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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

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    Posted on Thu, May. 04, 2006

    [size=18px]Agent: Rookie quarterback popular pick[/size]

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    The agent for newly drafted Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson said two NFL personnel executives told him that they planned to take Jackson early in the third round.

    "After the draft, there were two clubs that expressed disappointment and were mad they didn't get him," Joel Segal said. "They were planning to take (Jackson) very high in the third round, and were lamenting the fact that the Vikings beat them."

    Segal's other clients include Reggie Bush, Michael Vick, Darren Sharper and DeAngelo Hall.

    The Vikings traded their two third-round picks to the Pittsburgh Steelers to get the final pick of the second round. On Saturday, Vikings then-vice president Fran Foley said the team made the move because it didn't want to risk not getting Jackson.

    Vikings minicamp starts May 13.

    — Sean Jensen

    Briefly: The San Francisco 49ers signed unrestricted free agent safety Chad Williams. Williams played for four years with the Baltimore Ravens after being a sixth-round draft pick from Southern Mississippi in 2002. San Francisco coach Mike Nolan coached Williams during his stint as Ravens defensive coordinator

    Agent: Rookie quarterback popular pick



    Wow thats a pretty impressive list right there.Glad we got Jackson, the real S.O.D.!!
    Yeah...well if Segal is SUCH a great agent WHY did he end up costing Reggie Bush the top spot in the draft???

    The dude is just a self-aggrandizing, pompous, lying self-promoter...who just wants to make his client look better than he really is!

    The ONLY proof that I will require is his performance on the field...NOTHING his weenie agent says will make me think differently about this pick UNTIL then!!!
    Wow... :shock: it isn't like this is Rosenhaus we are talking about here. Is there something about Segal you don't like?

    Anyway, it wouldn't shock me if a couple of other clubs had inquired about Jackson. The kid does have some talent.
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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

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    Ummmmm, As Usuall you are wrong. :lol:

    Segal priced Bush too high and the Texans passed. Wanted something like 13% higher guaranteed money than Alex Smith got last year ... and that affects how all the contracts for the draft picks after him are determined. The rest of the owners would not have been happy if that happened and there was no doubt in their minds he would have held out of camp to get that money, which they publicly said they didnt want ... so they passed.
    Alex Smith signed for 49.5 million. Mario Williams signed for 54 million. That is about 10% higher anyway. Even if the 13% thing is true (where did you get the number, anyway?), I doubt the extra 2 mill would have been a deciding factor in the draft.
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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

    I am happier with the Tarvaris Jackson pick every time I read something else about the kid ... still not thrilled with how we went about everything though ... but hope that Jackson is the arm of our future.

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

    well, the spin patrol is out to make everyone feel batter about the pick, that's what they do. I hope he turns out well, but who knows? I will cheer for him, I just don't have much faith in b-rad, so I will probably be his #1 supporter by week 1.

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

    I really do think this guy is gonna be good

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

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    "mnjamie" wrote:
    Ummmmm, As Usuall you are wrong. :lol:

    Segal priced Bush too high and the Texans passed. Wanted something like 13% higher guaranteed money than Alex Smith got last year ... and that affects how all the contracts for the draft picks after him are determined. The rest of the owners would not have been happy if that happened and there was no doubt in their minds he would have held out of camp to get that money, which they publicly said they didnt want ... so they passed.
    Alex Smith signed for 49.5 million. Mario Williams signed for 54 million. That is about 10% higher anyway. Even if the 13% thing is true (where did you get the number, anyway?), I doubt the extra 2 mill would have been a deciding factor in the draft.
    Guaranteed money is what we are talking here, not total contract. Alex Smith got around $22m in guaranteed money last year, putting Segal's asking price around $24.8.

    My biggest thing with Segal is that he is notoriously slow in getting rookie deals signed due to the fact that he waits for the guy drafted ahead and the guy drafted after his clients to be signed. It makes sense, but its kinda weak.

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

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    Posted on Thu, May. 04, 2006

    [size=18px]Agent: Rookie quarterback popular pick[/size]

    Staff and news service reports
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    The agent for newly drafted Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson said two NFL personnel executives told him that they planned to take Jackson early in the third round.

    "After the draft, there were two clubs that expressed disappointment and were mad they didn't get him," Joel Segal said. "They were planning to take (Jackson) very high in the third round, and were lamenting the fact that the Vikings beat them."

    Segal's other clients include Reggie Bush, Michael Vick, Darren Sharper and DeAngelo Hall.

    The Vikings traded their two third-round picks to the Pittsburgh Steelers to get the final pick of the second round. On Saturday, Vikings then-vice president Fran Foley said the team made the move because it didn't want to risk not getting Jackson.

    Vikings minicamp starts May 13.

    — Sean Jensen

    Briefly: The San Francisco 49ers signed unrestricted free agent safety Chad Williams. Williams played for four years with the Baltimore Ravens after being a sixth-round draft pick from Southern Mississippi in 2002. San Francisco coach Mike Nolan coached Williams during his stint as Ravens defensive coordinator

    Agent: Rookie quarterback popular pick



    Wow thats a pretty impressive list right there.Glad we got Jackson, the real S.O.D.!!
    Yeah...well if Segal is SUCH a great agent WHY did he end up costing Reggie Bush the top spot in the draft???

    The dude is just a self-aggrandizing, pompous, lying self-promoter...who just wants to make his client look better than he really is!

    The ONLY proof that I will require is his performance on the field...NOTHING his weenie agent says will make me think differently about this pick UNTIL then!!!


    Umm.. his agent had nothing to do with reggie not getting the first pick in the draft.. I'm pretty it's the teams that draft the players, not the agents. The texans just made a terrible move cuz of financial reasons and whatever other excuses they can make up.

    Ummmmm, As Usuall you are wrong. :lol:

    Segal priced Bush too high and the Texans passed. Wanted something like 13% higher guaranteed money than Alex Smith got last year ... and that affects how all the contracts for the draft picks after him are determined. The rest of the owners would not have been happy if that happened and there was no doubt in their minds he would have held out of camp to get that money, which they publicly said they didnt want ... so they passed.

    As usual I am wrong? Why jump down my throat when you don't even know what I've been saying?

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

    "seaniemck7" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "mnjamie" wrote:
    Ummmmm, As Usuall you are wrong. :lol:

    Segal priced Bush too high and the Texans passed. Wanted something like 13% higher guaranteed money than Alex Smith got last year ... and that affects how all the contracts for the draft picks after him are determined. The rest of the owners would not have been happy if that happened and there was no doubt in their minds he would have held out of camp to get that money, which they publicly said they didnt want ... so they passed.
    Alex Smith signed for 49.5 million. Mario Williams signed for 54 million. That is about 10% higher anyway. Even if the 13% thing is true (where did you get the number, anyway?), I doubt the extra 2 mill would have been a deciding factor in the draft.
    Guaranteed money is what we are talking here, not total contract. Alex Smith got around $22m in guaranteed money last year, putting Segal's asking price around $24.8.

    My biggest thing with Segal is that he is notoriously slow in getting rookie deals signed due to the fact that he waits for the guy drafted ahead and the guy drafted after his clients to be signed. It makes sense, but its kinda weak.
    That will definately annoy me if it slows down TJs signing, but I doubt it will be a problem at the level he was signed. As long as he is in Training Camp and signed by day 1 I am OK.
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
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    Posted on Thu, May. 04, 2006

    [size=18px]Agent: Rookie quarterback popular pick[/size]

    Staff and news service reports
    St. Paul Pioneer Press


    The agent for newly drafted Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson said two NFL personnel executives told him that they planned to take Jackson early in the third round.

    "After the draft, there were two clubs that expressed disappointment and were mad they didn't get him," Joel Segal said. "They were planning to take (Jackson) very high in the third round, and were lamenting the fact that the Vikings beat them."

    Segal's other clients include Reggie Bush, Michael Vick, Darren Sharper and DeAngelo Hall.

    The Vikings traded their two third-round picks to the Pittsburgh Steelers to get the final pick of the second round. On Saturday, Vikings then-vice president Fran Foley said the team made the move because it didn't want to risk not getting Jackson.

    Vikings minicamp starts May 13.

    — Sean Jensen

    Briefly: The San Francisco 49ers signed unrestricted free agent safety Chad Williams. Williams played for four years with the Baltimore Ravens after being a sixth-round draft pick from Southern Mississippi in 2002. San Francisco coach Mike Nolan coached Williams during his stint as Ravens defensive coordinator

    Agent: Rookie quarterback popular pick



    Wow thats a pretty impressive list right there.Glad we got Jackson, the real S.O.D.!!
    Yeah...well if Segal is SUCH a great agent WHY did he end up costing Reggie Bush the top spot in the draft???

    The dude is just a self-aggrandizing, pompous, lying self-promoter...who just wants to make his client look better than he really is!

    The ONLY proof that I will require is his performance on the field...NOTHING his weenie agent says will make me think differently about this pick UNTIL then!!!
    Wow... :shock: it isn't like this is Rosenhaus we are talking about here. Is there something about Segal you don't like?

    Anyway, it wouldn't shock me if a couple of other clubs had inquired about Jackson. The kid does have some talent.
    Yeah...there IS something that I don't like about Segal...he flubbed the deal with Houston and there are fears that he will engineer an extended holdout of Bush with the Saints in order to extort more money from them than Mario Williams got in order to cover up for his first flub. NOT COOL!!!
    BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE

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    Re: Agent: Tarvaris Jackson popular pick

    I hope he pans out..

    But as of right now...who knows.

    Who here is a Alabama State football fan??

    Anyone, anyone ??

    So let's be honest, we REALLY don't know anything about him.

    Like I said...I hope he pans out. Let's all be positive.
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