next year.

    Kindof makes me think of two vets on the current roster that some say need to go but others keep saying will be find next year.... :
    He did.

    Lest you remember the team started out 4-2 and beat good teams like Washington and Carolina to start the year.

    It took a while for the KAO to really start screwing up the team. But once it got a choke hold on the offense we finally got to see it and Childress's coaching prowress in all of it's glory when Belichick came in and showed him how coaching is done.

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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    At the time FA hit, I don't think Culpepper was even a viable option. Wasn't it pretty clear by then, Childress didn't want him back & Culpepper didn't want to come back?
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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    [quote author=Prophet link=topic=50247.msg900944#msg900944 date=1232719777]
    It was a reasonable and calculated risk at the time and one of the reasons we are in the QB quandry that we are in.
    Culpepper pscyhoed out and started sending emails to the associated press and they inked TJack.
    BJ had a reasonable season taking over the team after 'small hands' blew out his knee.
    So, they put BJ in as the starter with the idea that TJack would learn on the sidelines.
    When BJ folded and TJack was tossed into the mix his rookie year it was a bad decision to have nothing going in the QB slot going into the '07 season with the likes of Bollinger and Holcomb in the shadows and a never-has-played-any-competition-worth-mentioning rookie QB leading the team with absolutely no competition in the shadows.

    That being said, BJ played wonderfully when asked to take the reigns when Romo hurt his pinky.
    He tossed for 427 yds ant 2 TDs (ignoring that this was in 3 games and he had 5 INTS and 8 sacks and fumbled once).
    no matter how he played the year before, i think it was a drastic mistake going into 2006 with him as our starter.... he's just too old and i doubt he'll be on a roster next year unless it's in a coaching/back up roll....

    his arm is worse than favre's with a banged up shoulder!!..
    In retrospect it was a bad decision.
    Given all the needs on the team at the time and the Daunte psychopath ordeal it was a reasonable decision.
    Going into '07 having TJack as the starter was a much more irrational decision.
    A guy from Alabama State that played a couple games in '07 and was more raw than Gianna Michaels on a Saturday night.
    The intelligent decision, which I wanted to see happen, was to bring in another vet to replace Johnson. Most notably Jeff Garcia.

    But I was in the minority here. The majority of the PP.O fan base said Johnson would be fine & "he had a ring".

    They were wrong. Mobility was an issue as well, as our o-line in 2006 was one of the worst in the NFL

    There was a glut of QB's available in FA & we could have easily found an upgrade that would have given us the 2 years we needed to bring Jackson along. One only needed to look at the record of the teams Johnson won & the teams that he lost to & surmise he didn't have what it took to start.

    2006 FA QB's;

    QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
    QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
    QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
    QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
    QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
    QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
    QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
    QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
    QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
    QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
    QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
    QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
    QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
    QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
    QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
    QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
    QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
    QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
    QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
    QB Shaun Hill Signed Minnesota Vikings San Francisco 49ers
    QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
    QB Doug Johnson Signed Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Rob Johnson Signed Free Agent New York Giants
    QB James Kilian UFA (Cut) Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
    QB Shaun King UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB Jon Kitna Signed Cincinnati Bengals Detroit Lions
    QB Tommy Maddox UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Jamie Martin Signed St. Louis Rams New Orleans Saints
    QB Shane Matthews UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Josh McCown Signed Arizona Cardinals Detroit Lions
    QB Mike McMahon UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Jim Miller Signed New York Giants Retired
    QB Craig Nall Signed Green Bay Packers Buffalo Bills
    QB Jeff Otis Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Jesse Palmer Signed San Francisco 49ers CFL
    QB Preston Parsons Signed Houston Texans Denver Broncos
    QB Mike Quinn Signed Free Agent CFL
    QB Dave Ragone Signed Houston Texans Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Bryan Randall Signed Free Agent Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Reggie Robertson Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Sage Rosenfels Signed Miami Dolphins Houston Texans
    QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
    QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
    QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
    QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
    QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    Problem was at that time, most of us thought that he could perform at the same level he did the year before when he came if to spell Pepp.

    Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
    Not only were his skills on the down hill side when we brought him in again, they quickly deterioated the next year.

    Kindof makes me think of two vets on the current roster that some say need to go but others keep saying will be find next year.... :
    At the time FA hit, I don't think Culpepper was even a viable option. Wasn't it pretty clear by then, Childress didn't want him back & Culpepper didn't want to come back?
    [/quote]
    The timing in my mind tracks that way.
    My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    The timing in my mind tracks that way.
    My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
    With what was happening with his contract talks & the fact that he suffered, IMO, what was a career ending injury (at least in a starting role) & probably wouldn't be ready for season opener, he was already thinking of who his starter should be.

    Trade talks didn't become public until mid-February, so it's a safe bet they were discussing it way before that.

    They too probably felt that BJ had another year in him, but instead of looking at the lackluster teams that BJ won against, they threw their eggs in one basket & being the *cough* guru that he is, hoped to get someone in the draft for the 2007 season.


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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
    Lol

    If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.


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    until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
    Lol

    If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.
    Marrdro is interweaving his dreams into what he thinks Childress' thoughts were.

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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
    Lol

    If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

    How in the hell did you get that out of my post?
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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
    Lol

    If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

    How in the hell did you get that out of my post?
    How did I get that you reached a point in your theorizing on the 2006 draft where you have finally convinced yourself that they were planning on having cutler on the roster before the draft even began?

    I'm not sure..


    Quote from: Marrdro on Yesterday at 08:49:05 AM The timing in my mind tracks that way.
    My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude...... Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

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    Re: Bring back Johnson?

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    until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude......Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?

    I think the difference between Pepp/Lord Dickhead was the prime reason the Chiller liked the situation and opted to take the job instead of going to GB and at least interviewing there.
    Lol

    If he made that reach in planning on Cutler before the draft even happened and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.

    How in the hell did you get that out of my post?
    How did I get that you reached a point in your theorizing on the 2006 draft where you have finally convinced yourself that they were planning on having cutler on the roster before the draft even began?

    I'm not sure..


    Quote from: Marrdro on Yesterday at 08:49:05 AM The timing in my mind tracks that way.
    My point is more along the lines of if they thought Johnson could hold down the fort until Cutler got ready.

    Course he couldn't, Culter was to expensive and we are now were we are now because ultimately, Pepp copped an attitude...... Or do you believe the Chiller didn't think Pepp could run his offense?
    OK, that is not how I read your post.....It was the "Threw up the hands" comment that threw me for a loop.

    and then just threw up his hands when it didn't work he is worse off that I ever imagined.
    Quick question, do you think that they don't have a myriad of draft scenario's worked up in the warroom on who they want to take, who they think (other teams) want to take and were they think those cats will go?

    I do, and that is one of the biggest issues I had with Foley.

    He didn't seem to have a clue that the Jets were interested in Clemens, that Griff and Cook would/could have gone later.....

    Again, don't you think that kindof discussions/plans/scenarios are talked about in the halls of Winter Park?
    Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/josdin00/Vikings/Marrdro_sig.jpg

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