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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    I would probably debate the Center, but, the guy is right in that "the lines define this team..."
    Personally, I will be surprised if the Vikes don't go OL in their first 3 picks too.
    Otherwise, I think the guy's projections are pretty solid.
    Can definitely see the first 3 picks just like that...although, I think Bowman may possibly be gone...if so, I see the Vikes going TE.
    Obviously, these picks depend largely on what action the Vikes take in FA.


    I'm sold on Phillips, however, if the Vikes do not pick up Berrian, Hackett, Johnson, or Wilford, I definitely see them going WR in the first 2 RDs.
    If so, I like, Sweed alot...a man among boys in the Big 12, I also like Doucet, see Mayock's analysis on NFL Network.
    It is entirely possible that the Vikes take a pass on FA WR given the fact that it is arguably the strongest position in the Draft...it's conceiveable that the top 15 could be starting within a couple of years.

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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    Im likin' this draft

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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

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    by Gregory Cox
    Director of College Football and NFL Analysis

    I have been asked what the fascination is with NFL mock drafts. For me it is pretty simple. Everyone has hope for the following season when their team can make a run. Top to bottom each city can look for something positive in a mock draft. Last year the Giants were 8-8, now they are Super Bowl champions. Fans of Houston, Philadelphia, Minnesota, and Arizona (all 8-8 this year) or even Denver, Cincinnati, Detroit, Chicago, Carolina and New Orleans (7-9) have visions of a similar run.
    For all you draftnicks out there, this guy usually does a pretty good job not only picking actual players but he also has some pretty good points when it comes to why teams pick the way they do.

    17) Minnesota – S Kenny Phillips (Miami, FL)
    47) Minnesota – DE Chris Ellis (Virginia Tech)
    73) Minnesota (via Denver) – WR Adarius Bowman (Oklahoma State)
    82) Minnesota – C Steve Justice (Wake Forest)
    113) Minnesota – QB Erik Ainge (Tennessee)

    Needless to say I really like his stuff even though I depart from his selections after Ellis
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    Take some time and read his comments on all the teams.
    Again, he always does a great job explaining things.

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    If we get Justin Smith and A true #1 WR I like this draft!

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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    "kevoncox" wrote:
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    "ajoyce" wrote:
    I would love to see Phillips there at 17 but I don't see it happening.
    Also, Bowman will be gone by the third round.
    Would love to see this senario happen though.
    Did you read his comments to see why Phillips slid to 17 and why Bowman gets into the 3rd round?

    I have followed this guy for a few years.

    He is pretty gol 'darnit accurate and has some pretty good insight into what the each of the teams are gonna do at thier picks.

    Again, it is a long read, but if you follow his comments for each team it makes sense.
    I think Denver takes him @ 12. Lynch is getting old fast.
    We would then have to hope to get him after Det, and Arz gets done...

    I will still take Sweed over Phillips.
    1 can contribute while the other will probally be riding the pin for a season or 2.
    Maybe we get rid of Smith after next but 08 will show phillps very little playing time.
    OK, I give up, I lost ya.
    The focus of the post wasn't to argue who would go were but to show you how a analyst breaks down team needs.

    Because I lost you, I will talk positions with ya.

    As to Phillips, he has slipped on most boards and Rogera-Comartie is ahead of him on the value charts.

    Why would Denver pass on the top rated S and take the second best S?

    Why would you take a WR over a S in a draft deep at WR and only having 3 decent S in it when one of the positions on your team needs 2 S's?

    If you want to cheer for a team that drafts WR's every year in the draft then you should go take a look at the Lions.
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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    "Potus2028" wrote:
    why does he have us taking a qb?

    that would be insane to even draft a qb.. thats just what we dont need.. another unproven qb in minnesota.

    urg. we've got back ups, and another qb in the mix, in the later rounds none the less would be a waste of a pick
    I actually agree with they when it comes to drafting a QB this year, remember they did it last year as well, as it is a position that needs to be addressed more than any on the team.
    I just don't agree with how high they are taking one.

    Look at it this way, they draft a guy this year, it takes him 3 years to learn the system/get NFL ready.
    By that time TJ has 6 years under Center and might or might not be gone due to injury or wanting a huge deal the staff doesn't want to pay.

    Long story short, you have to grow a QB.

    That takes time.
    And it sucks to grow one on the field as consistency sucks doing it.
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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    "MaxVike" wrote:
    I would probably debate the Center, but, the guy is right in that "the lines define this team..."
    Personally, I will be surprised if the Vikes don't go OL in their first 3 picks too.
    Otherwise, I think the guy's projections are pretty solid.
    Can definitely see the first 3 picks just like that...although, I think Bowman may possibly be gone...if so, I see the Vikes going TE.
    Obviously, these picks depend largely on what action the Vikes take in FA.


    I'm sold on Phillips, however, if the Vikes do not pick up Berrian, Hackett, Johnson, or Wilford, I definitely see them going WR in the first 2 RDs.
    If so, I like, Sweed alot...a man among boys in the Big 12, I also like Doucet, see Mayock's analysis on NFL Network.
    It is entirely possible that the Vikes take a pass on FA WR given the fact that it is arguably the strongest position in the Draft...it's conceiveable that the top 15 could be starting within a couple of years.
    I've followed his stuff for a few years.


    He always has very sound logic behind each of his picks (actual team needs) and although I see some of the team needs differently as he does, I tend to agree with him on most instances as I think he a BIT more insight than I especially when it comes to the rookies and how they are falling/rising on the value boards.

    Phillips for example, most mocks started out with him at the top, and now he is the second and possibly slipping to the 3rd best S on most value boards.

    Again, this post wasn't to actually agree or disgree with him but rather to show the process/rationale he lays out with each pick.
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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    I really dont like Bowman and Ainge, neither do i think that we will pick a center that early.

    Ellis is a good pick and Phillips would be more than fine with me.


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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    "skum" wrote:
    I really dont like Bowman and Ainge, neither do i think that we will pick a center that early.

    Ellis is a good pick and Phillips would be more than fine with me.
    I actually like both of them when I studied the scouting reports on them.

    Bowman was considered a "Rising Stock" until he dropped a few in the SB and Ainge has some issues with his ability to throw on the move but I think if they slip out of the first day they are excellent picks.

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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    I honestly think at drafting Ainge would be a waste, i think he has no upside at all.

    He has had the chances to show that he could be a great quarterback in Tenn's system, however he hasnt done it.

    He also has a knack for throwing of his back foot when he is rushed and he had 51! balls deflected in 2007 because of the way he throws the ball.

    I wouldnt be surprised to see Eric Ainge still availible in the 5-6th round. He has so many "scares" that will make NFL teams run away.

    You could make a case for Bowman in the 4th round, but i would like to see us pick up a reciever before that.

    Struggled trying to locate the deep throws earlier in his career and it was discovered that he had 20/900 vision. He underwent lasik surgery in April 2007 to correct the problem, but still failed to get to 30 passes as a senior (had 108 passes targeted to him, catching 67, as he had 11 others deflected)

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    Re: 2008 NFL Mock Draft - 4 Rounds

    "skum" wrote:
    I honestly think at drafting Ainge would be a waste, i think he has no upside at all.

    He has had the chances to show that he could be a great quarterback in Tenn's system, however he hasnt done it.

    He also has a knack for throwing of his back foot when he is rushed and he had 51! balls deflected in 2007 because of the way he throws the ball.

    I wouldnt be surprised to see Eric Ainge still availible in the 5-6th round. He has so many "scares" that will make NFL teams run away.

    You could make a case for Bowman in the 4th round, but i would like to see us pick up a reciever before that.

    Struggled trying to locate the deep throws earlier in his career and it was discovered that he had 20/900 vision. He underwent lasik surgery in April 2007 to correct the problem, but still failed to get to 30 passes as a senior (had 108 passes targeted to him, catching 67, as he had 11 others deflected)

    - Sound familiar?.. Hello Mr. Williamson II :>
    I hear ya my freind.

    Sounds like you've seen him play.
    I haven't.
    All I have to go off of is what I read.
    I will defer to your first hand knowledge.
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