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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    If all of the good WR's in the FA get snatched up I think we HAVE to take a look at Fitzgerald

    I would be thrilled

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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    My spread sheet didnt cut over to well however here is a look at who I think needs to go and who should stay.

    NAME







    POS
    EXP





    Notes/Remarks













    Recommendation
    Offense
    Brooks Bollinger QB

    5 Can run system.
    Use spot for Rookie Drop
    Kelly Holcomb QB

    11 To old.
    Use roster spot for another Vet Drop
    Tarvaris Jackson QB

    2 One more year.















    Retain
    Mewelde Moore RB

    4 Blocking still seems to be detractor Drop
    Adrian Peterson RB

    R Nuff said























    Retain
    Tony Richardson RB

    13 Need to draft a FB as his succesor Retain
    Chester Taylor RB

    6 Nuff said























    Retain
    Naufahu Tahi FB

    2 To much flexibility to let go.
    Next year will shine.

    Retain
    Aundrae Allison WR
    R Should come into his own next year Retain
    Robert Ferguson WR
    7 Good vet.
    If something better comes along drop Retain/Drop If Roster spot needed
    Sidney Rice WR

    R Should come into his own next year Retain
    Bobby Wade WR

    5 Fills his role well.
    Good fit for scheme Retain
    Troy Williamson WR

    3 If something better comes along drop Retain/Drop If Roster spot needed


    Jeff Dugan








    TE

    4 Not sure on him.
    Good blocker and can catch Retain
    Jim Kleinsasser TE

    9 Key to our running game.







    Retain
    Garrett Mills TE

    2 Special teams production.
    Might be a fit if we can pass Retain/Drop If Roster spot needed
    Visanthe Shiancoe TE

    5 Should come into his own next year Retain
    Matt Birk








    C

    10

    QB of the OL.
    Next year will be stellar. Target C in draft Retain
    Ryan Cook








    OT
    2 He should blossom next year



    Retain
    Cullen Loeffler C

    4 Important role.
    Almost flawless job this year. Retain
    Anthony Herrera G

    4 He should blossom next year











    Retain
    Artis Hicks








    G

    6 Depth only.
    Target G/T in draft.




    Drop/Draft replacement
    Steve Hutchinson G

    7 Nuff said Retain
    Marcus Johnson OL

    3 Depth only.
    Target G/T in draft.




    Drop/Draft replacement
    Chase Johnson OT

    R Lets see what he brings next year. Retain
    Bryant McKinnie OT

    6 Lets hope his issues are resolved during the off season Retain
    Defense
    Otis Grigsby DE

    2 I like this guy.
    Instant production with little time on squad Retain/Drop If Roster spot needed
    Erasmus James DE

    3 Injury concerns justify dropping and drafting a DE Drop
    Jayme Mitchell DE

    2 Should blossom next year.
    Got rotation guy







    Retain
    Brian Robison DE

    R Should blossom next year.
    Possible RDE starter Retain
    Darrion Scott DE

    4 Can't be relied on.
    Use the spot for another rookie/vet Drop
    Kenechi Udeze DE

    4 Plays both ends. Team guy. Will continue to get better Retain
    Fred Evans







    DT

    2 Possibly on the team as Phat Pats replacement Retain
    Spencer Johnson DT

    4 Good rotation guy























    Retain
    Kevin Williams DL

    5 Next year will be his best year if RDE is improved. Retain
    Pat Williams DL

    11 Getting long in the tooth.
    Need to look for replacement Retain
    Rufus Alexander LB

    R Comeback kid maybe?















    Retain
    Vinny Ciurciu LB

    5 Good depth special teams guy















    Retain
    Heath Farwell LB

    3 Good depth special teams guy















    Retain
    Chad Greenway LB

    2 Next year he will come into his own







    Retain
    E.J. Henderson LB

    5 Next year he will even be better.















    Retain
    David Herron Jr. LB

    R Special teams meat.
    Lets see how he develops






    Retain
    Ben Leber







    LB

    6 Next year he will even be better.















    Retain
    Dontarrious Thomas LB

    4 Knows the system however, could be replaced by a FA Vet Retain/Drop If Roster spot needed
    Charles Gordon CB

    2 Will come into his own next year













    Retain
    Cedric Griffin CB

    2 Will come into his own next year













    Retain
    Marcus McCauley CB

    R Will come into his own next year













    Retain
    Ronyell Whitaker CB

    2 Special teams. Use spot for Vet to compliment other CB's. Retain/Drop If Roster spot needed
    Antoine Winfield CB

    9 Need another Vet on the roster for depth.






    Retain
    Michael Doss S


    5 Uncommitted on this guy.

















    Retain/Drop
    Eric Frampton S

    R Special teams and possible S. Good depth.








    Retain
    Darren Sharper S

    11 Getting long in the tooth.
    Need to look for replacement Retain
    Dwight Smith S


    7 7 yrs, drug user, good athlete.
    Still gotta go






    Drop
    Tank Williams S


    6 Uncommitted on this guy.
    Keep for depth/vet leadership Retain
    Special Teams
    Ryan Longwell PK

    11 Money man had some woes.
    Need to look for replacement




































    Retain
    Chris Kluwe


    P


    3 Money.






























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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    Agree with all of your "drops" with the possible exception of Erasmus James.
    I'm very mixed on this one.
    He simply can't stay healthy, but, I just think there is so much there...maybe I'm still blind.
    At this point, we are so heavily invested in him that one more year (with ZERO tolerance) might be justified...however, so would dropping him.

    I believe alot of the mocks will zero in on Limas Sweed, 6'4" 217 lbs, WR, Texas, to be the Vikes #1 draft pick.
    I kinda like the pick.
    There is a valid argument not to go here, but, that puts alot of pressure on Allison IMO, also, Sweed is another big target (see Sidney Rice) and an undeniable playmaker.

    However, I could see an O-Lineman (like Jeff Otah, 6'5" 339 lbs, OT, Pittsburgh, or Carl Nicks, 6'5" 345 lbs, OT, Nebraska).
    Nicks is a mauler in the run game, Otah is a little raw still.
    Both are pretty quick and would be potential RT candidates.
    Kinda depends if the master plan is to move Cook back to Center eventually...although, he seems to be really improving his play.
    O-Line depth is clearly an issue, so, this may make alot of sense.

    There are also some decent DE's which will be available at the position we will be drafting.
    For example, Lawrence Jackson, 6'4" 266 lbs, DE, USC or Chris Ellis, 6'4 1/2", DE, Virginia Tech.
    Personally, I'd like to see a high profile, FA DE signing.


    Safety is not an option for the first round, none appear worthy.

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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    "MaxVike" wrote:
    Agree with all of your "drops" with the possible exception of Erasmus James.
    I'm very mixed on this one.
    He simply can't stay healthy, but, I just think there is so much there...maybe I'm still blind.
    At this point, we are so heavily invested in him that one more year (with ZERO tolerance) might be justified...however, so would dropping him.

    I believe alot of the mocks will zero in on Limas Sweed, 6'4" 217 lbs, WR, Texas, to be the Vikes #1 draft pick.
    I kinda like the pick.
    There is a valid argument not to go here, but, that puts alot of pressure on Allison IMO, also, Sweed is another big target (see Sidney Rice) and an undeniable playmaker.

    However, I could see an O-Lineman (like Jeff Otah, 6'5" 339 lbs, OT, Pittsburgh, or Carl Nicks, 6'5" 345 lbs, OT, Nebraska).
    Nicks is a mauler in the run game, Otah is a little raw still.
    Both are pretty quick and would be potential RT candidates.
    Kinda depends if the master plan is to move Cook back to Center eventually...although, he seems to be really improving his play.
    O-Line depth is clearly an issue, so, this may make alot of sense.

    There are also some decent DE's which will be available at the position we will be drafting.
    For example, Lawrence Jackson, 6'4" 266 lbs, DE, USC or Chris Ellis, 6'4 1/2", DE, Virginia Tech.
    Personally, I'd like to see a high profile, FA DE signing.


    Safety is not an option for the first round, none appear worthy.
    Now this is the stuff I wanna see in this thread.
    Great stuff my friend.

    As to Cook.
    I like his progress as well this year and haven't ruled out the fact that he might be our replacement for Birk.
    Only issue I have with that rationale is that he would be a very big C that would kindof inhibit our QB's vision.

    By the way, you are aware that he is following the same growth path of our current C don't you?
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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    As much as everybody gets riled up I thin Dwight Smith will be a Vike next year.

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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    "Schutz" wrote:
    As much as everybody gets riled up I thin Dwight Smith will be a Vike next year.
    He does have the talent.
    I just wonder how this latest incident will be recieved by a staff that doesn't put up with this stuff to well.

    I think I read someplace that the Chiller was waiting to discuss it with him before a decision will be made.
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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Schutz" wrote:
    As much as everybody gets riled up I thin Dwight Smith will be a Vike next year.
    He does have the talent.
    I just wonder how this latest incident will be recieved by a staff that doesn't put up with this stuff to well.

    I think I read someplace that the Chiller was waiting to discuss it with him before a decision will be made.
    Yeah didn't he take the green road too?

    He can go puff that someplace else if I called the shots

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Schutz" wrote:
    As much as everybody gets riled up I thin Dwight Smith will be a Vike next year.
    He does have the talent.
    I just wonder how this latest incident will be recieved by a staff that doesn't put up with this stuff to well.

    I think I read someplace that the Chiller was waiting to discuss it with him before a decision will be made.
    I think it'll be one of those "you do it again your done" talks.
    Look at Sticky Ricky in Miami.
    Unless Smith is a total dick to Childress if they have a talk I don't see him leaving.

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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis


    FA a QB and DE.

    Draft Malcolm Kelly first round (Rice has a bit more speed, but Malcolm's got unbelievable hands to catch Tjack's dirtballs)
    Excellent size, might fall in the draft far enough for Vikes to get b/c of off year.

    Draft a S or DE 2nd round.

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    Re: 2008 NFL Draft - Team Need Analysis

    "cogitans" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Schutz" wrote:
    As much as everybody gets riled up I thin Dwight Smith will be a Vike next year.
    He does have the talent.
    I just wonder how this latest incident will be recieved by a staff that doesn't put up with this stuff to well.

    I think I read someplace that the Chiller was waiting to discuss it with him before a decision will be made.
    Yeah didn't he take the green road too?

    He can go puff that someplace else if I called the shots
    Yah well your not, your sitting on the computer trying to act like a coach when in reality if you put a coach headset on you wouldnt even know what to say. All of you bash Childress, im not gonna lie i dont agree with a lot of the things he does, but he was given a shitty team and he is still working on it. NO ONE on this site could do any better so shut up already!


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