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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "threepete21" wrote:
    If Arizona cans Denny, we should try and trade for Larry Fitzgerald.
    I'd give up thye 7th pick and Smoot for L.F.
    Bring him back home
    If Arizona cans Denny, we should sign him as our OC. He won't be much, but as long he would call the plays, our offense wouldn't flatline week in and week out.

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    Our pass rush will be bolstered when Erasmus James gets back.
    Right now opposing teams double team Udeze almost every time because there is no rush on the other side.
    Umm, they say the same thing about Kevin Williams and Pat Williams. How many players are we playing against?

    I think that it's safe to say the Udeze is a bust.

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    Our pass rush will be bolstered when Erasmus James gets back.
    Right now opposing teams double team Udeze almost every time because there is no rush on the other side.
    Umm, they say the same thing about Kevin Williams and Pat Williams. How many players are we playing against?

    I think that it's safe to say the Udeze is a bust.
    Pat Williams rarely gets doubled.
    He gets penetration, but isn't fast enough to get to the QB.
    Kevin Williams usually pulls the double on the line, and the running back adds the double to Udeze (or blocks initially and then breaks off into a flat route).

    Kevin Williams and Udeze are almost always facing two guys each.
    Throw James back into the equation, and you can no longer use the running back to block on the strong side without leaving your weak one on one with James.
    It makes a difference...
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

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    Yeah. There's no reason why we should draft defensively if we keep that pick. Either go with a WR, TE, or OL.
    How can you say that there is no reason to draft defensively when we have the 32nd (AKA last) ranked pass defense? DE is definatly a VERY big need.

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "vikings11_27" wrote:
    "arrested_developer" wrote:
    Yeah. There's no reason why we should draft defensively if we keep that pick. Either go with a WR, TE, or OL.
    How can you say that there is no reason to draft defensively when we have the 32nd (AKA last) ranked pass defense? DE is definatly a VERY big need.
    I agree that DE is a need because we've proven that we have no depth at that position this year.
    But I don't think we would use the 1st round pick on it.
    On that same note, I am personally against drafting a WR in the first round.
    I still say we need to address WR in the FA or trades, not in the draft.

    OL and TE are possible.
    I think both Wiggy and the Sauce are on their way out.
    Both are great players, but neither fits Childress's game scheme very well.
    Childress will be looking for a TE that can stretch the field a little more.
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    What happens if Green Bay beats Chicago? Does it change at all?

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    Our pass rush will be bolstered when Erasmus James gets back.
    Right now opposing teams double team Udeze almost every time because there is no rush on the other side.
    Umm, they say the same thing about Kevin Williams and Pat Williams. How many players are we playing against?

    I think that it's safe to say the Udeze is a bust.
    Pat Williams rarely gets doubled.
    He gets penetration, but isn't fast enough to get to the QB.
    Kevin Williams usually pulls the double on the line, and the running back adds the double to Udeze (or blocks initially and then breaks off into a flat route).

    Kevin Williams and Udeze are almost always facing two guys each.
    Throw James back into the equation, and you can no longer use the running back to block on the strong side without leaving your weak one on one with James.
    It makes a difference...
    Are you telling me that it can't be done? LOL. If we keep Udeze we need a designated pass rusher. Like we had with Lance Johnstone. He'd come in only on 3rd and longs, and in 2003 and 2004 he had double digit sacks and double digit QB hurries.

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "Ltrey" wrote:
    What happens if Green Bay beats Chicago? Does it change at all?
    It doesn't change our pick at all, but there would be some movement in the mid levels.
    Obviously Green Bay would be 8-8, and that would drop them quite a bit.
    And a couple of other team's strength of schedule would be affected too.
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:

    Are you telling me that it can't be done? LOL. If we keep Udeze we need a designated pass rusher. Like we had with Lance Johnstone. He'd come in only on 3rd and longs, and in 2003 and 2004 he had double digit sacks and double digit QB hurries.
    Not at all.
    In fact, in another post I said that I see DE as a need, just not a first round need IMHO.
    I was just pointing out that calling Udeze a bust is a bit of a stretch.
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: And with the 7th pick of the 2007 draft, the Minnesota Vikings pick...

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "PurplePackerEater" wrote:

    Are you telling me that it can't be done? LOL. If we keep Udeze we need a designated pass rusher. Like we had with Lance Johnstone. He'd come in only on 3rd and longs, and in 2003 and 2004 he had double digit sacks and double digit QB hurries.
    Not at all.
    In fact, in another post I said that I see DE as a need, just not a first round need IMHO.
    I was just pointing out that calling Udeze a bust is a bit of a stretch.
    I agree, not a first rounder. Unless there were a Julius Peppers clone in the mix.

    I'm beginning to consider him a bust mostly due to the way Childress has used him. Like I said above, a designated pass rusher is an option that I can't believe Childress hasn't explored.

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