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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by "HEY" #1103197
    Jaymar Johnson is "tearing it up" in every training camp. Remind you of someone else? (Troy Williamsson)

    I also remember reports of Troy seeming nervous and off his first couple TCs.

    Jaymar has had a glowing endorsement everywhere. Whe he was working out with Fitz and Cris Carter last year, they both spoke about what talent he had, and how he could likely start on some teams in the league. He got hurt in the preseason, and missed last season, but this season again, more about how much he's working and how good he's looking.

    Ultimately, this year he needs to perform in the regular season, or he's gonna be out, but I see him making the active roster.

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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

    Aromashodu will make the squad. It seems to me to be a virtual lock.

    I think that Berrian, Harvin, Jenkins, Aromashodu and Camarillo are probably pretty close to locks. That leaves Arceneaux and Jaymar battling for the No. 6 spot, if they even carry that many.

    I could see either one of them winning that. I could also see Camarillo maybe getting the ax, but not likely.

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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1103201
    Aromashodu will make the squad. It seems to me to be a virtual lock.

    I think that Berrian, Harvin, Jenkins, Aromashodu and Camarillo are probably pretty close to locks. That leaves Arceneaux and Jaymar battling for the No. 6 spot, if they even carry that many.

    I could see either one of them winning that. I could also see Camarillo maybe getting the ax, but not likely.
    As much as I like Camarillo, I'm not so sure he's a lock with his salary when they can get someone that makes less with the same or better skills.

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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

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    thanks for the warning in the title... I can avoid reading it.

    However, my opinion:

    They stick with 5, they need that 6th roster spot for depth at other positions, whether it's keeping on a ST player, or a DT to fill in for KW when he's suspended.

    1: Harvin
    2: Berrian
    3: Jenkins
    4: Jaymar
    5: Aromashodu

    Reports from camp is Jaymar has just been tearing it up, if he is doing that well, I can't see them cutting him for Arcenaux, who has reportedly looked mediocre.

    Cam has something like a 2 mil cap hit, I can see him being a late cut. They're not going to sign Jenkins and Aromashodu only to cut them unless they REALLY show they're not up to the job.

    Other alternatives are Stephen Burton, who has a case of the dropsies, and has reportedly just looked all-around poor during camp.

    they might try to sneak a guy like Arcenaux onto PS, but good chance he might get scooped up. Jaymar won't make it again (not sure he's eligible anymore anyway), he'd get picked up off waivers.

    if you include former wideout, and current quarterback, Joe Webb.
    reason I really don't like BR. Webb was drafted as a WR, but in college he was primarily a QB, who played some reps at WR (rather mediocrely I might add) He was immediately moved back to QB (his actual position).
    I think if you go back and read a couple of the "Camp" articles as well as this one, you will see that Aromashodu is looking like camp fodder.
    why? Because Aromashodu hasn't caught a ball yet?

    Hmm... strange... it's almost as if vets with new contracts haven't been allowed to practice until this afternoon at 4.

    Well no wonder I haven't heard much about him then.
    Has nothing to do with what he has done or hasn't done. Again, read the articles.
    Link me.

    I'm willing to be it's an article from some writer who really is basing it off nothing except for the fact that he didn't have 200 yards last season.

    I'm not saying he's a lock to make it, but the kid has some skill, and the "articles say" the reason he didn't play alot was because he made it into Lovie's doghouse. If he comes and absolutely stinks it up, then cut him. If he comes and looks liek a viable #4 receiver, there's no reason to cut him over a guy like Arceneaux, who hasn't looked that good himself.
    I told you what thread to look in.

    By the way, those same articles say Arceneaux is looking pretty good.

    Again, its their opinion. Nothing more nothing less. I'm just saying that those comments are out there.
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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

    I thought the link was pretty useful. A good, quick introduction to each of the wide receivers in slideshow format.

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103162
    if you include former wideout, and current quarterback, Joe Webb.
    reason I really don't like BR. Webb was drafted as a WR, but in college he was primarily a QB, who played some reps at WR (rather mediocrely I might add) He was immediately moved back to QB (his actual position).
    I'm curious if there are any particular reasons why you refer to Webb's stint at WR as mediocre? Just the fact that he did it for one year and his stats were not very good? Is there video or reports out there that say he wasn't good, had a bunch of drops, or anything along those lines?

    His stats for that season are nothing special, for sure. But based on what I've seen that team was trying to get him and their senior quarterback on the field. That guy was nowhere near as effective as Webb at QB and my uninformed take is that starting him over Webb at QB was a mistake. But I'd be interested to know if there were reports that Webb struggled in any way versus they didn't have a good offense/quarterback to get him the ball a lot.
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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

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    I thought the link was pretty useful. A good, quick introduction to each of the wide receivers in slideshow format.

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103162
    if you include former wideout, and current quarterback, Joe Webb.
    reason I really don't like BR. Webb was drafted as a WR, but in college he was primarily a QB, who played some reps at WR (rather mediocrely I might add) He was immediately moved back to QB (his actual position).
    I'm curious if there are any particular reasons why you refer to Webb's stint at WR as mediocre? Just the fact that he did it for one year and his stats were not very good? Is there video or reports out there that say he wasn't good, had a bunch of drops, or anything along those lines?
    Statistics. He played, but he didn't get many balls, didn't get a whole lot of yards, and didn't get many TD's.

    had a total of 32 receptions, 471 yards and 4 tds.

    to compare, passing he had 468/792 5771 yds, 24 td, 38 int

    516 rush, 2774 yards, 24 tds.

    he simply wasn't really used as a receiver much in college, he wasn't used as a receiver in the pros, I don't get why people think he's a converted receiver.

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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Overlord" #1103227
    I'm curious if there are any particular reasons why you refer to Webb's stint at WR as mediocre?
    Statistics. He played, but he didn't get many balls, didn't get a whole lot of yards, and didn't get many TD's.

    had a total of 32 receptions, 471 yards and 4 tds.

    to compare, passing he had 468/792 5771 yds, 24 td, 38 int

    516 rush, 2774 yards, 24 tds.

    he simply wasn't really used as a receiver much in college, he wasn't used as a receiver in the pros, I don't get why people think he's a converted receiver.
    Yeah, I hear you. They aren't amazing stats, that's for darn sure. I think I'd still like to see him at WR.

    I don't think he has a future at QB after watching him last year because he didn't seem to have any accuracy on his deep ball. He's a reasonable choice as a backup because his athleticism can cause problems for defenses and move the chains, but I don't think he is a real long-term answer.

    At WR he doesn't have the experience, but I'm not sure he has anything that is going to prevent him from being a player the way his (lack of) deep accuracy will as a quarterback. Certainly he has all the athletic tools in terms of size, speed, and jumping ability. Didn't he do a good job at WR at the Senior Bowl or something?

    As for the stats, there is no way to make his WR stats look really good. But here are the team stats for that year (link). The other QB was terrible. Webb made about 1/4 of the throws at QB. And he ran the ball quite a few (66) times, possibly as a QB or possibly out of the backfield (I don't know). So maybe he didn't get as many opportunities to put up good numbers.

    But if coaches or others think he can be a good QB, that is the more valuable position.
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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

    Quote Originally Posted by "HEY" #1103197
    Jaymar Johnson is "tearing it up" in every training camp. Remind you of someone else? (Troy Williamsson)

    Or more recently Aundre Allison. I remember watching him in camp and thinking he was going to break out and then having Mayock give the same assessment only to have him do squat during the regular season and get cut.

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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

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    Quote Originally Posted by "HEY" #1103197
    Jaymar Johnson is "tearing it up" in every training camp. Remind you of someone else? (Troy Williamsson)

    Or more recently Aundre Allison. I remember watching him in camp and thinking he was going to break out and then having Mayock give the same assessment only to have him do squat during the regular season and get cut.
    Exactly! It seems like every year we have a receiver who gets lot of praises in training camp, but disappoints when we actually need him to play. I hope Jaymar can turn that trend around this year.

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    Re: Assessing Wide Receiver Situation -Bleacher Report

    I could see us carrying 6 wrs this year. Face it 2 of the ones mentioned as starters have had some time missed concerns. Percy and his migraines. BB and his injuries past 2 yrs.

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